AG Garland appoints special counsel

Offmymeds said:
Th normal behavior for fans is to double down. The normal GOP behavior is to double down. They will send out emergency fund-raising messages, "Get your money in before the Dem cabal silences you and cuts your SS benefits!"
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One day it will all come crashing down, starting with Trump and the documents. Mark Meadows is the key to bringing down those in congress who participated in the planning at least. What Mark does in the coming weeks and months will tell you a lot about how all this turns out. I think by this time next year we will be in a completely different situation as the chickens come home to roost for many. The house will be like a chicken coup and Jack will be the fox, but before that happens a lot of people will go to prison for a long time and each one who does will prime them for panic. When Trump goes down, they will know they can go down too, to kill a snake you chop off it's head and that will be the first order of business, to chop the head off the snake.
 
xtsho said:
You think it's a nothing burger. That's. not going to stop it from being a problem. Half the country voted for Trump. The optics are a problem.
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less than half, maybe 30%, and that 30% of the country already thinks there's a problem, they always have and they always will, so what fucking difference does "optics" make?...the only people being influenced by this already hate Biden, so now they're going to hate him more? who gives one thin fuck what they think?
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
less than half, maybe 40%, and that 40% of the country already thinks there's a problem, they always have and they always will, so what fucking difference does "optics" make?...the only people being influenced by this already hate Biden, so now they're going to hate him more? who gives one thin fuck what they think?
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From what I can see there is no case against Biden, maybe a staffer or maybe a regular government employee. The two cases are like night and day and the courts care about facts, even if some of the public does not. I think these guilty fucks in the house will have more to worry about than this, with the legal tornado heading their way. Getting rid of the house ethics committee or crippling it, just invites the DOJ into somethings they normally let the house take care of with the ethics committee. The DOJ can fuck with them provided their is evidence, but they can't fuck with the DOJ without going to court and when they do the DOJ will unleash public court filings like with Mar A largo. Such public filings often shake loose other witnesses who might come forward and the press starts digging too.
 
Lets all get in a circle and say the same thing.

"Biden taking classified documents and forgetting about them in an office is no big deal."

Forget about it. Time to move on. Blah blah blah.

Can you hear the echo?

Let's look at the facts.

We know Biden took classified documents to an insecure location and that those documents resided there for at least six years. But but but they were in a locked closet. And it doesn't matter because it was Biden and he's one of us. Now if it was Pence then we'd need to Lock Him Up!

The hypocrisy.
 
xtsho said:
Lets all get in a circle and say the same thing.

"Biden taking classified documents and forgetting about them in an office is no big deal."

Forget about it. Time to move on. Blah blah blah.

Can you hear the echo?

Let's look at the facts.

We know Biden took classified documents to an insecure location and that those documents resided there for at least six years. But but but they were in a locked closet. And it doesn't matter because it was Biden and he's one of us. Now if it was Pence then we'd need to Lock Him Up!

The hypocrisy.
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Actually this revelation and move clears the way for prosecuting Trump over the documents and obstruction case. I think it is a sign they are gonna indict Trump soon and are clearing the decks of any obstacles and this appears to have been a consideration at least. Judges hear cases if there is one, but the prosecutor has to bring one and against the right person (a government employee delegated to the responsibility of tracking the documents). Juries decide guilt or innocence in our legal systems and the verdict must be unanimous. They can whine all they want about the deep state and conspiracies, but they are up against reality of a jury verdict, not a witch hunt. The difference between the cases lies in the facts and they count to prosecutors and especially judges.
 
xtsho said:
Lets all get in a circle and say the same thing.

"Biden taking classified documents and forgetting about them in an office is no big deal."

Forget about it. Time to move on. Blah blah blah.

Can you hear the echo?

Let's look at the facts.

We know Biden took classified documents to an insecure location and that those documents resided there for at least six years. But but but they were in a locked closet. And it doesn't matter because it was Biden and he's one of us. Now if it was Pence then we'd need to Lock Him Up!

The hypocrisy.
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xtsho said:
Lets all get in a circle and say the same thing.

"Biden taking classified documents and forgetting about them in an office is no big deal."

Forget about it. Time to move on. Blah blah blah.

Can you hear the echo?

Let's look at the facts.

We know Biden took classified documents to an insecure location and that those documents resided there for at least six years. But but but they were in a locked closet. And it doesn't matter because it was Biden and he's one of us. Now if it was Pence then we'd need to Lock Him Up!

The hypocrisy.
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something worth remembering is how often Biden said to the recorders:
“it’s not theirs. It’s mine!”

So equating Biden’s oopsie to That Man’s deliberate and persistent campaign to abuse the classified documents system is nonsense, and it reveals that you hate a Democrat more than a proven traitor. Hmmmm.

www.forbes.com

Biden, Classified Documents And The Power Of Accountability

How taking responsibility for mistakes and making amends evince high-character leadership.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
 
xtsho said:
Lets all get in a circle and say the same thing.

"Biden taking classified documents and forgetting about them in an office is no big deal."

Forget about it. Time to move on. Blah blah blah.

Can you hear the echo?

Let's look at the facts.

We know Biden took classified documents to an insecure location and that those documents resided there for at least six years. But but but they were in a locked closet. And it doesn't matter because it was Biden and he's one of us. Now if it was Pence then we'd need to Lock Him Up!

The hypocrisy.
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https://www.kmvt.com/2023/01/10/gop-requests-intel-damage-assessment-biden-documents/
“Our system of classification exists in order to protect our most important national security secrets, and we expect to be briefed on what happened both at Mar-a-Lago and at the Biden office as part of our constitutional oversight obligations. From what we know so far, the latter is about finding documents with markings, and turning them over, which is certainly different from a months-long effort to retain material actively being sought by the government. But again, that’s why we need to be briefed.”

-Sen. Mark Warner, the Democratic chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee
 
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Blame Garland for not taking TFG into custody after findiing the classified Documents in his desk. This case should have been tried and decided by now. That's the way all the lower level people have been treated who fucked up the classified doc's.

One tier Justice System, Ha!
 
xtsho said:
Lets all get in a circle and say the same thing.

"Biden taking classified documents and forgetting about them in an office is no big deal."

Forget about it. Time to move on. Blah blah blah.

Can you hear the echo?

Let's look at the facts.

We know Biden took classified documents to an insecure location and that those documents resided there for at least six years. But but but they were in a locked closet. And it doesn't matter because it was Biden and he's one of us. Now if it was Pence then we'd need to Lock Him Up!

The hypocrisy.
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trump having the documents wouldn't have been an issue if he would have returned them.
the national archives said as much back when this shit started. what they had an issue with was him lying, stalling, hiding...
it does matter, and i said if there are consequences, i'm sure Biden will face them like a man, and not like a fucking spineless weasel.
but i don't see why there should be any major consequences. Biden didn't do any of the things trump did to aggravate the situation.
he returned them promptly to the proper authorities, and continues to cooperate with them, willingly.
trump...not so much.
and he's still free, with no consequences.
you only call it an echo chamber because reasonable people agree about something that you don't agree with. you want it to be an issue, or you at least want us to sweat this non issue. sorry, this doesn't deserve sweat.
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
trump having the documents wouldn't have been an issue if he would have returned them.
the national archives said as much back when this shit started. what they had an issue with was him lying, stalling, hiding...
it does matter, and i said if there are consequences, i'm sure Biden will face them like a man, and not like a fucking spineless weasel.
but i don't see why there should be any major consequences. Biden didn't do any of the things trump did to aggravate the situation.
he returned them promptly to the proper authorities, and continues to cooperate with them, willingly.
trump...not so much.
and he's still free, with no consequences.
you only call it an echo chamber because reasonable people agree about something that you don't agree with. you want it to be an issue, or you at least want us to sweat this non issue. sorry, this doesn't deserve sweat.
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It's not a Democrat/Republican issue. I don't know about the rest of you but I expect anyone that occupies the White House or any other elected office to protect the nation's secrets. Whether anyone that was not authorized to see those documents saw them or not is a mute point. The issue is the carelessness shown with the handling of the documents.

Biden should have taken better care of those documents. How do you just leave classified documents laying around? It doesn't matter if it was one document or 100 documents.

I voted for Biden but I won't again. I expect the people I vote for to take great care with the business of the United States and Biden did not do that. I'm an American citizen and my concern isn't one man that I'll defend no matter what. What Biden did was show a carelessness that is inexcusable. Biden needs to do a Nancy Pelosi. Step aside and not run in 2024.
 
xtsho said:
It's not a Democrat/Republican issue. I don't know about the rest of you but I expect anyone that occupies the White House or any other elected office to protect the nation's secrets. Whether anyone that was not authorized to see those documents saw them or not is a mute point. The issue is the carelessness shown with the handling of the documents.

Biden should have taken better care of those documents. How do you just leave classified documents laying around? It doesn't matter if it was one document or 100 documents.

I voted for Biden but I won't again. I expect the people I vote for to take great care with the business of the United States and Biden did not do that. I'm an American citizen and my concern isn't one man that I'll defend no matter what. What Biden did was show a carelessness that is inexcusable. Biden needs to do a Nancy Pelosi. Step aside and not run in 2024.
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Let's see what the courts say, we wouldn't want to jump to conclusions! :lol: They can tell the difference between apples and oranges. I'm sure the Biden administration is working on the transition problem with secret documents, but it needs new law, provided a republican administration follows the law, since the last one didn't.

Your choice is to vote for a party that just trashed the house ethics committee and is full of criminals and grifters who want to cut Medicare and social security. You have no choice if you are a patriot, they tried to overthrow the constitution and are now trying to abuse power to try and get away with it. There is no getting around the fact the republicans are a fascist organization that both uses and promotes domestic terrorism as an organization. Only a fool would vote for such people, they are not an option for any sensible person.
 
xtsho said:
It's not a Democrat/Republican issue. I don't know about the rest of you but I expect anyone that occupies the White House or any other elected office to protect the nation's secrets. Whether anyone that was not authorized to see those documents saw them or not is a mute point. The issue is the carelessness shown with the handling of the documents.

Biden should have taken better care of those documents. How do you just leave classified documents laying around? It doesn't matter if it was one document or 100 documents.

I voted for Biden but I won't again. I expect the people I vote for to take great care with the business of the United States and Biden did not do that. I'm an American citizen and my concern isn't one man that I'll defend no matter what. What Biden did was show a carelessness that is inexcusable. Biden needs to do a Nancy Pelosi. Step aside and not run in 2024.
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he, or someone in his employ were careless, which is the same as him being careless. that being said, this is one isolated case, probably caused by forgetfulness in the throes of the campaign.
you seem to expect perfection from those in the whitehouse....when have you or anyone else ever gotten that? never...that's when.
on the scale of mistakes made, this is sub 1...this is a .45-.55 mistake....i am not that concerned about it, and will not become more concerned about it.
this is a nonissue for me, but apparently not for you, so you go lose sleep over it, you vote for an inferior candidate to ensure yourself of something that cannot ever happen...waste time and effort trying to turn this into anything...are you sure you aren't a trump republican? you seem to share a LOT of their concerns and attitudes.
 
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