AACT, Bloom Tea, Veg Tea, Fungal Tea, Myco Tea, recipes from the outdoor guys.

Pattahabi said:

Can I ask you, what does soap do to microbes? Even in small amounts? Will this help the microbial multiplication, or hinder it?

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Here's the only advice I've found - from the Daily Mail (lol)

Q I use my washing-up and bath water to water my patio plants. My husband says that so much soapy water is not good for them. Is that right?
Mrs Pam Pritchard, West Mersea, Essex

A In principle you are doing the right thing, although your husband is also partly correct. In fact, the potential harm is less to the plants than to the soil, with its complex bacterial and fungal make-up. Recycled soapy water (‘grey’ water) is perfectly usable for plants, but I would not use it exclusively. Rotate it with ‘clean’ water on an alternate basis and, as with all watering, direct it at the roots rather than the foliage.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/gardening/article-1296007/ASK-MONTY--Is-wrong-hydrate-plants-soapy-water.html#ixzz3IZDqBtzX

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Scroga,

Soaps are the salt of a fatty acid - there is going to be some interaction with the life in the soil. In a chemical grow it'll matter less. In an organic grow it's clearly not going to poison anything off the bat - keeping in mind dilution and frequency of application.


It's not just about the soil - there's a symbiotic relationshiip b/t the plant and critters in the dirt, with the plant's roots actively controlling the fungal life around it. For that reason I sure as hell wouldn't use it in a grow, but maybe a lawn. It'd be a fun trial to run to see how a grey-watered plant fared - I'm guessing a little slower and little smaller from lower food availability.
Worst case would be something like what I've seen using sodium benzoate on a couple of rooted clones. Did it to see what'd happen (bought wrong bottle of aloe, lol). A complete stall of growth. I've dosed with ACT and SST repeatedly to get things moving, but four weeks later and so far no bueno - plants still 4" high. I fucking love these learning experiences, haha.

Thanks for the info Smokey. . So if it was organic dish soap would that be different or is that a marketing thing. ..
Any ways I do ask some silly sht when bent. . It's sometimes the kids will have 3 baths a day. . And im constantly topping my tea bucket up.. Just kills me to see all the water go to waste..

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Scroga said:

Thanks for the info Smokey. . So if it was organic dish soap would that be different or is that a marketing thing. ..
Any ways I do ask some silly sht when bent. . It's sometimes the kids will have 3 baths a day. . And im constantly topping my tea bucket up.. Just kills me to see all the water go to waste..

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**Disclaimer - it's been nearly 20 years since I was in a chemistry classroom **

Dish soap is sodium stearate - with a bit of colour and scent mixed in. People use soaps as spray surfactants all the time - but obviously these are fairly minute doses. The main risk as I see it would be introducing a salt source into your soil.

Given a long enough timeline and enough good water to dilute the bad stuff, there is pretty much nothing that fungus can't remediate. The issue will be that a flowering cycle only has ~60 days.

Would cleaning the gunk from my aquarium filter into my tea bucket be a good idea?

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Scroga said:

Would cleaning the gunk from my aquarium filter into my tea bucket be a good idea?

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Maybe into a beastly outdoor mini garden or compost, but other than that, hayelllllll no bruv.. treat a tea like a triple bypass for best clean, mean results! lol

Rodger that.. But I don't even know what my castings is really breaking down too? I don't know it the way you guys know yours. ..

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Hey, just a quick post on the topic of air stones. I was brewing 5 gallons a time with two air stones until one stone broke where the tubing connects to the stone itself. Since that stone broke, I've run a few brews with just one stone.

Well, I just went out and picked up a new air stone ($1.99, local pet store), and immediately the quality of the brew has increased. One smaller stone was not enough. I had thought it might be my water, or that my water filters had depleted, but it was all just a lack of o2.

So, in brewing teas, more air stones is better than one

keysareme said:

Hey, just a quick post on the topic of air stones. I was brewing 5 gallons a time with two air stones until one stone broke where the tubing connects to the stone itself. Since that stone broke, I've run a few brews with just one stone.

Well, I just went out and picked up a new air stone ($1.99, local pet store), and immediately the quality of the brew has increased. One smaller stone was not enough. I had thought it might be my water, or that my water filters had depleted, but it was all just a lack of o2.

So, in brewing teas, more air stones is better than one

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Here is the brew at about 39 hours (going for 48 total)

I started making teas with all of my additives and I saw amazing growth and the buds taste so good. I am now making my own soil and I have just started doing this and it works so well and quick. After reading the recipes here I am going to make some tweaks. This stuff is making one of my plants go nuts it doubled in size in one week directly after transplant. I have it in drip bucket I made and it is like it is hydro. I am more into my growing than ever before. I am not trying mix all kinds of crazy shit and wondering what it may do to me or my friends. I am using all organic pest control and food is about 90% organic. I am confident now though that I can stop all commercial product use and get better results or at least the same. I like purple max and Krystal, and bud candy added with molasses in flower and a phosfor push like overdrive or gravity. Once I run out I guess I run out. Putting the food in the tea made them explode. I will post my drip bucket soon it is cool. A hydro net insert inside a five gallon bucket. In bottom of bucket another 4 net pot with a bucket bottom on top of it. Now it has a wicking hole, inside the wicking hole a sure to grow 4 inch round or rockwool or what you please. Around the net pot I have grow rock in bottom under the bucket bottom I cut out of another bucket. The idea was air instead of DWC. To make what little soil there is stick together I used coco and packed to inside of bucket to snug up to the 6 in net pot insert that snaps on top of five gallon bucket. With teas I can control roots and hopefully get some killer returns.

what is black storm? and organic B

Im running ewc,kelp,fish sauce, molasses in my tea's.

Will be adding a handful of soil to it this time. And getting a fungi headstart for the next one.

I asked a few times before and always get referred to this thread but I'm still not finding it. Are there any reputable companies that I can buy premade tea mixes so I don't have to mix them myself

extreme tea works well.

mathew pixley said:

I asked a few times before and always get referred to this thread but I'm still not finding it. Are there any reputable companies that I can buy premade tea mixes so I don't have to mix them myself

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http://www.xtreme-gardening.com/products/xtreme-tea-brews

mathew pixley said:

I asked a few times before and always get referred to this thread but I'm still not finding it. Are there any reputable companies that I can buy premade tea mixes so I don't have to mix them myself

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Boogie brew. My plants love it

anyone ever added malted barley sprouted seeds, halfway or towards then end of a AACT brew, just EWC & BSM, maybe ? yeah?

Yay to this thread!!! Open source tea sharing is what's up!! Brew people brew!!

I've been aiming to tweak boogie brews recipe with down to earth products, although I think as is may be perfect for the flowering ladies!?

Good stuff everyone!! Keep it up!

RockinDaGanja said:

Boogie brew. My plants love it

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Do you use it with other dry amendments in your soil? What is your frequency and dilution??

I am trying to crack the boogie brew code, even though they did an open source video, percentages are extremely vague! I work at DTE so these products are available to me on the CHEAP!

Pattahabi said:

Add mycos at transplant - not in a tea of any kind. Dust the roots if possible. Anything else is like throwing spaghetti at the wall. Remember there are humic acids in vermicompost. Imo Leonardite is a waste of time and money. If you want humics, look up BioAg.

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Why is leonardite a waste of time and money? This is an honest question and not rude or anything.
It's my understanding it's one of the best sources of humics available.

I'm still learning, your input is appreciated.

They should sell myco at Oh iunno, Walmart, and Home Depot, f$&king bastards.. The one product they claim is myco is 95% junk. Half these hydro stores are like, noo we don't get the myco anymore it was $90 bottles no one bought them.. No shit you idiot lol you shoulda bought the $5 packs and sold them for $10 like every good American place would..
Man, insane saturation in the hydro store game, everyone is wheeling in pallets of 5 gallons filled with liquid chem soup and no one knows how to get a box of Xtreme mycos for the city and take over organics? Hmm..
All good..life is goooooood.
Opportunity for someone...

Organja said:

Do you use it with other dry amendments in your soil? What is your frequency and dilution??

I am trying to crack the boogie brew code, even though they did an open source video, percentages are extremely vague! I work at DTE so these products are available to me on the CHEAP!

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I use as recommended. I do have DTE products in my soil and some different rock dusts. In veg I usually just use EWC dehydrated sugarcane (or mollasses) with a couple different sea kelps for my AACT.