AC Infinity Cloudray 6" Auto Oscillating Fan

DrDukePHD

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We know you have a grudge. We’ve seen all your other threads about it.

Did you get a fan with extra holes, because that would be the only way your ‘experience’ weighs in here.
I don't hold a grudge, the moment I receive a quality product from the company I'll be singing their praises. Furthermore, I wasn't commenting on a technical data post, i commented on a "opinion" post (i.e. AC is the new Apple) with a equally jokey comment. Therefor no fan-relevant experience was neccessary to comment.
 

watsongreenthumb

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I just bought an 8" AC infinity inline fan because I wanted something cheap for a tent, and I liked that the temperature control was included. Honestly I was expecting it to be much higher quality due to all the hype I have heard over ACI's products. The build quality isnt even close to being on par with a Max-Fan or a Hyper-Fan. Thin single layer metal housing, blades seem more cheaply made etc. It does offer a lot of controllability for the price though, and I am pleased with its performance in the application I bought it for (venting a 4x8 tent). It does have an annoying motor whine though that none of my other fans have, not sure if that is normal or not. Like I said its a good fan for the price I paid for it ($150) but if your expecting it to be comparable in quality to top tier fans you will be disappointed.
 

RIS

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I just bought an 8" AC infinity inline fan because I wanted something cheap for a tent, and I liked that the temperature control was included. Honestly I was expecting it to be much higher quality due to all the hype I have heard over ACI's products. The build quality isnt even close to being on par with a Max-Fan or a Hyper-Fan. Thin single layer metal housing, blades seem more cheaply made etc. It does offer a lot of controllability for the price though, and I am pleased with its performance in the application I bought it for (venting a 4x8 tent). It does have an annoying motor whine though that none of my other fans have, not sure if that is normal or not. Like I said its a good fan for the price I paid for it ($150) but if your expecting it to be comparable in quality to top tier fans you will be disappointed.
I ended up getting a noise reduction adapter and its like no difference, the wine is still there. I will say the control is the best part.
 

watsongreenthumb

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I ended up getting a noise reduction adapter and its like no difference, the wine is still there. I will say the control is the best part.
Yeah its a whine from the motor, not airflow noise so its tricky to do anything about. Seems to carry though walls more so than just the regular wind noise I associate with fans. Sound like you have the same whine so its not just my fan. I may try making a wrap for it of some kind and see if that helps.
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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I don't hold a grudge, the moment I receive a quality product from the company I'll be singing their praises. Furthermore, I wasn't commenting on a technical data post, i commented on a "opinion" post (i.e. AC is the new Apple) with a equally jokey comment. Therefor no fan-relevant experience was neccessary to comment.
The comment was related to AC Infinity putting out 'gadgets' that people like and their price point. We already get that you're mad about your tents.
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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I just bought an 8" AC infinity inline fan because I wanted something cheap for a tent, and I liked that the temperature control was included. Honestly I was expecting it to be much higher quality due to all the hype I have heard over ACI's products. The build quality isnt even close to being on par with a Max-Fan or a Hyper-Fan. Thin single layer metal housing, blades seem more cheaply made etc. It does offer a lot of controllability for the price though, and I am pleased with its performance in the application I bought it for (venting a 4x8 tent). It does have an annoying motor whine though that none of my other fans have, not sure if that is normal or not. Like I said its a good fan for the price I paid for it ($150) but if your expecting it to be comparable in quality to top tier fans you will be disappointed.
I haven't had this issue with mine. I've got T6 and S6's and my internal ventilation fans (Honeywell) are the loudest of the setup. I may have just gotten lucky.
 

Lenin1917

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Lot of hype for a little fan, I’m sure it’s fine but for $50 I can get a nice oscillating tower fan at Walmart or 2 at Ollie’s
Nothing against ac infinity I have one of their tents, it’s nice it does the job.
 
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GroBud

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Growbuds has them for 30 bucks. Bought mine before ac came out with those. I do use ac tents the 1in poles it was hard finding a fan that would fit but wasn't over 50 bucks. Nm price has been changed to 39.99
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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Lot of hype for a little fan, I’m sure it’s fine but for $50 I can get a nice oscillating tower fan at Walmart or 2 at Ollie’s
Nothing against ac infinity I have one of their tents, it’s nice it does the job.
I think it's more about the connectivity than otherwise. What AC Infinity does well is their controllers, etc.

I have a 6" oscillating fan that has literally lasted me about 25 years but is a bit clunky in mounting with it's clip and is a bit noisy now. I have 2 of those Honeywell 6" fans flown in my tent on each side and controlled by smart outlets to alternate...but I'd love to use a single controller with WIFI connectivity to program up what everything is doing without needing much out-board gear.

I have the Controller 67 and while it's definitely a step up from the original digital controller, the 69 w/ WIFI allows 4 independent control channels, which would give me control over both my ventilation fans (intake & exhaust) at slightly different rates to maintain negative pressure, then control over circulation fans. Having the controller with WIFI would mean that I can remove the other WIFI thermometer/hygrometer from my tent, and remove the app from my phone, thus streamlining my setup a bit.
 

Lenin1917

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Does their t series run continuously and just adjust speed based on humidity or does it cut on and off? I like to maintain constant air exchange. I’m a cheap ass so right now it’s a vivosun 8in, which does the job well enough but in one or two harvests I’ll be moving out the 8x4 into an 8x8 and with more space comes more plants comes more humidity :weed:
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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I get it, I’m just home all the time so my Bluetooth hygrometer does the job. Little mf was only $13 too. And it can control their humidifier and dehumidifier( that’ll be my next upgrade)
Yep, I have basically the same one as hygrometer/thermometer in my tent that's WIFI. I also have sensors for the AC Infinity controller, one for the Inkbird humidity controller, and yet another for the Inkbird heater controller that also happens to be WIFI. I'd love to limit the 'sensor clutter' to as few as possible!

With the return of office work (we're flexing at 3 days in office, two days at home) the fact that the ACI controller is Bluetooth only is starting to wear on me...I can make adjustments to my setup when I'm at home when I get a heat/humidity alert, but I can't do the same when I'm at the office or away from the house for a day or more.

Once I started with the Blumat Tropf system, really the only thing I open the tent for is to inspect the plants daily...and my plants seem to be better off for less interaction and a more stable environment.

I like that the new controller also allows for lighting adjustments, but I'm entirely happy with the HLG lighting and not looking to re-buy lights given the ~800 I've already spent on decent lighting. Also, the real key to having a system that does lights would be to have one that has a quality quantum sensor so that you could program in not only timing but actual umol DLI settings along the way and have the unit to real-time automatic light adjustment.
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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Does their t series run continuously and just adjust speed based on humidity or does it cut on and off? I like to maintain constant air exchange. I’m a cheap ass so right now it’s a vivosun 8in, which does the job well enough but in one or two harvests I’ll be moving out the 8x4 into an 8x8 and with more space comes more plants comes more humidity :weed:
I think the T series now comes with the Controller 67 which allows for a minimum base level (either off or you pick whatever default speed you want as your 'resting' speed. From there you can set your temp and humidity triggers and you pick the ramp-up transtions. So for instance, mine is set to a baseline of speed #2 at rest, then if the temp hits 84 it notches up the fan, and for each degree another speed until it knocks the temp down where it backs off the same way. It does the same for humidity, pick the %RH and it'll ramp up or down accordingly and you can set the transition in 2% increments.

Another nice feature is that it now also calculates VPD as well and graphs that, and allows for your offset for leaf surface temperature to make sure its pretty accurate. In my case I have it -2f degrees, since my LST is 2.5f below ambient.

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watsongreenthumb

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I haven't had this issue with mine. I've got T6 and S6's and my internal ventilation fans (Honeywell) are the loudest of the setup. I may have just gotten lucky.
Good to know that they don't all make the whining noise, I may dive deeper into mine and see if I can pinpoint the issue, but its honestly not a big deal, just something to note. The controllability and built in logging is really great for the price, probably the best option I have seen for a low cost ventilated setup. I have been toying with the idea of using a variable speed fan to cool a normally sealed flower room in the winter, with the idea that since the outside temps are in the 30's and 40's here for several months I could save on ac and some dehumidification costs by using a "smart" fan. I figure it would not take very much air exchange with air that cold to cool it, so I could still run co2 if I used a burner piped into my natural gas. would probably use more gas than normal but I think the electricity savings from not running air conditioning and using less dehumidification would offset this. I tried it once roughly 10 years back with a couple centrifugal fans that were switched on and off by a controller if the temps reached the setpoint, but there was too much variability in the outdoor temperatures for it to keep tight control of the environment, and the area I lived then was much warmer and more humid even in the winter so the fans had to run most of the lights on time to cool it, so running co2 was out. Also the outdoor humidity was high and all over the place so the dehumidifier actually had to work harder than when it was sealed. That was with hps lights though, the led's I have now produce less heat and I run the temps hotter so in theory I think it should work.

What size tent are you runnning your t6's and s6's in? are you using one for intake and one for exhaust? I am still dialing in the settings on the t8 in my new 4x8, I would like to run as much airflow as possible through the bottom vents as it seems like a great way to get some under canopy ventilation. However with the t8 cranked up and everything sealed up but the mesh vents there is huge negative pressure, like to the point I worry it could be detrimental to the lifespan of the tent. I havent moved plants in there yet as I am still testing different combinations of lights and fan speeds/ temperature. anyways I am interested in your setup, I have never really grown in a tent before and while it has some advantages there are some unique challenges as well.
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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Good to know that they don't all make the whining noise, I may dive deeper into mine and see if I can pinpoint the issue, but its honestly not a big deal, just something to note. The controllability and built in logging is really great for the price, probably the best option I have seen for a low cost ventilated setup. I have been toying with the idea of using a variable speed fan to cool a normally sealed flower room in the winter, with the idea that since the outside temps are in the 30's and 40's here for several months I could save on ac and some dehumidification costs by using a "smart" fan. I figure it would not take very much air exchange with air that cold to cool it, so I could still run co2 if I used a burner piped into my natural gas. would probably use more gas than normal but I think the electricity savings from not running air conditioning and using less dehumidification would offset this. I tried it once roughly 10 years back with a couple centrifugal fans that were switched on and off by a controller if the temps reached the setpoint, but there was too much variability in the outdoor temperatures for it to keep tight control of the environment, and the area I lived then was much warmer and more humid even in the winter so the fans had to run most of the lights on time to cool it, so running co2 was out. Also the outdoor humidity was high and all over the place so the dehumidifier actually had to work harder than when it was sealed. That was with hps lights though, the led's I have now produce less heat and I run the temps hotter so in theory I think it should work.

What size tent are you runnning your t6's and s6's in? are you using one for intake and one for exhaust? I am still dialing in the settings on the t8 in my new 4x8, I would like to run as much airflow as possible through the bottom vents as it seems like a great way to get some under canopy ventilation. However with the t8 cranked up and everything sealed up but the mesh vents there is huge negative pressure, like to the point I worry it could be detrimental to the lifespan of the tent. I havent moved plants in there yet as I am still testing different combinations of lights and fan speeds/ temperature. anyways I am interested in your setup, I have never really grown in a tent before and while it has some advantages there are some unique challenges as well.
My tent is fairly small... the rough equivalent of a 4x4, though it's 5x3 (to fit the space I have.

But yes, I have the T6 for exhaust up above (in tent), with a Terrabloom filter in front of it, then it ducts out the tent and to a basement level window (about 4' of ducting).

I have the S6 down at the bottom as an intake (outside the tent, with a bit of duct on each side of the fan). For that setup I need the S6 to run damped back a bit so it doesn't create positive pressure in the tent. I use MERV13 filter fabric over the open intake duct to not only filter the dust/dirt out of the air, but to reduce the airflow to keep the negative pressure. Depending on if I use 1 layer or a couple layers I can damp down the intake airflow though the fans are using the same settings with the Controller 67.

This with the 67 gives a reasonable amount of control over the grow environment, given I don't have AC. During the winter I have a small in-tent humidifier, then during the hotter weather when it's humid I run dehumidifiers in the 'lung room' (actually the whole basement level) where I want to control humidity up or down seasonally and not just for plants...we have a music room/studio space that holds my guitars, basses, amplification gear and electronics; a fairly decent ceramics studio & a large room for storage. I try to keep that floor in the 40-45 range which is comfortable for instruments, ceramics drying as well as giving the tent drier air when the fans kick in stronger.

In terms of running an in-duct with really cold air...that may cause you humidity issues. Cold air meeting hot creates condensation, so something to consider. Also, I use a backdraft damper on my exhaust duct at the window. That guarantees that cold air doesn't enter my exit, should weather conditions and air pressure push cold air in my exit.

Either way, the only time I really have difficulty in controlling conditions is the middle of summer when you're just dealing with lots of ambient heat and humidity.
 

DirtyJerzey

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i have a couple 6” honeywells hung in my tent…even at low setting they’re stronger than I like, so I’ve damped them down with gaffers tape. Still willing to give these a shot if they’re not gale-force. A pair of them oscillating all the time or alternating still looks pretty good.
How do you know about Gaffers Tape? That stuff is like gold on-site, and almost no one outside the industry knows how amazing it is.
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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How do you know about Gaffers Tape? That stuff is like gold on-site, and almost no one outside the industry knows how amazing it is.
I've spent part of my life as a touring musician. I keep a big roll of standard black gaffers tape around and I have a roll of 1" white that's perfect for labeling things with (both on the road and at home.
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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Makes sense! I used to build Broadway shows and am also a Union Stagehand as a side gig. I love me some gaffers tape.
I know a handful of stagehands in different strata...and also a few guys who worked steel...that shit scares me. As a player and also tour manager I always carried a pretty sizable 'in case of' gig kit, even though we were supposed to be provided with everything we'd need besides our amps/instruments. I was the guy that everyone ran to when something didn't work or they forgot whatever.

Though the best gigs were the ones where I was hired in as a fill in or temp band and they'd fly me wherever take care of all backline, instruments if we wanted and of course room/board. I'd travel with a case over my shoulder and a backpack.
 
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