70 w HPS?
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gudkarma
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never seen a 150w HPS with a seperate ballast.
always built in.
not noisy.
+1 on the heat issue
i added the a 150w HPS for extra light on the side ...& that light by itself, in a proper vented (intake & exhaust) grow area (6x3x6) raised my overall room temps by 4 degrees.
bought a light mover instead ...& removed the 150w HPS.
still thinking of selling so if you're interested PM me.
always built in.
not noisy.
+1 on the heat issue
i added the a 150w HPS for extra light on the side ...& that light by itself, in a proper vented (intake & exhaust) grow area (6x3x6) raised my overall room temps by 4 degrees.
bought a light mover instead ...& removed the 150w HPS.
still thinking of selling so if you're interested PM me.
wyteberrywidow
Global
Yeah they have them with the seperate ballast take a look at the link i provided.
tigerblowztreez
Active Member
i think they have 150w HPS/175w MH switchables
gudkarma
New Member
that's nice. the only thing you loose with one light is adaptability. but, with 150/175 switchable you get good lumens & the ability to rock one light that puts down a nice footprint.
this morning, i went out to my secret garden & paired a 250w MH with the 150w HPS in a small grow tent. should have it filled with afghan kush & ak48 clones by month's end.
for me, the only legit downside to the internal ballast 150w HPS is that it draws 3.2 amps ...which pushes up the load on my breaker. i have to schedule "lights on" with this new tent when my other shit goes out.
not exactly certain but i'd bet, a digi external & switchable 175/150 will use less amps than an internally ballasted 150w HPS.
the smartest buy is the one using the least amps IMO. the external ballast is just gravey.
anybody know how to disable that fucking annoying "tweets" tab that follows my every page move?
this morning, i went out to my secret garden & paired a 250w MH with the 150w HPS in a small grow tent. should have it filled with afghan kush & ak48 clones by month's end.
for me, the only legit downside to the internal ballast 150w HPS is that it draws 3.2 amps ...which pushes up the load on my breaker. i have to schedule "lights on" with this new tent when my other shit goes out.
not exactly certain but i'd bet, a digi external & switchable 175/150 will use less amps than an internally ballasted 150w HPS.
the smartest buy is the one using the least amps IMO. the external ballast is just gravey.
anybody know how to disable that fucking annoying "tweets" tab that follows my every page move?
dudeoflife
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Lol. The "tweets" tab won't be around for too too long. It's pretty obvious this site is obviously being managed by a few stoner web developers. I know how they work. New features will come and go as the site grows. Some features will live and die by user feedback. (I am also a stoner web developer)
Anyhow, I see the conversation has now turned from 70 watt hps's to 150 Watt hps's.
Can I get a "hell yeah" for 400 watts?
That's what I started with in the wayback....
Seriously though, for the budget minded people:
I wouldn't concern myself with having a switchable at that low of a wattage. The extra cheese you'd spend for keeping two separate lamps at that level of lumens would be overkill. Pointless, really.
Just go with the 150 hps. It'll be all you need to get started, from beginning to end, without breaking the bank. The selection is pretty vast, too. Although it does get even better & more economical at the 400 watt threshold...
Worry about switchables once you graduate to the 600 watt club, after you get a few good grows & bigger space together.
Anyhow, I see the conversation has now turned from 70 watt hps's to 150 Watt hps's.
Can I get a "hell yeah" for 400 watts?
That's what I started with in the wayback....Seriously though, for the budget minded people:
I wouldn't concern myself with having a switchable at that low of a wattage. The extra cheese you'd spend for keeping two separate lamps at that level of lumens would be overkill. Pointless, really.
Just go with the 150 hps. It'll be all you need to get started, from beginning to end, without breaking the bank. The selection is pretty vast, too. Although it does get even better & more economical at the 400 watt threshold...
Worry about switchables once you graduate to the 600 watt club, after you get a few good grows & bigger space together.
bewareofdogandowner
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View attachment 1150207all my lights are free. 70w hps, 175w mh, 400w mh.
New Grower 420
Active Member
i didint expect this post to get so much attention haha but im glad it did ive got some good sites to go buy a light at.
dudeoflife
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That's the best price! How much for a membership?
dudeoflife
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Hey- here's a good one:
http://insidesun.com
I can't give this guy enough props. He started on ebay like about 15 years ago, and now has a nice, real business together and site. He started off converting streetlights into growlights in the wayback. I've purchase many, many 1000 watters from this guy. Does phone orders, too.
New Grower 420
Active Member
damn a 400 watter for only 99.99
dudeoflife
Well-Known Member
I bought 5 1000 watters for about 1100.00 with shipping a few years ago. They were magnetic, and made in China, but I never had any problems with them. They are the generic stainless steel looking models. Honestly, I had way more probs setting up my new digital ballasts. So touchy!
Anyway, the specials on that site are probably the best on the internet.
The biz is based in Indiana, so shipping only took 2 days to Ohio.
Anyway, the specials on that site are probably the best on the internet.
The biz is based in Indiana, so shipping only took 2 days to Ohio.
dudeoflife
Well-Known Member
A 150 watt conversion bulb is impractical at that wattage- that's why you can't really find them. Once you get into the 400-600 watt realm, you'll have the selection.
The reason why you see a lot more hps based systems is because you can grow a plant from start to finish with HPS. MH is best for vegetative growth, and supplemental lighting during flowering. You will get a lower yield of you use an MH from start to finish. (resin production will be nice, though)
New Grower 420
Active Member
i am the wrong guy to ask im an outdoor grower at the momment haha....but from what ive gatherd the ballast has to be a mh conversion.
dudeoflife
Well-Known Member
Mmmm. I'm a bit baked and lost rt now, and I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.
For that price, you are better off with a 250 hps. Just HPS. Forget MH when you are under 400 watts. 600, really.
100+ bucks for 150 watt conversion bulbs? Crazy expensive. Way too impractical for the lumens. Dude, you can buy a 1000 watt hortilux HPS bulb all day for 80 bucks on Ebay. That's the industry standard. See my reasoning here?
XxK2xX
Active Member
No i really dont because alot of people my self included are not looking for that big of light i mean are you going to throw a 1000w hps/mh in a cab grow or even a 400 for that matter, no didnt think so or hell even a 250 is pushin it imo. thats why i had so many questions about a 150 and really all it seams like your doing is bashing a 150......
dudeoflife
Well-Known Member
Nah. I know everybody isn't set up for a 1000 watts.
I just think shelling out $100+ for a 150 watt bulb is a waste. You can buy 40-60 dollar 400 watt bulbs all day and spend the difference you would spend on that hundred-plus dollar 150 watt bulb on ventilation.
I'm not bashing 150 watt bulbs. I'm bashing $120 dollar 150 watt bulbs.
gudkarma
New Member
150w lamps have a purpose in the tool kit... just as 600w lamps do... just as 1000w-ers do.
personally, if you are rocking only one lamp i strongly suggest a switchable digi ballast.
if not digi, external at the very least.
if not external, get whatever you can get!
imo, nothing produces for you like a hid light.
furthermore, digi is easy on amps, you can rock both bulb types, and the external ballast is more efficient with the load.
in every 24 hours, i have 600w rocking in two seperate built-in flower closets (1200w) not including side lighting , 250w in a veg closet going 20/4 , a tent rocking the 150w hps coupled w/ a 250w MH (400w) , and a clone shelf using another 100w... my issue is lots of amps (load) all the time.
the 150w HPS, for me, is a good light... just not the best or most efficient option (which is why dudeoflife make so much sense).
just buying a light mover is going to save me 150w (24 hours a day) and a minimum of 3.2 amps off my total load... both smart & efficient.
if all you can get is one lamp... go with a 150w HPS ...it'll get the job done.
personally, if you are rocking only one lamp i strongly suggest a switchable digi ballast.
if not digi, external at the very least.
if not external, get whatever you can get!
imo, nothing produces for you like a hid light.
furthermore, digi is easy on amps, you can rock both bulb types, and the external ballast is more efficient with the load.
in every 24 hours, i have 600w rocking in two seperate built-in flower closets (1200w) not including side lighting , 250w in a veg closet going 20/4 , a tent rocking the 150w hps coupled w/ a 250w MH (400w) , and a clone shelf using another 100w... my issue is lots of amps (load) all the time.
the 150w HPS, for me, is a good light... just not the best or most efficient option (which is why dudeoflife make so much sense).
just buying a light mover is going to save me 150w (24 hours a day) and a minimum of 3.2 amps off my total load... both smart & efficient.
if all you can get is one lamp... go with a 150w HPS ...it'll get the job done.