smokinrav
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Really? You'd be shocked to hear what happened with ISIS in Iraq then.i don't think anybody expected Kabul to be over-run in 11 days by the taliban.
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Really? You'd be shocked to hear what happened with ISIS in Iraq then.i don't think anybody expected Kabul to be over-run in 11 days by the taliban.
And the US with the expectation of the Afghan army being defeated after holding out for a couple of months. Pretty sure the though mad its way through the Afghans in power. So do you put up a good fight knowing you will lose with the loses involved? Or do you concede and go home? Iraq was ridiculous, Afghanistan was more pragmatic.Really? You'd be shocked to hear what happened in Iraq then.
Not so sure. They've locked horns before. But if they say clear of stepping on Taliban toes.....well.Taliban will hunt these dudes down and slaughter them all on spot… of course just like in Libya I’m sure air strikes will come raining down on anyone that stops ISIS … Israel is desperate to keep the US in the Middle East
Israel is our Pit Bull. WE say "O.K. go!" They'll go and G*D help anybody in their way.Israel is desperate to keep the US in the Middle East
And do what? You give phrases with no real meaning to what you would think one would need to do to shine.
Well I personally pray that he does not give into the hawks and prolong this nonsense any longer. going after these terrorists is not worth the money. Take that money and give it to the families. Get them later, let them relax. But yeah, to me shining would be by not giving into the hawks.And do what? You give phrases with no real meaning to what you would think one would need to do to shine.
They only take direction from the US if it is in alignment with what they want. They will act in their own interest, the US be damned.Israel is our Pit Bull. WE say "O.K. go!" They'll go and G*D help anybody in their way.
See this is what I am missing. Why the fck are there so many Americans and foreigners there when they knew the deadline anyway? They knew this shit for how long? Seems like forever ago but with COVID my sense of time is shit. Obviously most of these people are natives with green cards etc, read about one family who went to visit their in-laws. Who the hell told them to wait till the last minute?Foreign policy? This is not a “foreign policy” issue. You mean command of the US military? The commander in chief is fully responsible for the command of the military. He is the absolute top commanding officer we all obey and take orders from under UCMJ
You really think after this shit show, which could have been entirely avoided, its instilling confidence in foreign leaders/allies? The UK was kept completely in the dark, not to mention multiple other countries with citizens in Afghanistan who have frantically reacted to the lack of planning.
No matter your politics this is absolutely the first and foremost responsibility of the commander in chief (command of the military and defense of the nation’s citizens)
And the other half of the country will say he is too soft, letting a little girl strapped with explosives to humiliate the US. No, a bomb or two will be dropping in on ISIS and I will applaud that. Far better a plane overhead rather than boots on the ground. If there is no retaliation it will show other terorists the US is soft under Biden. That will cost more in the long run.Well I personally pray that he does not give into the hawks and prolong this nonsense any longer. going after these terrorists is not worth the money. Take that money and give it to the families. Get them later, let them relax. But yeah, to me shining would be by not giving into the hawks.
Yeah but there is no rush. Do the intelligence and just kill them all later, probably at a big wedding.And the other half of the country will say he is too soft, letting a little girl strapped with explosives to humiliate the US. No, a bomb or two will be dropping in on ISIS and I will applaud that. Far better a plane overhead rather than boots on the ground. If there is no retaliation it will show other terorists the US is soft under Biden. That will cost more in the long run.
Lot of NGO's providing assistance. Heck, there is a former US soldier there looking after the strays.See this is what I am missing. Why the fck are there so many Americans and foreigners there when they knew the deadline anyway? They knew this shit for how long? Seems like forever ago but with COVID my sense of time is shit. Obviously most of these people are natives with green cards etc, read about one family who went to visit their in-laws. Who the hell told them to wait till the last minute?
No, no rush to jump in. Trust Biden there, he is no young pup.Yeah but there is no rush. Do the intelligence and just kill them all later, probably at a big wedding.
You really have no grasp of the nuances of the US/Israeli relationship.Israel is our Pit Bull. WE say "O.K. go!" They'll go and G*D help anybody in their way.
Yeah, one has God on their side and the other has... ...never mind.You really have no grasp of the nuances of the US/Israeli relationship.
We got almost all our equipment. The troops took it with them when they pulled out months and years ago. What was lost belongs to the Afghan government.. . . . . . . . .The failed plan and timing to first evacuate US citizens, then Afghan helpers, then US military equipment, THEN the remaining servicemen, falls solely on Biden and the advisors around him.
No, they have Europe by the balls with their gas pipelines. Why do you think no one in Europe really did anything when they invaded Crimea? It gets mighty chilly in Northern Europe in winter.. . . . . . . . The most formidable non-radioactive weapon in Russia's arsenal is the internet. . . . . . . .
How was it ever pragmatic?Afghanistan was more pragmatic.