Abortion, if you object does that mean you want to control women's uteri

Red1966

Red1966

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UncleBuck said:
what you just described is known as a partial birth abortion, and it is already illegal. has been for nearly a decade in fact. believe me, i know. i used to describe the act of a partial birth abortion at least 100 times every night to strangers on the phone. the emotional shock really drives up the donations. and the nonsense about obama voting to butcher live babies has already been debunked. now it just smells like butthurt.
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Illegal, but still practiced. Obama voted to deny babies the right to healthcare. Misstating Obama's record and the contents of the bills didn't "debunk" anything. Your too tedious and dishonest.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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UncleBuck said:
i hold pad in much higher esteem than a bible thumper like yourself. at least he can provide citation for what he writes, meanwhile you refuse to provide citation and commit logical fallacies against his.
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Declare victory where none exist. Lame
 
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ChesusRice

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Red1966 said:
Illegal, but still practiced. Obama voted to deny babies the right to healthcare. Misstating Obama's record and the contents of the bills didn't "debunk" anything. Your too tedious and dishonest.
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In the Illinois state legislature, Obama opposed the Induced Infant Liability Act[SUP][6][/SUP] and repeatedly voted against requirements and restrictions intended to stop what opponents label "born alive" abortions.[SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP] Obama said his opposition was because of technical language he felt might have "interfered with a woman's right to choose" and said Illinois law already required medical care in such situations.[SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP]
Obama voted against the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act, saying "On an issue like partial birth abortion, I strongly believe that the state can properly restrict late-term abortions. I have said so repeatedly. All I've said is we should have a provision to protect the health of the mother, and many of the bills that came before me didn't have that."[SUP][10][/SUP] Obama voted against a bill that would have made it a federal crime for anyone other than a parent to accompany a minor across state lines to obtain an abortion.[SUP][11][/SUP] Obama has, however, expressed support of bans on some late-term abortions, provided they include exemptions for the mental and physical health of the mother.[SUP][12][/SUP]
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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ChesusRice said:
In the Illinois state legislature, Obama opposed the Induced Infant Liability Act[SUP][6][/SUP] and repeatedly voted against requirements and restrictions intended to stop what opponents label "born alive" abortions.[SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP] Obama said his opposition was because of technical language he felt might have "interfered with a woman's right to choose" and said Illinois law already required medical care in such situations.[SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP]
Obama voted against the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act, saying "On an issue like partial birth abortion, I strongly believe that the state can properly restrict late-term abortions. I have said so repeatedly. All I've said is we should have a provision to protect the health of the mother, and many of the bills that came before me didn't have that."[SUP][10][/SUP] Obama voted against a bill that would have made it a federal crime for anyone other than a parent to accompany a minor across state lines to obtain an abortion.[SUP][11][/SUP] Obama has, however, expressed support of bans on some late-term abortions, provided they include exemptions for the mental and physical health of the mother.[SUP][12][/SUP]
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Lol, you won't get far with Red, irrational people can't be rationed with, illogical people don't value logical arguments.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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ChesusRice said:
In the Illinois state legislature, Obama opposed the Induced Infant Liability Act[SUP][6][/SUP] and repeatedly voted against requirements and restrictions intended to stop what opponents label "born alive" abortions.[SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP] Obama said his opposition was because of technical language he felt might have "interfered with a woman's right to choose" and said Illinois law already required medical care in such situations.[SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP] Obama voted against the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act, saying "On an issue like partial birth abortion, I strongly believe that the state can properly restrict late-term abortions. I have said so repeatedly. All I've said is we should have a provision to protect the health of the mother, and many of the bills that came before me didn't have that."[SUP][10][/SUP] Obama voted against a bill that would have made it a federal crime for anyone other than a parent to accompany a minor across state lines to obtain an abortion.[SUP][11][/SUP] Obama has, however, expressed support of bans on some late-term abortions, provided they include exemptions for the mental and physical health of the mother.[SUP][12][/SUP]
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" Illinois law already required medical care in such situations." Yet this care is not given. ""interfered with a woman's right to choose" The baby is outside the womb, and it's still "a woman's right to choose"?
 
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