5.0 - 5.5 ph could this be the fi answer to my troubles? what would you pH at, with or without nutes

greenfork

New Member
I'm in soil 2/2/1 ratio happy frog, 707roots and perlite. My first indoors in 10 years. They are 26 days old seeds with super cropping done below the node of the 1st set of true leaves. This is kind of a dry run grow but make the most out of it.

In 1 gallon pots I gave them there first watering after transplant a red cup 16 fl oz.

Iguana Juice at 3-4 sets of leaves recommendation
Mendocino Honey at 2/3 dosage
Bud Builder full dosage
A 3.0 Calcium 1.0 Mag supplement, or it's 1-3 at full dosage
After full mix, I had to pH up at 13 ML per 5 gallons of water for a 6.3 - 6.5 phish solution.
Bragging rights my WELL water comes out 6.5-6.8 .

Well after they got there full saturation I leaned them up an hour or so they could drain any excess water. Collected and pH,d and whoa was I growing in hydroponics all the sudden. I believe hydro 5.5, I know Iguana Juice + decent water reads 5.5. Even IJ + other nutes I see 5.5. Anyway Yep out of my soil was 5.5 phish. So it's there first watering after there transplant soak. I wasnt sure should I make another batch of feed now and "flush" in 7.5 phish water or wait until next watering. I went with waiting, while attending to other garden environment issues I was trying to correct. Meanwhile the plan was to maximize light intensity , no forms of stressful training, increase air circulation and increase overall room temperature, while decreasing canopy temp from light, to maximize water uptake and evaporation so I can feed them sooner and correct pH of the soil.

Next feeding is a of a question. What I have hope to figure out is that my PH was low from the start of the garden. If I give them just water at 7.5, my guess is it will not bring up the ph to 6.5, from 5.5 because it's just plain water. Plain water feed pH fluctuates quickly vs a nutrient water feed, from what I understand. If it takes me 13mls or so to fix PH from 5.5 to 6.5 of the Iguana Juice in 5 gallons of water maybe I can assume I will need at least that much if not more to correct the pH of the soil using the same amount of plain water. If I can feed them nutrients maybe that would help stabilize the pH of the water going in and I could feed at say 7.5 and it might bring it up to 6.5 or 6 but like I said before I feel like with plain water I believe I would have to start at a pH of like 8.5 or more. I am not worried about pH stress change as long as I hit 6.5 in my runoff soil the first time.

I don't have experience correctly ph runoff as I usually don't get this problem. So all input is welcome.

My garden is in a rather tight space so far space and light magnification with heat spots seems to be a long battling issue. After putting the plants outside for a day, I immediately decided I needed indirect direct air fan contact on all walls right above the height of the canopy. Low setting, little light jiggle. Keeps the heat spots along stacked layers of light steady. Big difference, got my light closer and my plants look happier. I hope correcting by correcting the soil pH my problems will be over, for now.
 

Bud1284

Active Member
I'm in soil 2/2/1 ratio happy frog, 707roots and perlite. My first indoors in 10 years. They are 26 days old seeds with super cropping done below the node of the 1st set of true leaves. This is kind of a dry run grow but make the most out of it.

In 1 gallon pots I gave them there first watering after transplant a red cup 16 fl oz.

Iguana Juice at 3-4 sets of leaves recommendation
Mendocino Honey at 2/3 dosage
Bud Builder full dosage
A 3.0 Calcium 1.0 Mag supplement, or it's 1-3 at full dosage
After full mix, I had to pH up at 13 ML per 5 gallons of water for a 6.3 - 6.5 phish solution.
Bragging rights my WELL water comes out 6.5-6.8 .

Well after they got there full saturation I leaned them up an hour or so they could drain any excess water. Collected and pH,d and whoa was I growing in hydroponics all the sudden. I believe hydro 5.5, I know Iguana Juice + decent water reads 5.5. Even IJ + other nutes I see 5.5. Anyway Yep out of my soil was 5.5 phish. So it's there first watering after there transplant soak. I wasnt sure should I make another batch of feed now and "flush" in 7.5 phish water or wait until next watering. I went with waiting, while attending to other garden environment issues I was trying to correct. Meanwhile the plan was to maximize light intensity , no forms of stressful training, increase air circulation and increase overall room temperature, while decreasing canopy temp from light, to maximize water uptake and evaporation so I can feed them sooner and correct pH of the soil.

Next feeding is a of a question. What I have hope to figure out is that my PH was low from the start of the garden. If I give them just water at 7.5, my guess is it will not bring up the ph to 6.5, from 5.5 because it's just plain water. Plain water feed pH fluctuates quickly vs a nutrient water feed, from what I understand. If it takes me 13mls or so to fix PH from 5.5 to 6.5 of the Iguana Juice in 5 gallons of water maybe I can assume I will need at least that much if not more to correct the pH of the soil using the same amount of plain water. If I can feed them nutrients maybe that would help stabilize the pH of the water going in and I could feed at say 7.5 and it might bring it up to 6.5 or 6 but like I said before I feel like with plain water I believe I would have to start at a pH of like 8.5 or more. I am not worried about pH stress change as long as I hit 6.5 in my runoff soil the first time.

I don't have experience correctly ph runoff as I usually don't get this problem. So all input is welcome.

My garden is in a rather tight space so far space and light magnification with heat spots seems to be a long battling issue. After putting the plants outside for a day, I immediately decided I needed indirect direct air fan contact on all walls right above the height of the canopy. Low setting, little light jiggle. Keeps the heat spots along stacked layers of light steady. Big difference, got my light closer and my plants look happier. I hope correcting by correcting the soil pH my problems will be over, for now.
For soil, you need PH to sit between 6 - 7, ideally at 6.5.

Raising ph of a soil is not an easy task and normally requires repeated treatment for a couple of weeks at least. When i had to raise my soil PH, i added baking soda (or any other ph up solution for that matter) to my water to raise it at around 8.5, then decreased by 0.2 every watering until you hit the correct mark but i have a different mix for medium with peat, choir, compost etc...
 

Beachwalker

Well-Known Member
Tl'dr but stop feeding seedlings so much different crap to begin with, then maybe your soil wouldn't be so out of whack?!
 

Bud1284

Active Member
Tl'dr but stop feeding seedlings so much different crap to begin with, then maybe your soil wouldn't be so out of whack?!
Point here...my plants get nothing but water until week 2 or 3!

My soil is quite rich though to make up for that but thats organic slow release
 
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