AK Bean Brains

Look at what a canopy on this Dope Beard! The other DBD I'll get pics of later and she started flowering under 24hr veg, shes the only one in the room to do so... Probably going to be a very fast finisher.

I would also like to note, thus far everything is staying pretty well compact, more so than usual. I think it is due to a combination of things... Feeding correctly, temps dialed in for the most part, maybe the bud ignitor, the Florel and I am also using a trick I've never tried before... I have read it several times, just can't remember the sources. But anyway, you take a piece of PVC pipe and everyday run the pipe over the tops of the plants (the canopy). Kinda waving it back and forth and roughing up the plants a bit.... agitating them, whatever you wanna call it. Definitely wont hurt them, you just have to be careful with the amount of force you use... Seems to be working so far

These were all taken yesterday morning, have not been in to check since lights on this morning, yet. About to go refill my reservoir and see how things are looking.

psychadelibud said:

I am also using a trick I've never tried before... I have read it several times, just can't remember the sources. But anyway, you take a piece of PVC pipe and everyday run the pipe over the tops of the plants (the canopy). Kinda waving it back and forth and roughing up the plants a bit.... agitating them, whatever you wanna call it. Definitely wont hurt them, you just have to be careful with the amount of force you use... Seems to be working so far

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Kinda curious what the PVC trick accomplishes. I'd never heard of that. I know with tomatoes you need to agitate them to pollinate each other. Never heard of this trick before.

Kndreyn said:

Kinda curious what the PVC trick accomplishes. I'd never heard of that. I know with tomatoes you need to agitate them to pollinate each other. Never heard of this trick before.

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I'll see if I can find a link to it. Like I said I've read about it in a few different links just can't remember where to source them. I'll see what I can find. It's used in some flowering greenhouse crops from what I've read, I think it causes micro tears in the fibers of the stalks and stems thus allowing for less stretch. The reason why however, I am not sure. I'll do some research...

Kndreyn said:

Kinda curious what the PVC trick accomplishes. I'd never heard of that. I know with tomatoes you need to agitate them to pollinate each other. Never heard of this trick before.

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So here is a screenshot of one write up I found, this method has been studied and experimented with when PGRs was banned and some greenhouse commercial growers tried different methods for reduction of stretch... According to this info, it is a pretty significant reduction! There are other articles out there as well. Right after lights on I shake the hell out of the entire plant, I'm not easy at all with the shaking either, ill admit it. After the vigorous shaking, I take the PVC pipe and run over the tops of the plants about 6 inches below the top and just move it back and forth roughing all branches up pretty good. I use PVC because of the roundness and soft texture, it does the job without harming the plant... I'm gonna keep digging to see if I can find more.

I have to say, I have been on these forums for many years and even joined overgrown before the big crack down happened, been growing for 18 plus and never heard of this before anywhere... So this is a very interesting experiment and I really get the vibes that it works! We will see......

Then here is something similar, not really directly claiming to use the methods I use but still is the same process basically.

I'm really glad that I found those articles, especially the first one... I figured you guys would think I was out of my mind hahaha....

My tknl5 haze f3 Nl dom 1,2,3 week 3.5. 1 and 2 look almost identical 3 has much taller structure which I think might be a miss labeled dal5 x goji‍ No super distinctive smells yet, not fussy at all, 2 or three females out of 10, Pheno 2 looks like it’s going to be a better yeilder and some really incredible tric coverage for this early, actually more than the 3 elites being grow next to them! Impressive. Will throw some updates up in a couple weeks

Jbaby77 said:

My tknl5 haze f3 Nl dom 1,2,3 week 3.5. 1 and 2 look almost identical 3 has much taller structure which I think might be a miss labeled dal5 x goji‍ No super distinctive smells yet, not fussy at all, 2 or three females out of 10, Pheno 2 looks like it’s going to be a better yeilder and some really incredible tric coverage for this early, actually more than the 3 elites being grow next to them! Impressive. Will throw some updates up in a couple weeks View attachment 4602321View attachment 4602322View attachment 4602324

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Awesome! Lookin' good... Great catch on that one.

Well..... mind = blown!

Here's my latest photos of my indoor grow. As you can see I have got by with absolutely minimal stretch so far. Can't really believe what I am seeing, what I thought would be unmanageable, has actually became entirely manageable. I know there are a few more days of stretch left ahead, but my methods I applied have worked 100%.... Honestly, I kinda wish they had stretched a little more than what they have!

Keep in mind that some of these strains I have in here have like a 200-400% stretch rate!

Hit them with some URB, Tribus and Coconut powder
Top to bottom: NL5 (4), Skunk (2), MTF (1)

Are there any smoke and grow reports on the TK NL5Haze and NL5Haze? Curious to see if there are any haze dominant phenos to be found in those. I’m primarily looking for that cerebral, head high that hits like a train. Anyone found anything like that?

AdvancedBuffalo said:

Are there any smoke and grow reports on the TK NL5Haze and NL5Haze? Curious to see if there are any haze dominant phenos to be found in those. I’m primarily looking for that cerebral, head high that hits like a train. Anyone found anything like that?

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You want Consumption.
It's a collaboration between AKBB, and Professor P, who runs Relic/Dynasty Seeds.
AKBB, and Relic, both have versions of it available.
It's the Cough (aka NL5Haze) x TKNL5Haze.

Bad Karma said:

You want Consumption.
It's a collaboration between AKBB, and Professor P, who runs Relic/Dynasty Seeds.
AKBB, and Relic, both have versions of it available.
It's the Cough (aka NL5Haze) x TKNL5Haze.

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Thanks for the info! That one is definitely on the list. But i guess my real question is.. Has anyone actually grown it out and smoked it? We can do all the speculating and assuming based on lineage, but if the phenos aren’t there then its all moot. Basically every photo I have seen of a growing or finished TKNL5Haze plant is broad leafed with longer internodal spacing. AKBB says there are haze dom phenos in there, but I have yet to find a photo of one that even closely resembles the original NL5 x Haze from Neville.

Of course looks don’t always translate to effects. I know there was someone here growing consumption, but the logging stopped and no smoke report was written up. Anyone have any first-hand experience with any of these?

AdvancedBuffalo said:

Thanks for the info! That one is definitely on the list. But i guess my real question is.. Has anyone actually grown it out and smoked it? We can do all the speculating and assuming based on lineage, but if the phenos aren’t there then its all moot. Basically every photo I have seen of a growing or finished TKNL5Haze plant is broad leafed with longer internodal spacing. AKBB says there are haze dom phenos in there, but I have yet to find a photo of one that even closely resembles the original NL5 x Haze from Neville.

Of course looks don’t always translate to effects. I know there was someone here growing consumption, but the logging stopped and no smoke report was written up. Anyone have any first-hand experience with any of these?

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I keep coming back looking for an actual smoke report on any of this stuff. So far all I've seen are second hand accounts of stuff that's not really available. Not being a nay sayer, but you would think someone would speak up. I guess they're trying to keep it a secret haha.. I just put a couple of Consumption and Darian Gap in to flower a couple of days ago. I have three - TKNL5Haze finishing up in about a month. One hermied on me, one looks like popcorn buds and one looks great. The hermie one looks great too but started popping bananas and I found a male pod on it a couple days ago. I picked them all off and will try to finish it. I'll report on them after they finish.

AdvancedBuffalo said:

Thanks for the info! That one is definitely on the list. But i guess my real question is.. Has anyone actually grown it out and smoked it? We can do all the speculating and assuming based on lineage, but if the phenos aren’t there then its all moot. Basically every photo I have seen of a growing or finished TKNL5Haze plant is broad leafed with longer internodal spacing. AKBB says there are haze dom phenos in there, but I have yet to find a photo of one that even closely resembles the original NL5 x Haze from Neville.

Of course looks don’t always translate to effects. I know there was someone here growing consumption, but the logging stopped and no smoke report was written up. Anyone have any first-hand experience with any of these?

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If it's the haze dominance you're after, I would try AKBB's NL5 x Haze, or Relic's Cough BX (NL5 x Haze). The Cough is a 12+ weeker.

Kndreyn said:

I keep coming back looking for an actual smoke report on any of this stuff. So far all I've seen are second hand accounts of stuff that's not really available. Not being a nay sayer, but you would think someone would speak up. I guess they're trying to keep it a secret haha.. I just put a couple of Consumption and Darian Gap in to flower a couple of days ago. I have three - TKNL5Haze finishing up in about a month. One hermied on me, one looks like popcorn buds and one looks great. The hermie one looks great too but started popping bananas and I found a male pod on it a couple days ago. I picked them all off and will try to finish it. I'll report on them after they finish.

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Some of this stuff is pretty recent.. I'm not surprised there aren't reports. I've grown about 6 or 7 of his strains and just don't have the time to write up reports on all of them. I think that's par for the course around here. Most of us just post a few pics here and there and move on to other stuff.

mindriot said:

Some of this stuff is pretty recent.. I'm not surprised there aren't reports. I've grown about 6 or 7 of his strains and just don't have the time to write up reports on all of them. I think that's par for the course around here. Most of us just post a few pics here and there and move on to other stuff.

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Thanks for the heads up on the Relic Cough BX. I just grabbed that, along with grapefruit F3. I’m looking for a 12+ week strain. Seems like you can’t get those extreme Sativa effects without the long flowering period. Every time someone tries to lower the flowering time, it dulls the intense cerebral effects and loses its charm.

Regarding the smoke reports.. I’m sure AKBB’s stuff is stellar. It’s just odd that people go through the trouble of buying, popping, growing, smoking, and selecting.. Then say nothing about it. I really want to know if that TKNL5Haze is as good as AKBB says it is.

AdvancedBuffalo said:

Thanks for the heads up on the Relic Cough BX. I just grabbed that, along with grapefruit F3. I’m looking for a 12+ week strain. Seems like you can’t get those extreme Sativa effects without the long flowering period. Every time someone tries to lower the flowering time, it dulls the intense cerebral effects and loses its charm.

Regarding the smoke reports.. I’m sure AKBB’s stuff is stellar. It’s just odd that people go through the trouble of buying, popping, growing, smoking, and selecting.. Then say nothing about it. I really want to know if that TKNL5Haze is as good as AKBB says it is.

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I agree about the TKNL5Haze.. I have 2 packs and I wouldn't mind seeing some reports. My black dom/TKNL5haze was really potent, and was heavy on the haze.