Agent Orange, Pandora's Box, Space Jill Journal

Hellbillie · Feb 7, 2011

I have decided to move away from my Blue Widows and Jack Herres to TGA Genetics since he is a Colorado local and so am I. I picked up a 10 pack of Agent orange, and a 5 pack of Pandora's Box and Space Jill. I started germination on February 5th. I will keep this regularly updated.

Grow Rooms.

Veg Room

8 Bulb 4' T5 and a 400w MH
c02 at 1200ppm
room temp is a constant 75-78 degrees.

Fox Farms soils and fert's at 1/4 strength for 7 weeks and then 2 1/2 strength plus 2 tablespoons of molasses for all of flowering.

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2/5/11 - Placed 3 seeds each of Pandora's Box, Agent Orange, and Space Jill

Hellbillie · Feb 20, 2011

These seeds have been the slowest germinating seeds I have ever germed. I do now finally have some plants though!

I thought I would through some pictures of my current grow up.

My second generation Blue Berry / White Widow Cross

Some more Stuff coming dow the line.

In here is 3rd generation Blue Widows, and Generation Jack Herrer, Pandora's Box, Space Jill, Agent Orange, some tomato seedlings and some plumerias.

Germination Chamber

Just a plant that I think looks good, lol.

Jack Herrer Gen2

chronicallyDank · Feb 20, 2011

Nice grow op dude. Cant wait to see how your pandoras box comes out. Im getting ready to harvest some myself.

Hellbillie · Apr 10, 2011

The 2 tall skinny plants behind me are some Jack Herres that I am working on crossing with agent orange. Everything else is Blue Widows. I will be crossing the Blue Widows with Agent Orange and Space Jill from TGA as soon as im done flowering the males. I also modified my setup since last, i now have my light on a track thats moving 8 foot over the plants.

Im hoping for a nice crazy strong buzz and a blue berry citrus blend.

A couple of weeks ago

some finished product of my last batch, just the fluffy bottum nugs though, only got 18oz on the 3 plants that time, I accidently split the stock down to the soil, so they were having some issues getting water and nutes.

B DUB · Apr 10, 2011

Hellbillie said:
These seeds have been the slowest germinating seeds I have ever germed. I do now finally have some plants though!

I thought I would through some pictures of my current grow up.

My second generation Blue Berry / White Widow Cross

Some more Stuff coming dow the line.

In here is 3rd generation Blue Widows, and Generation Jack Herrer, Pandora's Box, Space Jill, Agent Orange, some tomato seedlings and some plumerias.

Germination Chamber

Just a plant that I think looks good, lol.

Jack Herrer Gen2

How big are the soil containers and how long did you veg? I generally veg about 2 months plus 2 weeks in germ chamber. No where near in size though. What am I doing wrong. When do you put to those size pots. How man tranlants?

Hellbillie · Apr 10, 2011

B DUB said:
How big are the soil containers and how long did you veg? I generally veg about 2 months plus 2 weeks in germ chamber. No where near in size though. What am I doing wrong. When do you put to those size pots. How man tranlants?

I generally start them as cuttings in rockwool for 2 weeks average or until i have some decent roots, then into 3 gallons pots for about 3 weeks, transplant into 5gal for another week or 2 depending on how they handle it, then to the flower room for 50-60 days. I noticed a huge difference in there growth and girth when I switched from Fox Farms soil and nutes to Roots soil and General Organics. I start veg nutes at week 2 in the 3 gallon pots at 1/2 strength. I go to full strength about half way through flowering. I also use there cal/mag at light strength in every watering from day 1 into soil. I have been extremely disappointed in the FF nutes, they seems to be very inconsistent and burn the plants very easy at half strength.

I only have those little square pots because I was being lazy and was out of rockwool.

B DUB · Apr 10, 2011

Hellbillie said:
I generally start them as cuttings in rockwool for 2 weeks average or until i have some decent roots, then into 3 gallons pots for about 3 weeks, transplant into 5gal for another week or 2 depending on how they handle it, then to the flower room for 50-60 days. I noticed a huge difference in there growth and girth when I switched from Fox Farms soil and nutes to Roots soil and General Organics. I start veg nutes at week 2 in the 3 gallon pots at 1/2 strength. I go to full strength about half way through flowering. I also use there cal/mag at light strength in every watering from day 1 into soil. I have been extremely disappointed in the FF nutes, they seems to be very inconsistent and burn the plants very easy at half strength.

I only have those little square pots because I was being lazy and was out of rockwool.

I am wondering how big the pots are in the flower room? How tall are they? They look about 6 ft?

B DUB · Apr 10, 2011

Oh yeah and with the fox farm line I have had no issue full strength every watering but I go based off the online fox farm nute suggested feeding. Do you currently use the chart?

Check it out
http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/soilfeed.pdf

Snow Crash · Apr 10, 2011

I used to live at about that elevation in a house between Tabernash and Granby near Frasier/Winter Park. Sky sure does look big when you're way up there.

At that elevation I think your best cuts are going to be on the Indica Dominant phenotypes.

I just wanted to sign up. I've been following subcool gear for a while and can't wait to see how it goes for you.

Hellbillie · Apr 11, 2011

flowering room are black 5 gallon buckets and plants are about 5'5" im squatting abit to be under the light hood

B DUB · Apr 11, 2011

Hellbillie said:
flowering room are black 5 gallon buckets and plants are about 5'5" im squatting abit to be under the light hood

So you are suggesting roots organic soil and general organics line of nutes? If so whats the full line? Sorry man but intrigued.

Hellbillie · Apr 11, 2011

I use biothrive grow, bio weed, and CaMg+ during veg and biothrive bloom, biobud, and CaMg+ during flowering. And I definitely like the roots soil the best out of the 4-5 kinds ive tried.

B DUB · Apr 11, 2011

Hellbillie said:
I use biothrive grow, bio weed, and CaMg+ during veg and biothrive bloom, biobud, and CaMg+ during flowering. And I definitely like the roots soil the best out of the 4-5 kinds ive tried.

Somebody told me he thought his plants got really stemmy in the roots soil but the size of your plants in that time period is impressive. 2 months or less and to flower with over 5ft plants makes me wanna try some of that. I have never tried anything but fox farm ocean forest. Did they use to get that big in the other soils?

MsBBB · Apr 11, 2011

Hellbillie said:
The 2 tall skinny plants behind me are some Jack Herres that I am working on crossing with agent orange. Everything else is Blue Widows. I will be crossing the Blue Widows with Agent Orange and Space Jill from TGA as soon as im done flowering the males. I also modified my setup since last, i now have my light on a track thats moving 8 foot over the plants.

Im hoping for a nice crazy strong buzz and a blue berry citrus blend.

some finished product of my last batch, just the fluffy bottum nugs though, only got 18oz on the 3 plants that time, I accidently split the stock down to the soil, so they were having some issues getting water and nutes.

I have seen a lot of beautiful plants on this site, and these are ranked high on my list, if not the best. They are flowering and look so green and stress free. I will be following your Pandora grow to see how it compares to what you just showed.

Hellbillie · Apr 12, 2011

This is definitely the tallest and bushiest this strain has become so far. There is only 3 plants in there besides the 2 jack herres.

Hellbillie · Apr 12, 2011

SO it looks like all my dam tga seeds have turned out to be male. I will let them flower for another week to be sure, but im seeing balls on them all. If this is the case Ill take the nicest looking one and collect the pollen. Brush it on my next batch of BW's and start the process of breeding the juvys back to the mother etc.. I read that alot of people are having issues with the tga seeds being male. I have never planted 30 seeds and and got 100% male plants before. This kinda sucks to drop $200 and get nothing from it. All my seeds during germ were low temps so maybe the majority would be female. I still have 10 more Agent Orange seeds. So I shall see what happens. I guess I will have to start doing some looking for some clones here in Colorado.

B DUB · Apr 12, 2011

Hellbillie said:
SO it looks like all my dam tga seeds have turned out to be male. I will let them flower for another week to be sure, but im seeing balls on them all. If this is the case Ill take the nicest looking one and collect the pollen. Brush it on my next batch of BW's and start the process of breeding the juvys back to the mother etc.. I read that alot of people are having issues with the tga seeds being male. I have never planted 30 seeds and and got 100% male plants before. This kinda sucks to drop $200 and get nothing from it. All my seeds during germ were low temps so maybe the majority would be female. I still have 10 more Agent Orange seeds. So I shall see what happens. I guess I will have to start doing some looking for some clones here in Colorado.

I just recently started Qrazy Train, Killer Skunk, Agent Orange and The Void. I believe most are TGA. Am I right? I have notice 2 males so far and a possible 2 more. Hope it stays that way. Out of 19.

Hellbillie · Apr 13, 2011

Well i ended up with all males, I had one straggler that took way longer to germinate. Looked at it again tonight, I have a female Pandora's Box! Topped her and took 6 clones to get started. So 29 males and 1 dam female...but 1 is better then none.

chronicallyDank · Apr 13, 2011

Hellbillie said:
Well i ended up with all males, I had one straggler that took way longer to germinate. Looked at it again tonight, I have a female Pandora's Box! Topped her and took 6 clones to get started. So 29 males and 1 dam female...but 1 is better then none.

At least it was the Pandora. Mine was throwing up rocks.

B DUB · Apr 13, 2011

hellbillie said:
well i ended up with all males, i had one straggler that took way longer to germinate. Looked at it again tonight, i have a female pandora's box! Topped her and took 6 clones to get started. So 29 males and 1 dam female...but 1 is better then none.

i am feelin for you man. That is rediculous. Should absolutey never happen. What have you done wrong to deserve that punishment??

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