after trying dyna gro im switching back to advanced nutrients 2 part

Fresh 2 De@th

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^ flushing when switching to flower is good keep doing that. Flushing before peak bloom is not good.

Keep salt build up down is always good. I have heard some recommend changing out nutrient formulas every time with a salt clearing formula(in hydro).
that's the thing, there wasn't any salt build up. i just did it because i hear a lot of people suggest it. for ex., when i feed at 700ppms using dyna gro my runoff comes out in the lower 500's and that's why i said there wasn't really a need to.

but now that i know not to do it before or during peak bloom i will never do it again. thanks for the solid info
 

tree king

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calmag supplement 2-0-0 helped me with dyna gro boom. Also, I think your switching to bloom to soon. Run DGgrow until you see the start of flowers (usually around week 2-3) then switch to bloom.

On a 2nd note I did get another conni (B) to continue my run and wait till you see the size of the buds I got on the plants I didnt mess up. They just try to sell you to much stuff then wont help you out when you e-mail them. Its kind of deterring.

I couldnt bring my kush plants back. I mean, they are getting nice looking flowers now but the fan leaves had already gotten irreversible damage.

Last trip to the hydro store guy was like "were running a H&G nutrient discount just fyi" so of course I couldnt resist especially since I have already been wanting to try them. Well their formula (Aqua flakes A&B) looks very similar to a.n conni a&b. They dont sell you a ton of bottles. And they respond to email with knowledgeable help, usually the same day! They have normal and aggressive feeding charts so you dont scorch your plants. (a.n really needs to work on their feeding chart, mix to that and you have fire water!!) My HG plants and roots couldnt look better. My roots are completely white and my node spacing seems more compact. Some may say their npk value is skimp. But it doesnt take much to bring the ppm up so theres something in there. lol. Whatever it is my plants are loving it. Their drip clean is awesome and has a lot of p/k. Although its only used in a very small amount, everything counts. No chunky bottles, no calmag supplement, no calmag deficiencies (so far) white roots healthy plants and a easy to work with formula, I likee.
thats nice to hear that you got the conni dialed in now what ec are you at? can you please let us now how the final yield and quality compared with h&g? o i almost forgot did you find the need to use cal mag with AN? hellraizer the moderator in the hydro forum says deficiencies always show if your using AN without calmag. ever since i heard that im thinking about adding it in as one of my additives. i also remember scooby uses calmag and his plants look off the hook

Fresh 2 De@th i hope everything works out for you as far as plant health goes. i got a feeling your gonna be switching back to gh real soon i wasnt feeling dg at all on all levels
 

Fresh 2 De@th

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@Tree King- you might be right on that one. right after i brought the dyna gro i bumped into another established grower that passed on some solid info for gh 3part, but by the time i received it i had already brought into the dyna gro. i figured since i brought it i mine as well use it, but things are not looking to good as of now. the only problem that i had with the gh 3part was rapid salt build up, it was like i had to routinely flush while using it.
there's a lot of shit with this dyna gro solution. for instance, i turned my bottle upside down earlier today and heard what sound like a bunch of little rocks was in there, so i shook it lightly to make sure i wasn't bugging and sure enough i wasn't bugging. that has yet to happen with my gh 3part. you switch from veg nutes to bloom nutes and all hell breaks loose and it goes on and on.
tbh though i don't like to give up, i like to make the best of any situation so i might just finish out what i got with the new found info from my research. maybe things will turn around, at least im hoping so.
 

tree king

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@Tree King- you might be right on that one. right after i brought the dyna gro i bumped into another established grower that passed on some solid info for gh 3part, but by the time i received it i had already brought into the dyna gro. i figured since i brought it i mine as well use it, but things are not looking to good as of now. the only problem that i had with the gh 3part was rapid salt build up, it was like i had to routinely flush while using it.
there's a lot of shit with this dyna gro solution. for instance, i turned my bottle upside down earlier today and heard what sound like a bunch of little rocks was in there, so i shook it lightly to make sure i wasn't bugging and sure enough i wasn't bugging. that has yet to happen with my gh 3part. you switch from veg nutes to bloom nutes and all hell breaks loose and it goes on and on.
tbh though i don't like to give up, i like to make the best of any situation so i might just finish out what i got with the new found info from my research. maybe things will turn around, at least im hoping so.
yeah i hear you, you mine as we'll finish the grow with it. dyna dro is known for it crystalizing on the inside of the bottle but its not supposed to affect the nutes themselves. you may find that rocks in the bottle are the least of your problems. you may find that you could end up with some real airy foxtailling buds at harvest compared to gh. hopefully not but we'll see what happens let us know

almost forgot to ask you did you notice slower vegetative growth with dyna? my plants grew slow as shit when i used that
 

cleverpiggy

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I cant believe that people still fall for these product lines that have so many different bottles of stuff and by stuff I mean useless up-sells. Cannabis nutrient companies are ridiculous with the part a and part b with the super juice kicker and the pre-flower space tonic with the super root builder and the mid flower bud puffer upper and the pre-flush taste enhancer and finally the final flush chemical reducer taste enhancer with myco. It is a joke, how much stuff can you cram down the consumers throat. You would think that before these multi bottle, system driven nute companies existed their was no such thing as super high quality cannabis. Fact is anybody who really knows how to grow can do it with a much cheaper products. General rule of thumb if it has a cool label and fancy graphics stay away, if you cant sell your product on its performance then what do you really have.
 

tree king

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I cant believe that people still fall for these product lines that have so many different bottles of stuff and by stuff I mean useless up-sells. Cannabis nutrient companies are ridiculous with the part a and part b with the super juice kicker and the pre-flower space tonic with the super root builder and the mid flower bud puffer upper and the pre-flush taste enhancer and finally the final flush chemical reducer taste enhancer with myco. It is a joke, how much stuff can you cram down the consumers throat. You would think that before these multi bottle, system driven nute companies existed their was no such thing as super high quality cannabis. Fact is anybody who really knows how to grow can do it with a much cheaper products. General rule of thumb if it has a cool label and fancy graphics stay away, if you cant sell your product on its performance then what do you really have.
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah lol dont you guys get sick of yourselves?
 

cleverpiggy

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blah blah blah blah blah blah blah lol dont you guys get sick of yourselves?
You should concentrate on plant science more than pretty colors on bottles. But I was once a young buck like you who thought I knew it all and after wasting many many dollars I realized the only thing I was improving was another persons bottom line. Keep it simple stupid is a statement you should recognize, you already know what stupid is.
 

tree king

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You should concentrate on plant science more than pretty colors on bottles. But I was once a young buck like you who thought I knew it all and after wasting many many dollars I realized the only thing I was improving was another persons bottom line. Keep it simple stupid is a statement you should recognize, you already know what stupid is.
just like charlie brown, wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah lol keep it movin
 

tree king

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Wow that is such a compelling argument, so articulate and well thought out. I don't have a response. Well done kiddo.
try reading the fuckin thread we already talked about this. do you see the title of the thread lol? the nutes with the flashy pictures won lol
 

tree king

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Really? There was a contest between nute brands? Was that conducted by you? The same person who posted this thread at another forum: o shit i just fried the ac cord connection please help

You are definitely a competent and credible individual, Tree :lol:.
i knew you were gonna keep posting that but i could care less. to summarize it up everyone was clowning me cause i use extension cords in my grow op. i know its not recommended but you and anyone that doesnt like it can kiss my fuckin ass
 

cleverpiggy

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Try reading the fuckin thread we already talked about this. do you see the title of the thread lol? the nutes with the flashy pictures won lol


Yeah they won your money, sucker!
 

homebrewer

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i knew you were gonna keep posting that but i could care less. to summarize it up everyone was clowning me cause i use extension cords in my grow op. i know its not recommended but you and anyone that doesnt like it can kiss my fuckin ass
Actually, to sum up the thread, you almost burnt your apartment complex down. As with many of the threads you're in, you ask for advice, you neglect the good advice, then do whatever it is you originally wanted to do. YOU are your own worst enemy, Tree. The problem is, you're not smart enough to know the limits of your knowledge. I'm glad you and the people in your building are still alive.
 

tree king

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Actually, to sum up the thread, you almost burnt your apartment complex down. As with many of the threads you're in, you ask for advice, you neglect the good advice, then do whatever it is you originally wanted to do. YOU are your own worst enemy, Tree. The problem is, you're not smart enough to know the limits of your knowledge. I'm glad you and the people in your building are still alive.
almost burned the house down lol your a moron that never happened. i dont even know why your still posting in this thread cause your a proven liar. no one believes you anymore you mine as we'll change your username and try to keep your dyna gro scam goin. everyone knows you work for them its obvious
 

cleverpiggy

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almost burned the house down lol your a moron that never happened. i dont even know why your still posting in this thread cause your a proven liar. no one believes you anymore you mine as we'll change your username and try to keep your dyna gro scam goin. everyone knows you work for them its obvious
HB is telling the truth, and is far from a liar. He knows the difference between great graphics and great nutrients. It is sad that an apartment grower like yourself would question his integrity. If Dyna Grow products are a scam how do you explain their 20 plus year existence in the horticulture business.
 

tree king

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HB is telling the truth, and is far from a liar. He knows the difference between great graphics and great nutrients. It is sad that an apartment grower like yourself would question his integrity. If Dyna Grow products are a scam how do you explain their 20 plus year existence in the horticulture business.
because its meant for orchids not marijuana. ive also received countless pm's on different forums from random people who ive never even met and they all tell me he works for dyna and he's been harassing them. we've caught this dude in multiple lies before on these very forums. its all good your probably still gonna follow him like a cult anyway people love ignoring the facts
 

homebrewer

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Tree, our hobby is about so much more than plant food. One of THE most important aspects is creating a pleasant environment for our girls. You know, one that isn't engulfed in flames with squad cars and fire trucks outside. You'll be arrested or kill someone before you ever pull off a halfway decent harvest, no lie. I'd put you on my ignore list but your posts here and at ICMAG are far too entertaining. Keep up the 'great' work ;).
 

Samwell Seed Well

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almost burned the house down lol your a moron that never happened. i dont even know why your still posting in this thread cause your a proven liar. no one believes you anymore you mine as we'll change your username and try to keep your dyna gro scam goin. everyone knows you work for them its obvious
what kind of person lies about someone almost burning down at apartment complex . . . . . . .
 
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