adding sugur to your water!!!

sir smokesalot

sir smokesalot

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i continue to use it in the last couple weeks and have been very happy since i started using it. i use it during veg sometimes to make sure that i dont have any defficencies. its a good source of magnesium and calcium too.

i use blackstrap molasses btw not sugar. you get the same carb boost but it is also high in P or K i forget. as well as the aformentioned cal and mag.
 
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techhead420

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O4aUsErNaMe said:
so is nature.

but it is pretty hard to boost co2 when you grow outdoors,
plus the fact that most of the carbs in the ground have already been burnt of in the growing of the plant.
so the molasses is just an efficient way to boost the carb level at the very moment the plant needs it the most.:hump:
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Still, is there any empirical evidence, scientific study etc that demonstrates that the sugar molecule can actually be taken up by the root system. I tried doing a google search and I found nothing besides marketing hype and anecdotes. This strikes me as just another urban legend. At no time in my botany classes, for example, was it ever mentioned that any thing besides various mineral salts, even then only in ionic form, can be taken up and transported via the plants xylem.

I've found not one shred of evidence to support this technique.
 
FilthyFletch

FilthyFletch

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Never ever use sugar or brown sugar as the stuff is "dirty " and attacks insects.Diluted black strap mollasse of 2 tablespoons per gallon disolved in warm water is fine and will help give the needed carbs to produce more resin. Never use molasses in an aero setup .you can buy products such as sugar daddy,sweet,or sweet leaf that are molasses derived and premixed.Use only every other watering
 
O4aUsErNaMe

O4aUsErNaMe

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techhead420 said:
Still, is there any empirical evidence, scientific study etc that demonstrates that the sugar molecule can actually be taken up by the root system. I tried doing a google search and I found nothing besides marketing hype and anecdotes. This strikes me as just another urban legend. At no time in my botany classes, for example, was it ever mentioned that any thing besides various mineral salts, even then only in ionic form, can be taken up and transported via the plants xylem.

I've found not one shred of evidence to support this technique.
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well then i guess it must be bullshit,so dont do it ..:-)

but on the other hand when i was told about it ten years ago i thought to myself i will do it and see.
so i put the same soil in the two pots two plants that were the same strain from the same plant.
they were feed the same till flowering ,and one was fed seasol and molasses,and the other was fed just seasol.
and i noticed a marked differance in size and weight..
now i know this is not real scientific but i feel it works and for me that is all that matters.
 
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techhead420

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O4aUsErNaMe said:
well then i guess it must be bullshit,so dont do it ..:-)

but on the other hand when i was told about it ten years ago i thought to myself i will do it and see.
so i put the same soil in the two pots two plants that were the same strain from the same plant.
they were feed the same till flowering ,and one was fed seasol and molasses,and the other was fed just seasol.
and i noticed a marked differance in size and weight..
now i know this is not real scientific but i feel it works and for me that is all that matters.
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Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to find out the truth. I actually asked the sugar question to some "ask a scientist" web sites.

Sugars do exist in soil but almost all of it is consumed by bacteria and so far I can't find a single credible (scientific) source that can back the claim of sugar uptake with empiricism

http://www.ar.wroc.pl/~weber/no.htm
 
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sir smokesalot

sir smokesalot

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how is that working for you? i actually more meant DWC, or bubbler systems, aero too but i imagine anyone using aero would probably know that.:mrgreen:
 
ThatGuy1985

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I am very happy with what i have come out with i really don't have a "real" light i use a 70w hps and 8 23w cfls this is what her cola is looking like as of a few days ago. It is actually really cool i have my cola growing into my hps it is only about 2 inches from the bulb and no burns. the second pic is what she looked like on the 20th of last month
 

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techhead420 said:
Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to find out the truth. I actually asked the sugar question to some "ask a scientist" web sites.

Sugars do exist in soil but almost all of it is consumed by bacteria and so far I can't find a single credible (scientific) source that can back the claim of sugar uptake with empiricism

http://www.ar.wroc.pl/~weber/no.htm
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you could always just buy a bottle of a carbo nutes from the hydro shop and throw it in your res, all of them are derived from cane sugar or molasses and if you don't see a difference almost all hydro nutes come with a money back garuntee i mean you do say you get ounces every month so in 3 months you will know
 
ThatGuy1985

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you could but you want to use it when you are in flower because it is said carbs make dense buds. I wouldn't bother in veg
 
Ravioli

Ravioli

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techhead420 said:
Does anyone have any proof of this technique beyond anecdotes of "buds swelling" and the like.

If you want to increase the sugar content of your plants then pump up the CO2.

simplified photosynthesis equation:

6 H2O + 6 CO2 + light energy = C6H12O6 (ie. sugar) + 6 O2

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Who invited Isaac Newton? ;)
 
makinthemagic

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techhead420 said:
Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to find out the truth. I actually asked the sugar question to some "ask a scientist" web sites.

Sugars do exist in soil but almost all of it is consumed by bacteria and so far I can't find a single credible (scientific) source that can back the claim of sugar uptake with empiricism

http://www.ar.wroc.pl/~weber/no.htm
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that's the point. the sugar in the soil will set off a feeding and breeding frenzy among the bacteria that are already living in the soil. Just like cows poop and that fertilizes plants, bacteria poop and fertilize plants.
 
GrnMan

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I used molasses the last three weeks of 12/12. I used 2 table spoons per gallon of water. It increased bud density by about 30 percent.

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