after trying dyna gro im switching back to advanced nutrients 2 part

patlpp

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  • I am about done with a 3 way nute test: Dyna-gro, Sensi ph-perfect bloom and V&B . I have come to the conclusion that all 3 have their own positive attributes. "

    Dyna-gro (grow) with protekt: Good Bud density, needs mag (that's ok) lighter trich development(less buzz) but plant matured faster by a week (time is money), so-so taste.

    Sensi : outstanding bud density, heavy trich's, slower maturation. good taste

    V&B; good bud density, heavy trich's, slower maturation, excellent taste

    That fast maturation for Dyna surprised me so if you are a big time grower, that is probably the best attribute out of all 3 nute lines. Dyna grows awesome plants , no argument

    V&B is so easy to use. 3/4 teaspoon/gal for soil/promix/coco. No ph or tds reading just like sensi

    Airpots and Uncle Ben's 4 cola topping technique is a must. I have seen better grows with this than any nutrient line could do. Excellent volume !!​


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HeartlandHank

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tree king said:
if you increase your yield you wont give a shit about the cost. just try it one time and see if you dont like it switch back
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Definitely. I'de like to try DG one more time. I've been growing with this setup for 5 years. Previous setups before. I just saw a 20-25% increase in yield with DG over anything I have done with this setup. I wanna run DG one more time, as that was my first. I'm going to veg with the GROW and see how that goes... Following flower (Mid Feb) I'll try out AN base nutes, no additives.
 
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HeartlandHank said:
I got you. I wasn't sure what nutrients you were speaking of and I was confused. So do you only use Sensi, no additives? 1 part or 2 part?
I shouldn't have spoke on AN, because I haven't used it... but I'm questioning your per gallon costs, maybe just a little bit.
My quick math is showing that Dynagro cost me 4.4 cents per gallon in flower. I feed about 2-3 times then do straight water once.

Edit. my math suck... .0507... 5 cents per gallon. Veg about 3 cents a gallon.
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When I used Dyna I used 5ml/gal 1000ml/5ml = 200 gallons. @ 18$ liter that comes to 18/200 = 9c.
 
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HeartlandHank said:
Definitely. I'de like to try DG one more time. I've been growing with this setup for 5 years. Previous setups before. I just saw a 20-25% increase in yield with DG over anything I have done with this setup. I wanna run DG one more time, as that was my first. I'm going to veg with the GROW and see how that goes... Following flower (Mid Feb) I'll try out AN base nutes, no additives.
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its all good no rush. i highly recommend that you use big bud and overdrive with it though. it wont be a fair comparison without it cause dyna has everything in one
 
HeartlandHank

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patlpp said:

  • I am about done with a 3 way nute test: Dyna-gro, Sensi ph-perfect bloom and V&B . I have come to the conclusion that all 3 have their own positive attributes. "

    Dyna-gro (grow) with protekt: Good Bud density, needs mag (that's ok) lighter trich development(less buzz) but plant matured faster by a week (time is money), so-so taste.

    Sensi : outstanding bud density, heavy trich's, slower maturation. good taste

    V&B; good bud density, heavy trich's, slower maturation, excellent taste

    That fast maturation for Dyna surprised me so if you are a big time grower, that is probably the best attribute out of all 3 nute lines. Dyna grows awesome plants , no argument

    V&B is so easy to use. 3/4 teaspoon/gal for soil/promix/coco. No ph or tds reading just like sensi

    Airpots and Uncle Ben's 4 cola topping technique is a must. I have seen better grows with this than any nutrient line could do. Excellent volume !!​


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Nice. Sounds like you have put in some work. It looks like it's VnB I should try out perhaps.
I'm googling V&B and not finding anything. Does it go by another name?
I've got one more dyna grow to test out. I'de like to try another brand in mid February.
If DG is the lowest bud density of the three then VnB should work just fine. These DG buds are super dense. Taste can always use an improvement.
Im working on low veg times and have selected plants that fill out the canopy nicely. Topping with these genetics doesn't go so well.
 
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thanks for posting those results pat that also confirms the lower density of dyna just like i found myself

you used no additives with AN in the comparison?
 
HeartlandHank

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But I ask again how do growers make fluffy buds? What did tree do wrong?
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One thing I see in his grow is that he has a ton of lower growth that could be cleaned out and he is not maximizing the light by shaping his canopy. He is cramming plants that like to stretch into small spaces. that is a recipe for whispy buds that are crammed and not getting light.

What are you getting at? What do you think it is? DG?Maybe there are growers getting fluffy buds around... I'm just saying that I am not. This is the best indoor grow to date for me. No question. Taste is still to be determined though.

The thing is, he wouldn't know if DG produces fluffy buds because he stopped feeding with DG at 17th day of flower.

I've seen him say stuff in threads that i suspect is part of it... he does some unusual stuff. Water with ph below 5...
Sorry dude, no offense, just answering the question.
 
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HeartlandHank said:
One thing I see in his grow is that he has a ton of lower growth that could be cleaned out and he is not maximizing the light by shaping his canopy. He is cramming plants that like to stretch into small spaces. that is a recipe for whispy buds that are crammed and not getting light.

What are you getting at? What do you think it is? DG?

The thing is, he wouldn't know if DG produces fluffy buds because he stopped feeding with DG at 17th day of flower.

I've seen him say stuff in threads that i suspect is part of it... he does some unusual stuff. Water with ph below 5... veg at 400 ppm...
Sorry dude, no offense, just answering the question.
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you never read the whole thread i can tell. ive never set my ph below 5 ever. also i used dyna on another crop for the last 30 days and i had the most airy buds i ever grew. i had a main cola that i thought was 2 oz and it turned out to be a z i was mad as hell
 
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tree king said:
thanks for posting those results pat that also confirms the lower density of dyna just like i found myself

you used no additives with AN in the comparison?
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I used bud candy for 1 week on all plants to feed the biological boogers in the pro-mix with White Shark.
 
HeartlandHank

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tree king said:
you never read the whole thread i can tell. ive never set my ph below 5 ever. also i used dyna on another crop for the last 30 days and i had the most airy buds i ever grew. i had a main cola that i thought was 2 oz and it turned out to be a z i was mad as hell
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You were about to. But everyone was like "NOOOOOOO!!" then you didn't.

It is possible that it is all appearance... but i've been growing this plant for a while. i know it very well. ive given the buds a good squeeze. it would be quite a surprise if these buds dry up smaller than the others. Even if they did. with the increased bud production on my side branches, it would still be an increase in yield. The main colas are not much different. It is the increase in bud size on the side branches that dramatically increased.
 
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HeartlandHank said:
You were about to. But everyone was like "NOOOOOOO!!" then you didn't.

It is possible that it is all appearance... but i've been growing this plant for a while. i know it very well. ive given the buds a good squeeze. it would be quite a surprise if these buds dry up smaller than the others. Even if they did. with the increased bud production on my side branches, it would still be an increase in yield.
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lol now i remember that was to fix a high ph run off issue. you were makin it seem like i do that normally or something i was trying to fix a problem with the rockwool
 
patlpp

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We all just have to take other's observations with a grain of salt. I find it enjoyable testing all these things but if you come down to it, any of these nute lines are fine.

Other facts I'll throw out here:

Big Bud is not needed if you use Sensi PH-Perfect. It has the same exact aminos,
Floralicious + is about the best additive on the planet. It is really B-52 and more. If you use it on Dyno, it literally turns it into Sensi (less ph-perfect) + B-52 and Bud Candy. It has it all.
KoolBloom dry is Overdrive. Hormones and all. at a cost of 2.5c/gal
 
HeartlandHank

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Homebrewer did some nute1 vs nute2 vs nute3 tests as well. Im sure he came out feeling Dynagro was best... and in his grow I am sure it was. It is working very well in my grow too. We all have different setups with different media and different genetics. When you do a test you get results for your grow. That's my opinion anyway.

I'll try out the Sensi in mid Feb in 1 flower room.
 
patlpp

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HeartlandHank said:
Homebrewer did some nute1 vs nute2 vs nute3 tests as well. Im sure he came out feeling Dynagro was best... and in his grow I am sure it was. It is working very well in my grow too. We all have different setups with different media and different genetics. When you do a test you get results for your grow. That's my opinion anyway.

I'll try out the Sensi in mid Feb in 1 flower room.
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WHat medium will you be using?
 
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