400W, 5 Plants, Indoor, First Grow

Going to the hydro-store in an hour or so, wrote down EVERYTHING you guys had to say and told me to get, going to go through them all and decide.
I woke up this morning, had a yellow sticky trap in the desert dream and one in the master bubba, the one in the desert dream is starting to get coated by little black bugs, master bubbas was clear.
Only found 1 little black bug on the stem of the desert dream, nothing crawling ontop of the perlite on any of the plants.
Desert dream needed watering today, so I mixed 2tbpsoons into about 1 and 1/2 gals of water and some coco-wet, and watered her down good + put more perlite to even it out.
Also got my neem 360degree spray bottle out [boooyaka].
All the plants perlite ontop of the soil got a good covering of this spray, even got all over the sides of the pots and all the little drainage holes in the pot.
I even sprayed my entire tent, all corners, all the floor, the fan, ontop of the light, outside the tent, in my baby veg tent, all over the baby veg tent, and I even went outside with the rest and gave my patio and outside my apartment a good once over. Starting to enjoy the smell of neem.......not.

If it werent for this website and all you guys responding I would of already gotten majorly frustrated and probably given up by now.
Thanks for keepin my head on the right track fellas!

Dubbz0r said:

steeZz, I have gnats also but mine came from the FF OF soil. They've been in my garden since day one. There isn't a good amount of them so I haven't worried much about them. If you have them that would be my guess as to where they came from. No clue about the larvae though.

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The gnats lay the eggs in your soil, then the larvae starts eating your roots, then they turn into gnats again.

Del66666 told me to just put sand ontop of my soil like an inch and put 1tblspn per 2litres of water of neem and some coco-wet and just do a soil drench.
I'm not worried about the gnats, I really don't care about them to be honest.
I'm more worried about the larvae eating my fucking roots and turning into gnats and reproducing and starting the process over.
Perlite ontop of the soil stops them from turning into gnats and flying away and reproducing and shit, hopefully my soil drench will kill the larvae though.

steeZz said:

If it werent for this website and all you guys responding I would of already gotten majorly frustrated and probably given up by now.
Thanks for keepin my head on the right track fellas!

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I feel the exact same way man. My plants would be worm food if it weren't for the peeps that help me out every day.

Edit: whoops, I replied too early lol See I had no idea the gnats were the cause of the larvae. Now that you say that I will give them a closer look tonight. I don't want no flucking larvae on my roots so I may slice up this potato and give it a try. The last thing I want to use is neem oil. I've smelled it... yack.

Dude, if you do use it... don't be an impatient dumbass like me and wear some gloves and a longsleeve shirt you don't want.

If you get this shit on your skin, you're going to smelling it for hours.
Buy a burger, it smells like neem.
Smoke a cigarette, neem.
Eat icecream, neem.
Kiss the wifey, neem.

o.o


-edit, i can no longer eat in and out burgers without smelling neem on them due to the excessive spraying prior to getting food. F$#K.
if you were from california and knew what in and out was, you would probably cry.

steeZz said:

-edit, i can no longer eat in and out burgers without smelling neem on them due to the excessive spraying prior to getting food. F$#K.
if you were from california and knew what in and out was, you would probably cry.

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Thats hilarious.. wait if you ever need to use SERENADE.. makes neem smell like candy!

you would chirp in right when we're vulnerable and depressed and laugh at our anguish.

steeZz said:

If you get this shit on your skin, you're going to smelling it for hours.
Buy a burger, it smells like neem.
Smoke a cigarette, neem.
Eat icecream, neem.
Kiss the wifey, neem.

o.o

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Lmfao... Don't mean to laugh at your misfortune but damn that was funny. Hopefully this grow bumps both of us up to grower status. Being a noob sucks!

Yes i know,the neem-oil smells bad,but he stops larvae when they start eating roots,also somebody said about to make layer from sand or perlite(2,5cm or inch)on top of a soil and it is a very good idea,it will also stop adults and they will not penetrate in soil and their larvae who is already in soil will stand under this layer and die.About potato,i was read that you must use slices of potato on top of a soil(larvae like them)and after few days you replace them with new slices,but if you can find BTI you dont need potato or sand layer.Also you can google and find about predatory nematodes who will kill larvae and they will protect your plants even more than BTI because you dont need so much application.Greets from Mir

nice job, wish i did a eighth as good on my first grow... +rep

steeZz said:

you would chirp in right when we're vulnerable and depressed and laugh at our anguish.

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cmon man .. you should know me well enough by now to know.. that is the only time i come around LOL...

LOL touche alotaball.

and thank you catfish that makes me happy to hear, I figure that I made it further than what I expected, and did well so far, so I'm happy with whatever results come out of this.
No sign of more fungus gnats since the neem drench and perlite ontop of the soil, the four new gnat strips i put in last night are all still clean.

One of my oaksterdam seedlings died :/

steeZz said:

One of my oaksterdam seedlings died :/

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RIP little buddy>.< Hopefull its in Seed heaven with Eyedea ya?? Happy thoughts and all^^

Philosophist said:

RIP little buddy>.< Hopefull its in Seed heaven with Eyedea ya?? Happy thoughts and all^^

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Haha yea.. i just keep telling myself it was a male seed and he did himself to make my job easier.
all other seeds have shed their seed and are little palm trees at the moment. Going to take pictures of the mommas in a second :]

nice grow man! cant wait to see the finished product

New pictures!! Lots of new shit goin on, HOLY SHIT.
Raised my light up, looked like it started to burn the tops of the desert dream just a little bit cause I forgot my carbon filter is stealing CFMs so my light isn't getting as cool as it was, so I brought my light all the way as high as it can get and moved my fan outside my tent... i think i like it better like this.

The master bubba is nuts, biggest bud sites out of all of them, so fucking thick already.
The Northern lights is LITTERED with nugs, EVERYWHERE and all of them are starting to connect. it has the closest nodes out of all my plants.
Desert dream is lookin better, dont see anymore gnats and all of her tops are starting to form huge colas.
hindu kush, nothing new to update. her buds are starting to look dank as shit though, I cut off two of her arms due to some damage, they were the very bottom ones though.
And ever since then, shes been gettin pretty dank.
Redbull, holy shit... I don't think this is redbull anymore guys sorry to say. This plant has like a fucking STRONG ass OG smell to it for some reason and it barely has white hairs.
this plant smells more than the hindu, master bubba, and northern lights put together. Can't wait for it to start budding! Transplanted it aswell to a 3gallon from a 1gallon and got some mycorrhizae in there.

Like I said earlier, I lost one of the oaksterdam seedlings. BUT! The silver skunk and other 2 oaksterdam seedlings are doing just fine.
Only weird thing is, one of the leaves on one of the oaksterdams is like shooting straight down


Desert Dream


Master Bubba And Desert Dream


Master Bubba


Northern Lights


12/12 from seed.

Oaksterdam



Oaksterdam 2 [weird leaf dropping down ]


Silver Skunk

Looking good man. You're one week behind my girls and I wouldn't have guessed it. Your buds actually look a lot bigger than mine...*sad face*

Wow now I feel bad! I'm sure they might LOOK bigger, but probably aren't or are just the same size.

Plus genetics too my friend, I might be ahead in the beginning but yours might take over in the long haul

Looking sweet. So much smoother than my first grow haha.

Try embedding your pics. Most of the time they will show your true resolution. Try using Picasa, it's a google web photo deal like photobucket. IMO it's better than Photobucket though. And you can set it to easily link to your Google+ account.

The bubba looks gorgeous. I'm still on that Northern Lights though.

Steez your bubba is gonna be LOADED .. mark it ! by loaded I dont mean a HUGE yield .. but more importantly .. quality dense nugs.. The bud spacing is so tight in the next month its gonna be SOLID