all bills paid???

kushdc

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Running a 400watt hid with 400cfm fan with filter and another fan blowing on plants. Is that to much for all bills paid in an apartment?
 

waterdawg

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Except for the schedule, thats what scares the hell out of me lol. We have smart meters here that trac usage by the minute so first u have 18 hours exactly and then 12, hmmm i wonder what he's doing lol.
 

smoke and coke

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if possible set up 2 rooms. use the twice the power but have them offset so 1 room goes off and the other comes on.

run the 1 room 24 hours with plants but rotate them to a dark room every 12 hours. a pain to do but doable.

i wouldn't worry about that small amount of power use but i would worry about the schedule being recorded with the same power draw same time.

nothing wrong with preventive measures.
 
That's 750w at 12v. Big difference.
I'm pretty sure watts used is watts used, the power supply from my pc is going to pull 40-85% of that 750w's out of the wall to power my computer depending on what i do with it. a 400w light + a ballast is going to pull like 440 watts out of the wall. I'm not quite sure the volts have very much to do with it??? correct me if i'm wrong here
 

tip top toker

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A high end computer will use a lot more than 400w.

I think you answered your own question earlier. It is not so much about the size of the light you use, but more whether the landlord is the type of person to analyze the meter and bills and work out what is happening.
 

mr2shim

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I'm pretty sure watts used is watts used, the power supply from my pc is going to pull 40-85% of that 750w's out of the wall to power my computer depending on what i do with it. a 400w light + a ballast is going to pull like 440 watts out of the wall. I'm not quite sure the volts have very much to do with it??? correct me if i'm wrong here
My understanding is that the PSU converts the power from 120 at the wall to 12v, 3.3v, 5v ect for the computer to function.
 

Adjorr

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yeah power bills are usually done based on how many kilowatts per hour you use, so for example I get billed 14 cents per kwh and my setup has a power draw of roughly 500w to make math easy, so I pay 7cents per hour for my setup and even if I ran that 24hr a day itd be $1.68 a day or about 50 bucks a month... ghessh that seems expensive when I think about it
 

spek9

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My understanding is that the PSU converts the power from 120 at the wall to 12v, 3.3v, 5v ect for the computer to function.
Yes, but the rating is on the maximum number of amps that can be pulled by the PSU before it is converted/stepped down.

What most people don't realize though, that a 750w PSU, that's MAX the unit can draw. Most home computers don't have an array of 12 spinning hard disks, and are in fact never using nearly *close* to that rating.

I assure anyone here that a home computer, even a home server isn't going to be using as much energy as your 400w HID, unless the HID is in lights-off.

-spek
 

Ammastor

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I really wouldnt worry about 1 400 watter. Isnt enough to even worry about.

If you were running a few 1000 watters then maybe but 1 single 400 watter. I wouldn't worry. Even if it is metered by the minute.

If it worries you that much. Hell veg 24/0. or 23/1. wouldn't be noticeable at all maybe your running a space heater 24/7 or and a/c unit for cooling a small room.

Either way 400 watts is nothing to worry about. You vaccum, fridge, heater, ac units, some computers, use more then this.

Really man no worries.
 

Red1966

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I'm pretty sure watts used is watts used, the power supply from my pc is going to pull 40-85% of that 750w's out of the wall to power my computer depending on what i do with it. a 400w light + a ballast is going to pull like 440 watts out of the wall. I'm not quite sure the volts have very much to do with it??? correct me if i'm wrong here
I may be wrong about the voltage. I did a quick calculation and at 12v, 750w would be 62.5 Amps. Clearly beyond the capacity of household electrical outlets. So i was wrong. I guess I have to give back my "expert" card.
 
Yes, but the rating is on the maximum number of amps that can be pulled by the PSU before it is converted/stepped down.

What most people don't realize though, that a 750w PSU, that's MAX the unit can draw. Most home computers don't have an array of 12 spinning hard disks, and are in fact never using nearly *close* to that rating.

I assure anyone here that a home computer, even a home server isn't going to be using as much energy as your 400w HID, unless the HID is in lights-off.

-spek
My processor (i7), uses 145w's when at 100% and 40w when idling, and my r9 video card idles at 120w and under full stress is at 396w and averages out at 286w's, but no the average home computer wouldn't be pumping out that many watts
 

mr2shim

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Yes, but the rating is on the maximum number of amps that can be pulled by the PSU before it is converted/stepped down.

What most people don't realize though, that a 750w PSU, that's MAX the unit can draw. Most home computers don't have an array of 12 spinning hard disks, and are in fact never using nearly *close* to that rating.

I assure anyone here that a home computer, even a home server isn't going to be using as much energy as your 400w HID, unless the HID is in lights-off.

-spek
I tend to agree. My PSU is rated for 600w and I believe the most it would draw is something around 400w..

417 to be exact according to extreme power supply calculator
 

Red1966

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Some of those "smart" meters can record data precise enough that they can determine what type of appliances are running.
 

plaguedog

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Yes, but the rating is on the maximum number of amps that can be pulled by the PSU before it is converted/stepped down.

What most people don't realize though, that a 750w PSU, that's MAX the unit can draw. Most home computers don't have an array of 12 spinning hard disks, and are in fact never using nearly *close* to that rating.

I assure anyone here that a home computer, even a home server isn't going to be using as much energy as your 400w HID, unless the HID is in lights-off.

-spek
Exactly, the two can't even be compared....
 

spek9

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Some of those "smart" meters can record data precise enough that they can determine what type of appliances are running.
I typically have 10-30 herb plants lying around in my apartment, and several more even on my balcony in the summer. If anyone even thought to question me on my electricity bill, I'd simply say I have an indoor herb grow. If they don't like it, they can get a warrant. While they're fetching a warrant based on no probable cause at all, I've got an emergency plan to have plants removed and herbs added in my tent within 10 minutes.

-spek
 
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