after trying dyna gro im switching back to advanced nutrients 2 part

thecoolman · Feb 28, 2013

homebrewer said:
Grower skill is the single most important component in indoor growing. Do you think these plants can water, feed, harvest and cure themselves while maintaining an optimal environment? Saying 'strain is everything' is like saying those drivers don't do anything in those NASCAR races . Genetics are important but they are rarely the weak link.

In all likelihood, you're still figuring things out while blaming everything except yourself for your short comings. Hey, how about some pictures of that killing fields that you didn't like yet everyone else raves about.

While we're waiting for your killing fields pictures, here is some OG13 that got harvested today (from seed, first time growing her):

In regards to potency/quality, I'd be more than willing to go head to head. Who shall be our judge?

A tad bit to much chlorafill for me. You might try cutting back on the dyna grow grow to bloom ratio near the end a bit LOL.. But if you bring your Ak I will put 500 on Tree Kings Chemdog.

thecoolman · Feb 28, 2013

tree king said:
coolman the secret recipe has some of the best genetics in the world in it yet theres barely any smell and its airy as shit with low potency. i dont know whats up but theres something fishy goin on how do you fuck up wit those genetics? startin to think they dont even have the real cuts. not all but some

I completely agree i thinkalot of so called breeders dont have the cuts and are full of shit. They should all have f5s of worked
Cali strains by now instead of pollen chucking.

tree king · Feb 28, 2013

thecoolman said:
A tad bit to much chlorafill for me. You mite try cutting back on the dyna grow grow to bloom ratio near the end a bit LOL.. But if you bring your Ak I will put 500 on Tree Kings Chemdog.

haaa lol. i pulled a chem once a week early and it still blew everything else outta the water by a mile. it was kinda shocking cause it had alot of nute burn too. was growin a few different strains on one tray so i couldnt control what the chem was gettin just had a couple on there

tree king · Feb 28, 2013

thecoolman said:
I completely agree i thinkalot of so called breeders dont have the cuts and are full of shit. They should all have f5s of worked
Cali strains by now instead of pollen chucking.

im witchu. you know the guy chemdawg gave those cuts directly to jjnyc so you know he got the real deal

thecoolman · Feb 28, 2013

tree king said:
haaa lol. i pulled a chem once a week early and it still blew everything else outta the water by a mile. it was kinda shocking cause it had alot of nute burn too. was growin a few different strains on one tray so i couldnt control what the chem was gettin just had a couple on there

Just got the tres star dawg today sounds encouraging. have to try to make some room

tree king · Feb 28, 2013

thecoolman said:
Just got the tres star dawg today sounds encouraging. have to try to make some room

i forgot about that glad you got em cant wait to see what you think. hopefully tomorrow i can germ all my star dawgs

thecoolman · Feb 28, 2013

HeartlandHank said:
TREEKING,

It's been many months since we talked about Killing Fields, but, after finishing up a long hard look at a pack of KF's I had to come back and comment on your opinion on KF.

You are CRAZY. This weed is great and VERY potent. The 10 wk green plant is crazy potent. KF #5 in my joural...
Bud density is not bad at all for being so far leaning sativa..

You're crazy man. Killing Fields is super potent and great smoke. With that 10 wk green plant... everyone is taking two hits and passing on it. 1 large hit from a bong will get you really high.. The effect is great too. Super happy, upbeat, feel good social kind of high. It's still balanced enough to please a couch lock fan though.

You grew 20 of them and didn't find a good plant? I call bullshit brotha... You raved about diesel... did you not get any diesel plants in those 20 Kf's? I had 6 mothers and every one of them is great.. Choosing 2 to keep of these 6 was one of the hardest genetic choices I have had to make.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/588955-6-sannies-killing-fields-f3.html

Checkout #5... fucking amazing plant. You talk alot about your potency standards... You had to have fucked something up or gotten a bad pack to not end up with killer plants. I've thoroughly back stocked, flowered and tested over 80 females with my current setup over some years... KF#5 is right up there in the top 5 of those 80 and #1 of anything before those 80.

It's been a bit... hope all is well with you.

I call bullshit!

Thats fucking funny. Its people like you who have never smoked good weed that spread this type of bullshit and waste peoples time.
I grew out about 10 packs of sannies strains killing fields was the worst fucking one. In fact the only decent one
I came across was anestesia from Whatzup which is sold under his breeders choice line. Sannies strains are b grade
the killing fields is truly a C grade. Are you growing in the backwoods of Arkansas or something where they don't get good weed?

tree king · Feb 28, 2013

now you see how i got sucked in lol

thecoolman · Feb 28, 2013

LOL... oops

Stonefree69 · Mar 1, 2013

Good yield and potent as well? White Fire OG, 3 lb. avg/plant dried buds, 10 week veg from clone before flip to 12/12:

tree king said:
im witchu. you know the guy chemdawg gave those cuts directly to jjnyc so you know he got the real deal

I think Rezdog has some original cuts/seeds from Chemdog (Reservoir seeds) but some say Rezdog is a shady character. Anyway this grower was also growing Chemdog along with the White Fire OG but didn't yield as well so he's going all WFOG this time.

Izoc666 · Mar 1, 2013

tree king said:
haaa lol. i pulled a chem once a week early and it still blew everything else outta the water by a mile. it was kinda shocking cause it had alot of nute burn too. was growin a few different strains on one tray so i couldnt control what the chem was gettin just had a couple on there

i ve grew Chem D before its popular in southern california , one thing this is some potent that will put you into zombie mode...basically good for coucklock, relief your pains etc. they re all hoggin nutrients so heavy, but they re fine underfeed till you understand of this strain, you got to dial in first, so you wont get overnutes. when the bud become dried, aroma is amazing, whats more after cured, its reallllly STINKY to carry around with this buds.

Izoc666 · Mar 1, 2013

Stonefree69 said:
Good yield and potent as well? White Fire OG, 3 lb. avg/plant dried buds, 10 week veg from clone before flip to 12/12:

I think Rezdog has some original cuts/seeds from Chemdog (Reservoir seeds) but some say Rezdog is a shady character. Anyway this grower was also growing Chemdog along with the White Fire OG but didn't yield as well so he's going all WFOG this time.

white fire og is real FIRE ! I ve always got it from dispesnary store. Its excellent smoke.

you got a nice monster plant lol. good job, sir.

happy gardening.

tree king · Mar 1, 2013

Izoc666 said:
i ve grew Chem D before its popular in southern california , one thing this is some potent that will put you into zombie mode...basically good for coucklock, relief your pains etc. they re all hoggin nutrients so heavy, but they re fine underfeed till you understand of this strain, you got to dial in first, so you wont get overnutes. when the bud become dried, aroma is amazing, whats more after cured, its reallllly STINKY to carry around with this buds.

this is my point, what zombie mode is to you is regular shit where im from dudes like the most potent shit thats around where as in europe there mixin weed with tobacco cause they dont wanna get as high. and this has nothin to do with indica and sativa just so you know because my people go crazy when theres some bomb haze or sour diesel around

inhaleindica · Mar 1, 2013

thecoolman said:
A tad bit to much chlorafill for me. You might try cutting back on the dyna grow grow to bloom ratio near the end a bit LOL.. But if you bring your Ak I will put 500 on Tree Kings Chemdog.

What you just said :wall:

. Try it before being arrogant. Ever since I stopped using bloom I have doubled my yield and potency has increased along with better flavor buds.

Izoc666 · Mar 1, 2013

tree king said:
this is my point, what zombie mode is to you is regular shit where im from dudes like the most potent shit thats around where as in europe there mixin weed with tobacco cause they dont wanna get as high. and this has nothin to do with indica and sativa just so you know because my people go crazy when theres some bomb haze or sour diesel around

oh i see, sour diesel or any kind of diesel is common in my area as well.

one thing that we dont have in my area is sativa strains, they re hard to obtain because not a lot of growers willing to grow long flowering strain like pure sativa dom. I remember back in the old day we always smoke sativa, tripping until indica came and everything s changed.

Thus if you re looking for the best high that will dazzle your people then grow pure sativas !

peace.

tree king · Mar 1, 2013

Izoc666 said:
oh i see, sour diesel or any kind of diesel is common in my area as well.

one thing that we dont have in my area is sativa strains, they re hard to obtain because not a lot of growers willing to grow long flowering strain like pure sativa dom. I remember back in the old day we always smoke sativa, tripping until indica came and everything s changed.

Thus if you re looking for the best high that will dazzle your people then grow pure sativas !

peace.

tell you the truth diesel isnt that common in my area its hard to get but everyone wants it cause its powerful. people say they have diesel all the time to trick people but most of the time its fake there just tryin to sell shit to idiots who dont know any better. no pure sativas for me im stickin to under 70 days

thecoolman · Mar 1, 2013

inhaleindica said:
What you just said . Try it before being arrogant. Ever since I stopped using bloom I have doubled my yield and potency has increased along with better flavor buds.

I have used dyna grow plenty of times and it seems your the arrogant one. If your yielding more without the
bloom on the straight grow formula you don't know what the fuck your doing.. 7-9-5 formula for bloom give me
a fucking break I probably know a lot more than you. I know the NPK ratios are not the best. Its way to low on calcium and mag. It is to high in ammonium nitrogen to be seriously considered a top hydro nute ect.
Now the best you can do with all dyna grow products in bloom is to try to find the best ratio of bloom to add.
You also have to add the potasium silicate as its way way to low on potassium for hydro and the grow is low on the K for anything marijuana. The other problem is with the mag pro especially in hydro because it has way to much P for a already P heavy bloom formula. You really should learn a little more about nutrients before
you go spouting off. With that said I have seen a few of homebrewers posts before and consider him knowledgeable and a great grower.

inhaleindica · Mar 2, 2013

thecoolman said:
I have used dyna grow plenty of times and it seems your the arrogant one. If your yielding more without the
bloom on the straight grow formula you don't know what the fuck your doing.. 7-9-5 formula for bloom give me
a fucking break I probably know a lot more than you. I know the NPK ratios are not the best. Its way to low on calcium and mag. It is to high in ammonium nitrogen to be seriously considered a top hydro nute ect.
Now the best you can do with all dyna grow products in bloom is to try to find the best ratio of bloom to add.
You also have to add the potasium silicate as its way way to low on potassium for hydro and the grow is low on the K for anything marijuana. The other problem is with the mag pro especially in hydro because it has way to much P for a already P heavy bloom formula. You really should learn a little more about nutrients before
you go spouting off. With that said I have seen a few of homebrewers posts before and consider him knowledgeable and a great grower.

Lol, if you say so sir..... I don't use just grow. I use a few other things to bring up the P and K so it is all taken care of. I got nothing to prove anyways. I am happy and my patients are happy so why should I argue??? I don't do hydro these days. If I were to grow in Hydro then I would be using the Bloom for sure...

HeartlandHank · Mar 30, 2013

thecoolman said:
I have used dyna grow plenty of times and it seems your the arrogant one. If your yielding more without the
bloom on the straight grow formula you don't know what the fuck your doing.. 7-9-5 formula for bloom give me
a fucking break I probably know a lot more than you. I know the NPK ratios are not the best. Its way to low on calcium and mag. It is to high in ammonium nitrogen to be seriously considered a top hydro nute ect.
Now the best you can do with all dyna grow products in bloom is to try to find the best ratio of bloom to add.
You also have to add the potasium silicate as its way way to low on potassium for hydro and the grow is low on the K for anything marijuana. The other problem is with the mag pro especially in hydro because it has way to much P for a already P heavy bloom formula. You really should learn a little more about nutrients before
you go spouting off. With that said I have seen a few of homebrewers posts before and consider him knowledgeable and a great grower.

I'm just curious if you are speaking from "i read it" knowledge, or "i grew it" knowledge.??...

Have you tried a couple grows with a plant you know using 7-9-5 all the way through... or even a 3-1-2 all the way through?

I saw you referred to R Steiner in another thread, saying more K is necessary...

I am just finishing up a grow with 3-1-2 ratio all the way through... It did very well... but 7-9-5 all the way through has done better than anything I have ever tried. Canna, H&G, DG, something else, I forget, it's been a while.

Dyna (no matter the NPK) leaves a smell I do not like in the buds... it took about a year to pinpoint what was causing the smell.. I'm pretty sure Dyna is it.. I just have one more grow to do with a different brand of coco before I can be sure.

I am about to switch to House and Garden Coco, GH Flora Micro HW (mostly for N) and G Organics CaMg+. About 1/2 strength H&G, 1/2 Flora Micro, 1/4 camg+. Just guessing for now... I'll get a better idea after a few grows. I think this feed is going to be my preferred in the near future.
House and Garden has done me very well in the past, just lacking in yields... I think some extra N should improve the yields. The 5-0-1 of Flora Micro should solve that problem. However, I might want my N boost to be Ammoniacal Nitrogen as the coco AB is mostly Nitrate. Not sure yet.

HeartlandHank · Mar 30, 2013

tree king said:
tell you the truth diesel isnt that common in my area its hard to get but everyone wants it cause its powerful. people say they have diesel all the time to trick people but most of the time its fake there just tryin to sell shit to idiots who dont know any better. no pure sativas for me im stickin to under 70 days

I've just got into the Diesels recently.. great shit.

It is a shame you didn't find the NYCD leaning plant when you grew out Killing Fields. I found it in a single pack... Wreaks like grapefruit, crazy potent, beautiful, high yields. I've always heard that NYCD and ECD don't hold up to O Diesel, but I don't know.. this plant holds up to any Diesel I have seen. Seasoned smokers are pleased with 2 hits.
With my current mother stock, I've been through almost 200 seeds... stocked and tested at least 80 plants.. If I could keep only one it would be this one. Finishes in just under 70 days. POTENT. Sativa and Indica affects, everyone is pleased with this one.

NYCD leaning Killing Fields

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