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GrowKindNugs

GrowKindNugs

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Yeah I love ghetto as long as its functional!!
I may save some of the pollen, good idea, thanks...And the ladies are starting to really explode, i love this time of life during auto's, you just sit back and watch em get bigger each day...well, i'm having the same couple of buddies over again, apparently they scored some really good dank, so i'm gonna check that out, and then i'll be checking out of my mind, hahaha....take care...


gkn
 
simpsonsampson420

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like the DIY shit.. cant go wrong with homemade.. easy to make and easy to fix... very nice bro... sounds like you got it all planned out!!
 
GrowKindNugs

GrowKindNugs

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simpsonsampson420 said:
like the DIY shit.. cant go wrong with homemade.. easy to make and easy to fix... very nice bro... sounds like you got it all planned out!!
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oh yeah man, thanks....i just can't wait to have hundreds of diesel ryder seeds on hand, haha, i'm gonna go wild planting em and giving em to friends to plant everywhere...i'll be back later to tell ya'll how epic the session we had earlier, i can't even think right now, mixing hash and kief and gdp, jesus...:mrgreen:


gkn
 
Floridianpuffnpuff

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GrowKindNugs said:
oh yeah man, thanks....i just can't wait to have hundreds of diesel ryder seeds on hand, haha, i'm gonna go wild planting em and giving em to friends to plant everywhere...i'll be back later to tell ya'll how epic the session we had earlier, i can't even think right now, mixing hash and kief and gdp, jesus...:mrgreen:


gkn
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gotta love gdp! nice updates on the pics brother! looking great. :joint::hump:
 
Heads Up

Heads Up

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Hey HeadsUp thanks for the welcome. I was a little busy yesterday, and missed it. You're getting surprisingly decent results under those T5's. Makes me want to switch out the CFL's in my veg cab lol

The CMH bulbs I'm using are 34,000 lum. - designed to fire in a magnetic HPS fixture only. The spectrum is comparable to the best MH bulb I know of - eye blue, but at half the price...

Lumens that really matter are the lumens in the spectrum that plants can use, all else is wasted heat/energy.

Here is a spectrograph showing the Philips 4k CMH vs normal HPS

I'll also put up the eye blue for comparison





So not only does the CMH have as much blue and UV as the best MH Veg bulb available, but it has more usable red spectrum (for flowering) than a higher lumen 400w HPS bulb.

From CMH results I've seen there is apparently more healthy vegetative growth during the flowering stage, so more leaves to trim at harvest time. I suppose this could be avoided by switching to pure HPS during weeks 3 - 6, and I may try that next run, just for comparison, but I like hash, so none of the trim will go to waste anyhow.

DIY 400W HPS ballast kit $54.95
Old ammo box or metal toolbox (ballast housing) $20
400W CMH full spectrum bulb $65

The rewarding feeling you get from growing your own dank nugs - priceless! :hump:
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Let us know how it turns our for you. To my understanding our plants don't use light in the green spectrum and that bulb has a giant spike in the green, but I do like the red spectrum. Since I haven't used an hid setup, yet, I haven't really researched the spectrums for different mh bulbs but that blue looks weak to my untrained eye. Shouldn't there be a bigger spike around 480 nm?
 
Heads Up

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Well buddy, I broke down and purchased a 600w with a digital ballast and an easy cool6 reflector. Ninety five thousand lumens of pure flower power. I'm feeling almost hippyish.
 
GrowKindNugs

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Heads Up said:
Well buddy, I broke down and purchased a 600w with a digital ballast and an easy cool6 reflector. Ninety five thousand lumens of pure flower power. I'm feeling almost hippyish.
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hahaha, that's awesome man, congrats!! i was reading bout it on the florida thread...i want another light real bad, maybe another 400, 800 total...i hear running both mh and hps is great for plants, get that full spectrum, so i'd do that... :blsmoke:


gkn
 
Heads Up

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GrowKindNugs said:
hahaha, that's awesome man, congrats!! i was reading bout it on the florida thread...i want another light real bad, maybe another 400, 800 total...i hear running both mh and hps is great for plants, get that full spectrum, so i'd do that... :blsmoke:


gkn
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I've also read where two four hundreds puts out more than a thousand watter.

Hope to be growing some serious bud next go around.
 
simpsonsampson420

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GrowKindNugs said:
hahaha, that's awesome man, congrats!! i was reading bout it on the florida thread...i want another light real bad, maybe another 400, 800 total...i hear running both mh and hps is great for plants, get that full spectrum, so i'd do that... :blsmoke:


gkn
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honestly if you get an enhanced spectrum HPS lamp, which really most companies are starting to produce as their standards anyways, you really dont need an MH.. the e.s. hps bulbs have something like 20% more blues in them than the normal hps lamps.. so they work great for both veg and flowering.. if you want to use both you can.. if you get a lumatek digital ballast you only need 1 ballast for both bulbs.. they will run either hps or mh... and they dont get hot at all.. after 7 days my ballast will still be cool to the touch... i have 2x 400s in my veg room along with the other 4 ho floros i have.. gives me like 2500w for veg.. i would recommend just getting the e.s hps tho.. save some money..

Heads Up said:
I've also read where two four hundreds puts out more than a thousand watter.

Hope to be growing some serious bud next go around.
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the highest lumen rating on a 400w hps bulb is 50,000 i can find... a 1000w hps will put off around 150,000.. so it would take 3x 400wrs to equal the lumens of 1x 1000w.. the 400's will cover more area but wont penetrate as far.. it really comes down to application tho.. for instance if you were doing a straight to 12/12 clone sog grow the 400's would work well because you could cover a larger area but wouldnt need as much penetration power.. if you were growing a few large plants, that had a large canopy and a lot of foliage you needed penetrated, you would want the 1000... it also comes down to heat.. if you cant cool the 1000w down enough to keep it close to the canopy then its not worth having.. a 400w hps is better than a 1000w if the 400 is 12" from canopy and the 1000 is 3ft from canopy.. but if you can get that 1000 12 to 18 inches from canopy, which is possible, there is no contest that 1000w will out preform...
 
GrowKindNugs

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awesome, thanks for all the good knowledge!
my hydrofarm 400 is a mh, so the next 400 i get will be a hps forsure...that won't be for a while though, i'm low on funds, maybe after this next harvest, and i'll forsure consult with you guys before i make a purchase...more great news from the garden today, spotted 2 more diesel ryder females, for a grand total of 4 out of 5!! last time i only had 4 out of 10!
so that's really exciting, and i still have 5 that i started late, they'll show sex in a couple weeks...since i have so many ladies i'm gonna use one entirely for seeds instead of just pollenating a branch...it's gonna be awesome...let there be seeds, haha, hopefully like 500 of the bitches...have a great thursday everyone....:peace:


gkn
 
GrowKindNugs

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Mindmelted said:
Thats great news GKN
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thank you sir...this grow is looking like it's gonna be my biggest harvest in a while! let's see here, 5 auto ladies, with 5 that still need to show sex, so hopefully at least 2 more of them will be girls, that'd give me 7...the auto ak should do 2 ozs and then if the rest do an oz a piece that's 8 ozs!! fucking awesome....:mrgreen:
And don't forgot bout all the seeds, it'd be one hell of a success for me...

gkn
 
Heads Up

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I didn't mean you got more light out of two four hundreds than a one thousand. I meant you could produce more bud from two four hundreds than you can a single one thousand. Sorry about the confusion, I didn't make myself clear.
 
Heads Up

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GrowKindNugs said:
thank you sir...this grow is looking like it's gonna be my biggest harvest in a while! let's see here, 5 auto ladies, with 5 that still need to show sex, so hopefully at least 2 more of them will be girls, that'd give me 7...the auto ak should do 2 ozs and then if the rest do an oz a piece that's 8 ozs!! fucking awesome....:mrgreen:
And don't forgot bout all the seeds, it'd be one hell of a success for me...

gkn
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Congrats. I would happily take an eighty percent female ratio any day. Sorry about the no new pics but the camera seems to have disappeared. When it reappears I'll try to grab it before it disappears again and snap a few pics. I fucked up and forgot to delete them off the camera last set I took. Boy was the old lady pissed. I don't know why, everyone here knows I have a grow going in the closet. Must be a woman thing??? I'm really hoping between me and my partner we get at least twelve ounces and hopefully double that. I'm looking forward to some of those seeds.
 
GrowKindNugs

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Heads Up said:
Congrats. I would happily take an eighty percent female ratio any day. Sorry about the no new pics but the camera seems to have disappeared. When it reappears I'll try to grab it before it disappears again and snap a few pics. I fucked up and forgot to delete them off the camera last set I took. Boy was the old lady pissed. I don't know why, everyone here knows I have a grow going in the closet. Must be a woman thing??? I'm really hoping between me and my partner we get at least twelve ounces and hopefully double that. I'm looking forward to some of those seeds.
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yeah, i can't believe i got that high of a ratio with auto's, they tend to have more males...the ladies can be an unruly bunch, hahah, to put it nicely...all those auto seeds will be great...i'm gonna get so many friends to grow their own supply, it really is a beautiful thing...:lol:
 
Heads Up

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GrowKindNugs said:
yeah, i can't believe i got that high of a ratio with auto's, they tend to have more males...the ladies can be an unruly bunch, hahah, to put it nicely...all those auto seeds will be great...i'm gonna get so many friends to grow their own supply, it really is a beautiful thing...:lol:
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Speaking of beauty, on one of the thc bomb buds I painted with pollen, I can see one of the seeds starting to break the seed pod open and it's showing me a very nice what I refer to as a lightning bolt stripe on the seed. I also see that there are other seeds on the bud but none have popped the pod. I'll put these away for my second grow under my new hid setup. I'm going to do a bagseed grow for my first so I can gain some experience. Good growing to all.
 
lrg

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subscribed cant wait to see those girls fill out hope you get a good female ratio
the set up looks very nice man like the whole mh conversion idea as well seems cost effective

but anyways subscribed
good luck:mrgreen:
 
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