AACT, Bloom Tea, Veg Tea, Fungal Tea, Myco Tea, recipes from the outdoor guys.

st0wandgrow · Mar 7, 2014

KLITE said:
Hi all

Ive dabbed in organics over the years but never tried the teas. I have a few doubts.Do i have to dilute the tea after its done bubling? At what ratio? Im planning on making guano tea for flower and worm casting for veg. Can i use humbolt honey instead of molasses?
Do i not risk burning the plants with some recipes ive read on the first page if the plants are already in a richly ammended soil being pushed to the very max without being burnt?

I've never made a guano tea so I'll leave that for someone else to answer. As far as a compost tea, you can absolutely dilute it if you wish, but it's not necessary. A compost tea won't burn your plants, and can be applied as often as you like. As far as the "Humbolt Honey" is concerned, it's probably fine. Read the ingredients. Most of these products are made from molasses anyway so you're probably OK to use it.

JohnDoeOntario · Mar 7, 2014

Slowly getting off bottled nutes. Looking for some tea-soil advice. I have made a 10liter vortex bioreactor (brewer, bioreactor sounds more badass) and am brewing my first tea. I went 1/2 cup EWC and 2.5 tablespoons of molasses. Its been brewing for about 24hrs now, Im watering tomorrow night. My soil mix is 75% promix hp and 25%ewc.

Im using the rest of my AN PH perfect line of bottle nutes and brewing teas for inbetween feedings. My question retains more to the soil.

Is there anything I can add to my soil mix to improve overall health and cooperation with the teas?
And again for foiler spray, anything that will put the cherry ontop of the organic milkshake?

Thanks, and wonderful thread so far (except for some drama lol)

DonPetro · Mar 8, 2014

You are really gonna want to look at building a properly amended soil mix for your next run. That really is the key imo. Look up some great recipes in the ROLS sticky.

JohnDoeOntario · Mar 8, 2014

DonPetro said:
You are really gonna want to look at building a properly amended soil mix for your next run. That really is the key imo. Look up some great recipes in the ROLS sticky.

I have done that thanks so much. Between that thread and Canns organic thread I have hatched a plan and will begin collecting the things I need over time. Im trying to burn through my bottle nutes before I begin a no till soil.

For the base mix
1/3 vermicompost
1/3 pearlite
1/3 Moss

Could I just mix Promix HP and then the vermicompost?

KLITE · Mar 8, 2014

st0wandgrow said:
I've never made a guano tea so I'll leave that for someone else to answer. As far as a compost tea, you can absolutely dilute it if you wish, but it's not necessary. A compost tea won't burn your plants, and can be applied as often as you like. As far as the "Humbolt Honey" is concerned, it's probably fine. Read the ingredients. Most of these products are made from molasses anyway so you're probably OK to use it.

Thanks for input pal. Im just thinking of checking the ec and if its too high ill dilute i suppose...

Scroga · Mar 8, 2014

You shouldn't get a high ec reading due to low salt content..

Scroga · Mar 8, 2014

So do you guys breed mycos with the bennies or seperatly? Mycos first?

GandalfdaGreen · Mar 8, 2014

st0wandgrow said:
I've never made a guano tea so I'll leave that for someone else to answer. As far as a compost tea, you can absolutely dilute it if you wish, but it's not necessary. A compost tea won't burn your plants, and can be applied as often as you like. As far as the "Humbolt Honey" is concerned, it's probably fine. Read the ingredients. Most of these products are made from molasses anyway so you're probably OK to use it.

Humbolt Honey is cool to use.

KLITE · Mar 9, 2014

GandalfdaGreen said:
Humbolt Honey is cool to use.

It has sea weed extract in it tooplus a few other bits and bobs, i bet it does give it an extra little punch. Been brewing a tea for 24 hours now and theres already some nice foam forming on top, measured PPM and its at 700 or something. Put less than half a cup of bat guano 1 cup of my own worm castings/compost and 25ml of humbolt honey.
On the worm matter, doesn anyone else put 2 or 3 worms in the pots to keep the roots company?

DonPetro · Mar 9, 2014

I never actually add worms but always end up with a few from them hatching in the soil mix.

Elijah Cloud · Mar 19, 2014

I've used AACT just 3 times now and I've seen the most explosive growth. I collected some deer poo for the first time today. You can't imagine how excited I am about shit these days. Might as well have been collecting magical unicorn poo. Anyway, If I make AACT whole, using no nylon bag in my 5 gallon bucket, can I dump my solids ontop of the soil, even if I'm feeding the plants every other watering? This would be a lot of solids for the amount of aact I apply. What are some proposed ways of reusing the spent solid portions? Right now, I'm saving them for a future compost soil creation. Can and do some effectively resuse those solids for the next brew? If so, for how many brews? I'm using 1/3c ewc, 2/3c bat/seabird guanos, kelp, molasses (standard recipe). I want to effectively use everything to the highest nature order possible. What do you suggest I do with my bag of shit when my brew is done?

charface · Mar 19, 2014

Elijah Cloud said:
I've used AACT just 3 times now and I've seen the most explosive growth. I collected some deer poo for the first time today. You can't imagine how excited I am about shit these days. Might as well have been collecting magical unicorn poo. Anyway, If I make AACT whole, using no nylon bag in my 5 gallon bucket, can I dump my solids ontop of the soil, even if I'm feeding the plants every other watering? This would be a lot of solids for the amount of aact I apply. What are some proposed ways of reusing the spent solid portions? Right now, I'm saving them for a future compost soil creation. Can and do some effectively resuse those solids for the next brew? If so, for how many brews? I'm using 1/3c ewc, 2/3c bat/seabird guanos, kelp, molasses (standard recipe). I want to effectively use everything to the highest nature order possible. What do you suggest I do with my bag of shit when my brew is done?

Thats funny.
I have been picturing myself
in the yard picking up bunny poops as soon as they come out again.
Weed does strange things to a man.

DonPetro · Mar 19, 2014

If you recycle your soil, it would be good to toss the leftovers in there. Into the compost pile or onto the garden would be great too. Depending on how many plants you have, top-dressing with it is all good. Just keep it away from the main stalk.

Elijah Cloud · Mar 19, 2014

Thanks for the topdressing tip of avoiding the main stalk! That's helpful. Perhaps I will try to mix the spent material with some crushed eggshells. I am hypothesizing that the the material is in a safer bio-format after being consumed by the microbes, but it eases my mind to think that eggshells might offer some additional ph buffer? I really don't know... :-?

It just seems to make good sense to mix in something else organic, making the superfood a little more well rounded as a topdressing. I'll tell you what I do know.... AACT is amazing and poo IS magical. And... poo fixations are hilarious.

P. S. I took my last spend material and added it to a collection of dry bunny poo inside a paper bag (and shook it all about). Figured the bunny poo would absorb the moisture of the spent material allowing me to temporarily keep this bag inside until I can construct a proper composting recepticle for outside.

st0wandgrow · Mar 19, 2014

charface said:
Thats funny.
I have been picturing myself
in the yard picking up bunny poops as soon as they come out again.
Weed does strange things to a man.

I don't use guanos so I really can't comment much on that .... except to say that they are one of the few things in organics that can burn a plant, so keep that in mind.

I like to take the spent material from a nutrient tea (typically alfalfa meal/kelp meal) and feed it to my worms. I let them process it and then use the castings as a top dress.

charface · Mar 19, 2014

st0wandgrow said:
I don't use guanos so I really can't comment much on that .... except to say that they are one of the few things in organics that can burn a plant, so keep that in mind.

I like to take the spent material from a nutrient tea (typically alfalfa meal/kelp meal) and feed it to my worms. I let them process it and then use the castings as a top dress.

Thats pretty interesting.

DonPetro · Mar 20, 2014

st0wandgrow said:
I don't use guanos so I really can't comment much on that .... except to say that they are one of the few things in organics that can burn a plant, so keep that in mind.

I like to take the spent material from a nutrient tea (typically alfalfa meal/kelp meal) and feed it to my worms. I let them process it and then use the castings as a top dress.

Stow, when you make a nutrient tea, what are your ratios?

st0wandgrow · Mar 20, 2014

DonPetro said:
Stow, when you make a nutrient tea, what are your ratios?

In veg I use 3/4 cup of alfalfa meal, and a 1/4 cup kelp meal to 5 gallons of water, bubbled for 24 hours. I only bubble with 4 gallons of water and then add another gallon once I'm done because it will foam up a bit and make a mess if you fill the 5 gallon bucket to the top.

In the first few weeks of flower I use a 1/2 cup of alfalfa meal and 1/2 cup of kelp meal, same ditty as above.

This is per Coot/Lumperdawg's advice.

Dr.J20 · Mar 20, 2014

st0wandgrow said:
In veg I use 3/4 cup of alfalfa meal, and a 1/4 cup kelp meal to 5 gallons of water, bubbled for 24 hours. I only bubble with 4 gallons of water and then add another gallon once I'm done because it will foam up a bit and make a mess if you fill the 5 gallon bucket to the top.

In the first few weeks of flower I use a 1/2 cup of alfalfa meal and 1/2 cup of kelp meal, same ditty as above.

This is per Coot/Lumperdawg's advice.

are you giving this nute tea on more of a schedule, or as-needed basis?

hyroot · Mar 20, 2014

st0wandgrow said:
In veg I use 3/4 cup of alfalfa meal, and a 1/4 cup kelp meal to 5 gallons of water, bubbled for 24 hours. I only bubble with 4 gallons of water and then add another gallon once I'm done because it will foam up a bit and make a mess if you fill the 5 gallon bucket to the top.

In the first few weeks of flower I use a 1/2 cup of alfalfa meal and 1/2 cup of kelp meal, same ditty as above.

This is per Coot/Lumperdawg's advice.

you know the buckets from home depot and lowes are 5.4 gallons for similar reasons. the walmart ones are 5 exactly. I've been using 1/2 cup alfalfa meal. do you think the 1/4 cup would make a noticeable difference?

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