Daemonn789
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Thank you... that reassures me. I had never heard of that happening before, but now I can understand why overdry parts of the soil could cause leaf death or near death... the roots!
5th Week of Flower - Experiencing Deficiencies
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So i was gonna ask the NPK's of the GROW, but i went ahead and looked it up, 3-1-3, i think it said, but anyways, my point being, I didn't realize, or let it sink in, that you are using the full line of "Humboldt Natural" right? Like, literally the full line! That's great, i don't think i've seen a grow with their full lineup, it all looks like good stuff so it would be cool if you can post updates, or at least a post harvest update.
Have you ran other lines, or did you say this was your 1st organic run?
I use the honey ES, although i guess i didn't realize it had fish in it, oh well.. and i was using the bloom by itself as a phos boost with really bad results LOL, but makes sense now that it should be used in conjuction with THEIR grow & deucedeuce, or at least a well balanced mixture of NPK, the K needing to be pretty high since their bloom is 0-10-0, and that's probably why, at the time (awhile ago now) i really don't think i had enough K to balance out the high P.......
so you're running: grow/bloom/22, flavorful (fulvic), humbolt (humic), prozyme & honeyES right?
Have you innoculated at all with their mycomadness or any mykos?
Have you ran other lines, or did you say this was your 1st organic run?
I use the honey ES, although i guess i didn't realize it had fish in it, oh well.. and i was using the bloom by itself as a phos boost with really bad results LOL, but makes sense now that it should be used in conjuction with THEIR grow & deucedeuce, or at least a well balanced mixture of NPK, the K needing to be pretty high since their bloom is 0-10-0, and that's probably why, at the time (awhile ago now) i really don't think i had enough K to balance out the high P.......
so you're running: grow/bloom/22, flavorful (fulvic), humbolt (humic), prozyme & honeyES right?
Have you innoculated at all with their mycomadness or any mykos?
Going way back but, iirc (botanists, go easy on me!), the meristem/cap and root hairs are the first to die. Then they have to regenerate once they get moisture so it's pretty stressfull. By that time that particular interconnected vegetation is left unsupplied and stress ensues. Root hairs shed off as the root grows but are replaced by new hairs. I'm even very careful when repotting so as not to stress the tiny single celled root hairs that rip off with very slight shifting of the soil. In school, the dept. head was even fussy about the temperature of the water when repotting. Take care of below the soil and they take care of above the soil.
Fun experiment, if you have a moisture meter and one specific shoot is the only part wilting, where in relation to the wilted shoot will you find a dry spot in the soil?
Nice Ol Bud
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Wow guys... Its not N or pH...
You can clearly see its not a mobile nutrient because the picture of the full plant is showing in different spots.
A mobile nutrient starts from the bottom and works its way up with the def.
You can clearly see its not a mobile nutrient because the picture of the full plant is showing in different spots.
A mobile nutrient starts from the bottom and works its way up with the def.
Nice Ol Bud
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This is useless.
Nice Ol Bud
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If you want to find out whats wrong with your plant my friend..
You got to study these three things.
1. https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/532038-full-nutrient-guide-depth.html#post7486800
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You got to study these three things.
1. https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/532038-full-nutrient-guide-depth.html#post7486800
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+ WitchDoctor +
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We actually figured it out, pots got too dry. Nice post though.
+ WitchDoctor +
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Yea I didn't realize the bloom he was using is the 0 10 0, now I get why the grow gets used the whole time, it's all formulated differently. It doesn't seem as practical, but then again neither is all the supps we have to use with Bio Canna lol.
Daemonn789
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Thanks for the pics... But I was posting feeding info to clarify with others if I'm doing it right lol. Are you saying the mix is useless lol? If not, care to elaborate?
Daemonn789
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Yes I have all that you listed and also Verde, White Widow and Equilibrium (calmg). I use white widow in veg waterings and during transplants. I had done one previous grow with grow, bloom, deuce deuce and white widow. Just basics. I do not currently own anything other than white widow for mycos.
My yield was about an oz per plant. I grew Pandora's Box and Sour Bogglegum under 350w of LEDs. I felt meh about it but people I gave it to LOVED it. Said it tasted better than anything they've had recently. And I live in the bay area....
I guess something went right lol. I have pics up on some thread on here with them. I can upload em here too tonight when I'm off. I def plan on following up with these JTR. Thanks for you help man.
Every time I see #3 I want it as a poster. Would like #2 as a wall chart, too.
Daemonn789
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So it looks like the yellowing has stopped and no more leaves have fallen off. Some of the still damaged fan leaves are even hanging on with renewed vigor. No leaves come off even when lightly tugged. Hmm and I would say the hairs are standing straighter on da buds!
Need to keep feeding well and I think they'll all be just fine. I'm thinking of picking up some GO BioBud and the BioCanna Flores just to help along. On good recommendation.
Since I had some deficiency maybe those will help boost things beyond nominal and I can make up some lost time/weight. Don't think the girls will mind lol.
Need to keep feeding well and I think they'll all be just fine. I'm thinking of picking up some GO BioBud and the BioCanna Flores just to help along. On good recommendation.
Since I had some deficiency maybe those will help boost things beyond nominal and I can make up some lost time/weight. Don't think the girls will mind lol.
+ WitchDoctor +
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Good stuff. Just use the Bio Bud though if you're still gonna be using the humboldt grow. If you take out the grow you can jump right in with the flores. And if there's any leaves that are half damaged but half still green you can cut off the bad parts and possibly save the leaf. 
Daemonn789
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Yea I've halved a few of em and they are hanging right on! Standing at attention ever! So if I grab the Biobud and the Flores and want to use them, exclude the GROW but it is ok to use BLOOM. Should I stop using Deuce Deuce? From their site:
Soluble Potash (K2O)…….………….………22.00%
DERIVED FROM: Ascophyllum nodosum Seaweed and Sulfate of Potash.
ALSO CONTAINS NON-PLANT FOOD INGREDIENT:
1% Yucca Extract.
Soluble Potash (K2O)…….………….………22.00%
DERIVED FROM: Ascophyllum nodosum Seaweed and Sulfate of Potash.
ALSO CONTAINS NON-PLANT FOOD INGREDIENT:
1% Yucca Extract.
+ WitchDoctor +
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You can keep using the Deuce Deuce for sure, it's just potassium and yucca, both good. I don't think you need to double up on that one though, especially now. And you can use the bloom as well, but FYI I stop using it around week 5 just to make sure it all gets sucked out of the soil, it's kinda thick. That's up to you though.
Fullensurfer707
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i have to agree with him partially... it is only half useless. it is just too much all at one, ya they can handle it, but they dont like to. what is your ppms when all that is mixed together and then brewed??? i bet alot higher than what its saposed to be. im no critic, but may i give some advise? first of all, hot tea is worse than no tea. i break my watering down into 3 sections every week, my pots dry out every other day, making this ideal. first nutes, then non-chlorinated water, and then finally micro's, and enzymes. plants are kinda like people, do you like to go to a nice restaurant and them serve you all your food in a big jumbled up pile on your plate? no, you like it nice and separate, and that way you can benefit from its different flavors. this is what plants like to do. i have also noticed that plants like fresh, clean water from time to time. by dividing up you supplements to the plant it is less stressfull, and it gives the micros time to build in the soil, and attach to the roots and other material in the soil, thus supplying the plant with more food and better uptake than by crammin it all together and shoving it up its stem! im telling you, but dont take it from me, try it out, and see what you get, and please tell me im dien to hear. also yucca extract, soy extract, wheat, all those make the soil come alive and more fertile, they give the micros a place to live AND EAT!
+ WitchDoctor +
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Hi, Fullensurfer. So you would only feed with nutes once a week on a vegan grow? Most of what you said makes sense to me, except that part. I also break my waterings down into 3 days a week, but I do Feed/Tea/Feed/Tea/Feed/Water usually. I haven't felt like I can get away with only giving nutes one day a week.