Advanced Nutrients

tSunami13

Active Member
i tried to do my own side by side, Canna vs. AN, but not one shop will honor A.N.'s money back if you dont see better results deal, so i backed out. the money back thing is a scam.

the nutrient challange video looks the exact opposite of scientific, its pretty ghetto. It doesnt explain any details, some of the shots are takin up against a fence in someones backyard which seems a bit odd to me, and the worst part is they dont have the correct nutes in the pics! Example: in the canna pic, it has the wrong nutes, not canna nutes, and i didnt ever see any bottles of canna nutes anywhere. im pretty sure they used the same bottles for dutch masters pics as they did for canna. idk something seems off.
So you would buy canna with no money back offer but not AN? Doesn't make sense. I myself don't look to buy things for refunds, but I do buy for quality.:peace: Yeah that video is off for sure. I think they took some of AN's buds and put them in the other guys totals to make them feel better. That's just my O. I wasn't there. lmao.
 

jberry

Well-Known Member
So you would buy canna with no money back offer but not AN? Doesn't make sense. I myself don't look to buy things for refunds, but I do buy for quality.:peace: Yeah that video is off for sure. I think they took some of AN's buds and put them in the other guys totals to make them feel better. That's just my O. I wasn't there. lmao.
exactly, i would buy a product with 20 + years of great reviews (canna) without any worry. + i'm already using canna, its not like i'm trying to decided between the 2.
i just am sick of hearing about A.N. and wanted to be able to speak from actual experience when i say that they wont improve shit if your already using a top of the line nutrient company like Van De Zwaan House & Garden or Canna. I personally think u wouldnt see much of any difference accept in your pocket, time, and shelf space.

but A.N. has a lot of not so great reviews, coming from reliable sources.

i think the fact that all the hydro shops wont honor A.N.'s guarantee 4 better results, shows you what the store owners think about A.N. -( that its not actually gunna give improvements over most companies, so why would they honor it??)

i had 5 different hydro stores laugh in my face when i told them i wanted to do a side by side with A.N. vs. Canna...
Everyone in the industry is sick of A.N. crossing the line with their b.s. claims... and you can not go from 1 pounds to 2 pounds by switching from canna to a.n. !!!

i was only gunna waste my time and $ on the side by side if i could get my moneyback at the end and use it to buy my usual Canna Coco nutes.

if you buy for quality, than switch to H&G or Canna, (they use pharmacuticle grade ingredients.)
 

tSunami13

Active Member
jberry, I am not against any of the other companies out there. I guess I am just not buying into their hype. I like AN, it works for me. I am not for them being expensive but if you know anything about these products there is a pretty steep markup on all of them. A good 50-100% on some of the stuff. Sometimes the hydro stores want to charge more just because it is AN and that is crap, but the owners like to make money off of the customers. Canna claims to use pharmaceuticals as well as AN. I have not been to either place. So one ad is better then the other? I am up for giving the small guy a shot. GH is huge, Botanicare is huge, and they make all kinds of stuff that I do use but not especially their nutes. Last time I checked H&G was one of the more expensive nutes out there. AN is just not afraid to be associated with pot. Canna is, and has a disclaimer on its US site. That doesn't mean it won't grow pot now does it?
 

jberry

Well-Known Member
jberry, I am not against any of the other companies out there. I guess I am just not buying into their hype. I like AN, it works for me. I am not for them being expensive but if you know anything about these products there is a pretty steep markup on all of them. A good 50-100% on some of the stuff. Sometimes the hydro stores want to charge more just because it is AN and that is crap, but the owners like to make money off of the customers. Canna claims to use pharmaceuticals as well as AN. I have not been to either place. So one ad is better then the other? I am up for giving the small guy a shot. GH is huge, Botanicare is huge, and they make all kinds of stuff that I do use but not especially their nutes. Last time I checked H&G was one of the more expensive nutes out there. AN is just not afraid to be associated with pot. Canna is, and has a disclaimer on its US site. That doesn't mean it won't grow pot now does it?
haha, what hype do the other companies have? A.N. is the only company that tries to hype up their company to the point that its funny. and guess what? you did buy into it.
you like A.N. bcuz theyre not afraid to be associated with pot? or bcuz you like the cool names of the 400 products they dont need to have that are totally overpriced and broken down into 400 puzzle pieces? regardless of them being good quality or not, you bought into paying more $ for reasons i think are obvious.

if A.N., Canna, H&G, and a few others i'm sure, all use the same quality grade ingredients, then why would you use A.N. when they cost more and have everything seperated out for no reason?

because that works for you?

you dont think A.N. is selling people hype??
well, here's the label off A.N. "Bud Candy"... you tell me if this isnt a bunch of b.s. hype, with no actual real info at all. you would never ever ever see something like this on any other companies bottle!

so here it is:
BUD CANDY:
IMAGINE BACK IN YOUR PAST WHEN YOU WERE A KID AT THE COUNTY FAIR EATING COTTON CANDY. IT WAS PURE DELIGHT THAT MELTED IN YOUR MOUTH LEAVING YOUR FINGERS STICKY AND GOOEY! THAT SWEET DELICIOUS TASTE AND THOSE SMELLS IT DROVE YOU CRAZY! NOT ONLY DID IT SMELL AND TASTE DELICIOUS YOU GOT AN IMMEDIATE BOLT OF ENERGY FROM ALL THAT SUGAR THAT RUSHED THROUGH YOUR VEINS! NOW ITS TIME TO BRING ALL OF THAT SAME GOOD AND SWEET STUFF HOME TO YOUR PLANTS!

...come on now!! ... it even comes with a shiny glitter label !

they are a good quality, but everyone that uses them should demand they continue to combine their products (which they are finally starting to do) and lower their prices. and i wish they would stop making promises they cant keep, whether its a money back guarantee of doubling your yield.
 

jberry

Well-Known Member
whatever i shouldnt come on the A.N. thread and bash them. and im sure they give good results.
i was even gunna try them, but thats when i thought i could try them risk free, which was perfect since im skeptical, but that's out the window so i'll stick to my canna.

you A.N. boys and girls be careful out there.
 

tSunami13

Active Member
Hey jberry, you can follow along and see what is reported. I really don't think people here get paid or sponsored but it seems like it sometimes. As I understand it you just have an untested opinion. I have been using AN and am liking what I am seeing. When I was looking at nutes first off I didn't want to go with some "mega corporate" company such as GH or Botanicare. My opinion is that those mega corps aren't focusing on quality they are after quantity and taking everyones money. When was the last time you were in a shop and didn't see GH? Never. It's just like cockroaches you'll never get rid of it. I looked at quality and that included House and Garden, way too expensive, Canna, AN, and some of the small guys out of NorCal. NorCal just to unproven for me, known for great pot but not nutes. So that left me Canna and AN. AN along with GW pharmaceuticals are the only two companies in the world that are government licensed to grow and research pot. Canna doesn't. Canna is named after a lilly. I'm guessing you can grow some killer lillies. So that left me with the marketing genius of AN. A company that makes nutes for pot, not lilies, not tomatoes, not anything else but pot. AN does have some slick labels, look how upset you got reading it, I started drooling myself cause those descriptions go great with pot. Just look at the seed companies and pot descriptions they are endless!! Plus I really don't like silly little disclaimers like Canna has on their site about illegal activities! That disclaimer is great for 13 year old kiddies. I am grown, know what is right and wrong, and have nobody telling me what to do. I also like my money to go to things I support. AN supports marijuana, and so do I, so I support AN. I like lilies but not enough to support them. I am about legalizing marijuana not running from it, hiding from it, or pretending its something else. So when it comes time to really legalize it I would expect AN to be there to help, and I would suspect that Canna will still be selling lily fertilizer. You should tell Canna to get rid of the disclaimer cause it ain't working, might lower advertising cost! :peace:
 

jberry

Well-Known Member
Hey jberry, you can follow along and see what is reported. I really don't think people here get paid or sponsored but it seems like it sometimes. As I understand it you just have an untested opinion. I have been using AN and am liking what I am seeing. When I was looking at nutes first off I didn't want to go with some "mega corporate" company such as GH or Botanicare. My opinion is that those mega corps aren't focusing on quality they are after quantity and taking everyones money. When was the last time you were in a shop and didn't see GH? Never. It's just like cockroaches you'll never get rid of it. I looked at quality and that included House and Garden, way too expensive, Canna, AN, and some of the small guys out of NorCal. NorCal just to unproven for me, known for great pot but not nutes. So that left me Canna and AN. AN along with GW pharmaceuticals are the only two companies in the world that are government licensed to grow and research pot. Canna doesn't. Canna is named after a lilly. I'm guessing you can grow some killer lillies. So that left me with the marketing genius of AN. A company that makes nutes for pot, not lilies, not tomatoes, not anything else but pot. AN does have some slick labels, look how upset you got reading it, I started drooling myself cause those descriptions go great with pot. Just look at the seed companies and pot descriptions they are endless!! Plus I really don't like silly little disclaimers like Canna has on their site about illegal activities! That disclaimer is great for 13 year old kiddies. I am grown, know what is right and wrong, and have nobody telling me what to do. I also like my money to go to things I support. AN supports marijuana, and so do I, so I support AN. I like lilies but not enough to support them. I am about legalizing marijuana not running from it, hiding from it, or pretending its something else. So when it comes time to really legalize it I would expect AN to be there to help, and I would suspect that Canna will still be selling lily fertilizer. You should tell Canna to get rid of the disclaimer cause it ain't working, might lower advertising cost! :peace:
1. H&G is way cheaper than A.N. or Canna so your wrong on that.
2. if A.N. changed their name to Marijuana Nutrients you would probably pay more bcuz your a moron.
3. you actually admit to falling for the marketing on the label.
4. i couldnt even finish reading your post bcuz your right, you do seem like you work for A.N. and get paid to make posts and most experienced growers know that an is no better than others. period.
5. why do u insist on talking about GH and Botinicare???? i dont give a fuck.
6. wake up.

please dont respond... unsubscribed.
 

potpimp

Sector 5 Moderator
I have to agree with Jberry too. If you guys want to waste your money and spend a few hours a week playing chemist then go for it. You'll eventually come to the same realization that we came to: you've been had by the hype.
 

1ostbo1z

Member
Just starting a thread to see what everyone thinks about Advanced Nutrients.

I like their nutes.

What is your favorite additive from AN?

Bud candy gets my vote.
sorry if im stealing your thread but i dont see ne good answers to your question. i want to know what people think as well but it doesn't get to that and someone has to come along and messes everything up. sorry
 

potpimp

Sector 5 Moderator
sorry if im stealing your thread but i dont see ne good answers to your question. i want to know what people think as well but it doesn't get to that and someone has to come along and messes everything up. sorry
Ohhhhhhh you just want to hear the good stuff. Sorry, I thought he was asking for peoples actual experiences with the stuff and since I had wasted $500 on Advanced Nutes and had actually grown a crop to maturity with them, I was qualified to answer his question. Please forgive me for intruding; I'll be lurking in the Cana / Iconic / Dutch Masters "Cheap nutes that give better results" forum. Y'all have a nice day.
 

tSunami13

Active Member
It's okay that potpimp dropped by. I am open to all real experiences. potpimp has used the nutes so that info is cool. The problem that I have is the noob's that "have heard so and so" and just don't have a clue. I am not saying other stuff doesn't work. I don't want to use the other stuff. Some like Bud, some like MGD.

Ok, AN is competitively priced with the others. 3 part 35 dollars give or take. The other's can be from 20-50. Done, nothing else needed. Take the 2 part $34. $68 for a grow. Others from $22-$32. $44-$64 A grow. So not much price difference.

Now yes if you want to get off into the supplements there is a whole load of them. Most companies offer similar products. They are not required but they do add to the grow. Now how, that can be debated. Same with the cfl/hps/mh/led/plasma lighting issue. What works the best? Get in a group of people and order one pizza and try to satisfy everyone!

So anyway, this forum is for actual users of the AN line. Past, Present and (Future users with questions). Good or bad. Now second hand and beyond information does no one any good. Everyone can bash something, not here to do that!!! Just here to share experiences. Not what my friend did, or anything like that cause there is always more to the story. Too many variables to list! So everyone is welcome to share there knowledge here. If anyone would like to have a discussion on why they think it is hype that is ok too, just keep it polite. I am up for a discussion, but there is no need to bash anyone or thing! :peace:
 

jberry

Well-Known Member
i cant resist telling you that im not a noob, since i believe your talking about me (im the only other one who doesnt agree with you, so it must be me).
I'm a second generation grower that has been growing for 14 years, i was taught how to grow by my father (a horticulturist) and about seven years ago i was re-taught by someone who has been featured in high times every few months for the last 8 years.
you are a bubble head growing in a tent, big deal. your the one that needs experience... i say to hell with your thread, how much is A.N. paying you to drop ads on here?

potpimp is a pimp!
 

tSunami13

Active Member
Oh welcome back! Probably not as much as you get paid by canna. And my background third generation chemist, with a few botanist thrown in for good measure. So we know nothing. What is this high times you speak of?
 

jberry

Well-Known Member
chemist! no wonder you like A>N> ... you get to play chemist.
gimmie a break tent boy.

and yea, canna does kick me down free 5 liters! so what?
 

jberry

Well-Known Member
fyi... ive gotton a lot of free stuff from H&G also.

thats what serious companies do for serious growers.
 

tSunami13

Active Member
ok dingle berry what are you still around for? I thought I wiped better! sounds like your a mooch! yeah give product away go out of business. makes sense if your a kid and can't afford to play! And how long do your little freebies last you noob? The damn samples I get would last maybe a week. Oh lets get ready to harvest grams! lol noob! Nothing wrong with having to give your product away especially when it doesn't sell. Hey kid stop showing your inexperience and move along. Every time you type it goes to show that your nothing more than a 3rd or 39th generation noob like you said. lmao :peace:
 

jberry

Well-Known Member
ok dingle berry what are you still around for? I thought I wiped better! sounds like your a mooch! yeah give product away go out of business. makes sense if your a kid and can't afford to play! And how long do your little freebies last you noob? The damn samples I get would last maybe a week. Oh lets get ready to harvest grams! lol noob! Nothing wrong with having to give your product away especially when it doesn't sell. Hey kid stop showing your inexperience and move along. Every time you type it goes to show that your nothing more than a 3rd or 39th generation noob like you said. lmao :peace:
i saw your set up in your pics dipshit.
and it speaks for itself.

fyi, you can have 99 plants where i live. does that sound like gram status to you bubble head? i saw what u got (nothin much) but u have know fuckin clue what im about.

and to answer your question, i use about 3000 gallons of feed water every 8 weeks, so im pretty sure i use more nutrients than u do in your tent.

just fuckin get over it kook. im done with ur shit!
 

tSunami13

Active Member
i saw your set up in your pics dipshit.
and it speaks for itself.

fyi, you can have 99 plants where i live. does that sound like gram status to you bubble head? i saw what u got (nothin much) but u have know fuckin clue what im about.

and to answer your question, i use about 3000 gallons of feed water every 8 weeks, so im pretty sure i use more nutrients than u do in your tent.

just fuckin get over it kook. im done with ur shit!
oh yeah I use 50 gazillion gallons. gimme a break son. hey, son it's your bedtime. I heard your mommy calling ya. Do you hear a lot of echos? pull your head out of your A**! Good to hear you know everything about me, but it really does sound like your a little kiddie! Like I said you prove it more and more every time you type. Do you like leather? Cause you sure do stick your foot in your mouth. move along dingleberry. go down the drain :peace:
 

Karloff

Member
If you and Dingleberry are quite done waving your sabres around I'd like to ask a question (just kidding):-P
I bought both Sensi Grow and Sensi Bloom for my first grow in my Bubbleponics system and am using CFL's not HPS or MH because I don't like hot lights or lights that Ive seen explode not a desireable quality in a light fixture (That was the electrician in me speaking) so my question is do I need to add additional supplements to the res ?
If so what ?
Also has anybody used Sensi Grow and Sensi Bloom?
I've been looking for an Advanced Nutrients thread and I hope this one will help.
And I was only joking about the sabre waving thing.
Thanks Bill
 

tSunami13

Active Member
If you and Dingleberry are quite done waving your sabres around I'd like to ask a question (just kidding):-P
I bought both Sensi Grow and Sensi Bloom for my first grow in my Bubbleponics system and am using CFL's not HPS or MH because I don't like hot lights or lights that Ive seen explode not a desireable quality in a light fixture (That was the electrician in me speaking) so my question is do I need to add additional supplements to the res ?
If so what ?
Also has anybody used Sensi Grow and Sensi Bloom?
I've been looking for an Advanced Nutrients thread and I hope this one will help.
And I was only joking about the sabre waving thing.
Thanks Bill
Used both sensi grow and bloom. You can add supplements but they are not required. If supplements are added go with big bud and voodoo juice.
 
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