A-51 growers thread

THCbreeder

THCbreeder

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Man I'd love to know what it's looking like at area-51 . Their back ordered which is good for business ! Just wondering if I were to order several 150"s. How long they'd take to make and ship to Michigan and then ship to the consumer? . Also wondering if I should just wait til the new models come available for sale but they have a window of December and no later April 2015 and using 10w XP-L cree LEDs . Hmmm whose got the inside scoop ?
 
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az2000

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THCbreeder said:
wondering if I should just wait til the new models come available for sale but they have a window of December and no later April 2015 and using 10w XP-L cree LEDs . Hmmm whose got the inside scoop ?
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I'm curious if 10w chips will increase the distance to canopy. More generally, why 10w is better than two 5w chips, or 5w better than two 3w. I like more distributed light. So, fewer stronger points, not sure why that's better except in large grow spaces. I assume the industry's movement to 5 and 10w chips isn't just "bigger is better."

EH said something about the new lights being configurable (remove lenses/reflectors?) for more diffuse light. That sounds good. But, it kind of validates my viewpoint that more diffuse (surrounding) light can be better under some circumstances. Therefore, why is diffuse 10w better than diffuse 5w, or 3w?
 
THCbreeder

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az2000 said:
I'm curious if 10w chips will increase the distance to canopy. More generally, why 10w is better than two 5w chips, or 5w better than two 3w. I like more distributed light. So, fewer stronger points, not sure why that's better except in large grow spaces. I assume the industry's movement to 5 and 10w chips isn't just "bigger is better."

EH said something about the new lights being configurable (remove lenses/reflectors?) for more diffuse light. That sounds good. But, it kind of validates my viewpoint that more diffuse (surrounding) light can be better under some circumstances. Therefore, why is diffuse 10w better than diffuse 5w, or 3w?
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Good point . I'm thinking more light can infiltrate the canopy ? More density with bigger chips ? Better outside par readings on the perimeter .? Who knows we"ll see . Think I might just wait and I'm thinking it's gonna be 500-650$ price range when they drop .....anymore I might have to start considering other options since I'll be trying to light a 5x5 .
 
captainmorgan

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az2000 said:
I'm curious if 10w chips will increase the distance to canopy. More generally, why 10w is better than two 5w chips, or 5w better than two 3w. I like more distributed light. So, fewer stronger points, not sure why that's better except in large grow spaces. I assume the industry's movement to 5 and 10w chips isn't just "bigger is better."

EH said something about the new lights being configurable (remove lenses/reflectors?) for more diffuse light. That sounds good. But, it kind of validates my viewpoint that more diffuse (surrounding) light can be better under some circumstances. Therefore, why is diffuse 10w better than diffuse 5w, or 3w?
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My guess would be that the XP-L was chosen for it's spectrum and efficiency and it only comes in a 10 watt version. The new light will have dimmers so that the intensity and spectrum can be adjusted. The removable lenses or reflectors would give the light the advantage of being adaptable to different grow styles or height restrictions. With these options it makes the same light useful for a wide variety of situations including vegging at all stages.
 
THCbreeder

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captainmorgan said:
My guess would be that the XP-L was chosen for it's spectrum and efficiency and it only comes in a 10 watt version. The new light will have dimmers so that the intensity and spectrum can be adjusted. The removable lenses or reflectors would give the light the advantage of being adaptable to different grow styles or height restrictions. With these options it makes the same light useful for a wide variety of situations including vegging at all stages.
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I hope so ! I'm waiting for that 1000$ dollar flowering light to come along
 
hotshotisdashit

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blowincherrypie said:
lol I'm actually still using my CLW.. It's a step up from the HTG but just barely.. You can grow big buds with CFLs.. Once you get a better lamp (even my 2012 Area 51s runs laps around the thing) you will realize how much of a POS the CLW is.. Until then, do everybody a favor and stop recommending those crap ass lamps..
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Hey Blowin what don't you like about the clw lights? I have the 440 and I love it. Got good results each time and dank product.
I am, however, very impressed with the results I've been seeing with the area 51 light.
So I guess I got a question for you and all of the fellas using area 51 lights... Are they the best light on the market? What other lights can give a51 a run for its money? What's all the excitement about white lights? Sorry op not trying to hijack your thread. Just a little inquisitive and want
opopinions of some knowledgeable ppl on these lights.
 
hotshotisdashit

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blowincherrypie said:
My biggest problem with my old CLW 200 was the light set up. As with most LEDs the light goes straight down.. The A51 lights are spread out better which does a better job evenly lighting my tent. Not saying the CLWs arent bright lights, and I forgot who tested it, but if I remember correctly the SGS/RW was putting out similar numbers as the older CLW 400 while drawing about half at the plug.

What exactly did CLW do to upgrade? I'm not hating but they still have that garbage ass 1st generation R/B LED look..
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Ok Blowing got a better understanding of what you were saying. More clear. Had to catch up reading on the thread. But still wanna know what lights can give a51 a run for their money?


Ok Blowin got a better under
 
Bad Karma

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hotshotisdashit said:
Ok Blowing got a better understanding of what you were saying. More clear. Had to catch up reading on the thread. But still wanna know what lights can give a51 a run for their money?


Ok Blowin got a better under
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The only LED lights that can currently compete with Area 51, are Apache Tech, and DIY COB panels.
There may be other lights that are good, but those three are the best, and are in an elite class of their own.
 
NapalmD

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hotshotisdashit

hotshotisdashit

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Bad Karma said:
The only LED lights that can currently compete with Area 51, are Apache Tech, and DIY COB panels.
There may be other lights that are good, but those three are the best, and are in an elite class of their own.
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[QUOTE="Bad
lights that can currently
compete with Area 51, are
Apache Tech, and DIY COB
panels.
There may be other lights that are good, but those three are the best, and are in an elite class of their own.[/QUOTE]



Thanks Badkarma. Ive
been hearing so many
positive things about these lights. Have even seen some not too experienced growers pulling crazy yields. I think you and a few others have convinced me to give these a try. Plus they don't seem much more expensive than most other led lights. Ok tax time let's hurry up. Lol.
 
cdd10

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NapalmD said:
She looks super duper healthy!
Should be a quality pull in every aspect. In comparison your girl looks like she's riding to harvest in a stretch escalade limo with full bar while my girls looking like she's on the short bus to school with no seat belts and a flat tire.
Edit: I have to ask, what are you growing that foxy lady in?
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lol thanks man! I'm growing in roots organic original soil with the full lineup but I've only fed two times so far getting ready to get another light feeding :)
 
THCbreeder

THCbreeder

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hotshotisdashit said:
[QUOTE="Bad
lights that can currently
compete with Area 51, are
Apache Tech, and DIY COB
panels.
There may be other lights that are good, but those three are the best, and are in an elite class of their own.
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Thanks Badkarma. Ive
been hearing so many
positive things about these lights. Have even seen some not too experienced growers pulling crazy yields. I think you and a few others have convinced me to give these a try. Plus they don't seem much more expensive than most other led lights. Ok tax time let's hurry up. Lol.[/QUOTE]
That's what I'm waiting on Lolololol . Gonna get 4 rw-150s
 
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