And now it begins - Obamacare a very slow payer.

canndo said:
that, sir, is a shit laden crock, a misrepresention hung over still from one of many rightist lies.
do your homework.
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You are lying. $650 million was transferred from Medicare to fund ACA. It's even stated so in the original bill. What has happened to your standards? You are becoming just a knee-jerk libtard who completely disregards reality.
 
beenthere said:
Canndo, your left wing talking points are way outdated, the democrats have already admitted there will be cuts to medicare.
The new meme is, the cuts will be a good thing!


How a Cut Helps the Medicare Budget
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To some voters, it may sound counter-intuitive at first to think that cutting money from Medicare would improve, not weaken, its finances. But, again, this is a reduction in the future growth of Medicare spending over 10 years. And spending less is a good thing for Medicare’s finances — as it is for most people’s.
For instance, let’s say someone has a dedicated coffee budget but decides to drop a daily latte habit and instead buy regular coffee. That person’s coffee budget took a big cut in spending, enabling the budget to last longer. Instead of one month of lattes, this java fan can have two months of coffee. http://www.factcheck.org/2012/08/medicares-piggy-bank/
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Kind of stupid or dishonest logic there. Receiving less somehow means you can spend it anyway?
 
ChesusRice said:
So does "townhall" show any cuts to benefits or services to those on medicare?

NO?

Then you are a fat lying piece of shit
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Claiming that having less funds than before means spending will remain the same is the lie here. Your dishonest attempt to pretend otherwise proves your character.
 
canndo said:
Cuts to medicare or not, the ACA was not funded by funds extracted from medicare, only from useless and wasteful programs that insurance companies agreed to part with in favor of the ACA (seeing as how they wrote it, and tend to gain greatly from it no matter how it shakes out) - it is ever so tedious to have to correct the lies the right put forward, even at this late date. Kindly show me those death panels you folks were all so sure were being erected, or the 100,000 FBI agents that were being hired simply to enforce the ACA.

the right not only lies but perpetuates those lies as thought they were God's spoken truth - it is the opposite of "that was debunked".
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You are lying.
 
schuylaar said:
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ChesusRice again.
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You seem to reward liars by trying to give them rep on a regular basis. Frankly, your eager acceptance of even the most ridiculous lie just because you want to believe it has caused me to lose respect for you.
 
Red1966 said:
You seem to reward liars by trying to give them rep on a regular basis. Frankly, your eager acceptance of even the most ridiculous lie just because you want to believe it has caused me to lose respect for you.
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She managed to quickly adopt every crappy tactic the posters here on the left use. It serves to discredit her but she does not see that. However, she does not see a problem with receiving benefits taken at the point of a gun from other people so what should you expect? I am disappointed too...
 
nitro harley said:
It should be a good runner..What compression ratio are you looking at?
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10:1 reverse dome pistons. It's rounded up a little. Just talked to nhrs they said I should get Andrews n4 cams. They bolt in so no worries about push rods or valve clearance. Using the stock 883 heads I gain a squish band at the price of WOT at 6500. Where it will run out of air becuase of the small valves
 
Red1966 said:
Claiming that having less funds than before means spending will remain the same is the lie here. Your dishonest attempt to pretend otherwise proves your character.
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http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-medicare.php

Even though Obamacare "cuts" Medicare; it isn't really a cut, it's health care reform aimed at improving care for seniors. The fact is, millions more seniors will be covered under Obama's health care plan. Here are some things that the program does to improve Medicare:
• ObamaCare closes the "donut hole" that was causing Seniors not to be able to afford their prescriptions. (The Medicare "donut hole" is the Part D drug coverage limit where seniors must start paying out of pocket for their prescriptions.) In 2012, seniors got a 50 percent discount when buying brand name drugs and 14 percent discount on generic drugs covered by Medicare Part D. This reform gets stronger every year, increasing coverage and closing the donut hole until it disappears in 2020. From that point on, seniors will only pay usual drug co-pays.
• ObamaCare expands existing coverage for seniors, including preventive care and wellness visits without charging you for the Part B co-insurance or deductible. Seniors will no longer need to put off preventive care and check-ups due to costs. This reform has been active since 2011 and gives seniors better access to cancer screenings, wellness visits, personalized prevention plans, vaccines, flue shots and more.
• New initiatives to support care coordination, your doctor may get additional resources to make sure that your treatments are consistent.
• ObamaCare does not cut any benefits from Medicare Advantage.
• ObamaCare reduces payments to Medicare advantage rewarding those providers who increase the quality of their coverage. Medicare Advantage pays will now be more in line with other areas of Medicare
• ObamaCare reigns excess spending on Medicare Advantage, which is currently causing a burden on the tax payer that is disproportionate to the amount of people it helps. Medicare Advantage is run by private insurers and costs $1,000 more per person
• According to the CMS Medicare beneficiaries are expected to save, on average, about $4,200 over the next 10 years due to lower drug costs, free preventive services and reductions in the growth of health spending.
• The protection of Medicare is ensured for years to come. The life of the Medicare Trust fund will be extended to at least 2029—a 12-year extension due to reductions in waste, fraud and abuse, and Medicare costs, which will provide you with future savings on your premiums and coinsurance.
The fact is, ObamaCare Medicare Reform does a lot to help seniors, as the bill addresses Medicare more than any other single issue. Many of the attacks against ObamaCare in regard to Medicare are unfounded, although the program isn't perfect one only needs to look at how seniors have benefited from the care and protections of Massachusetts health care reform under Governor Romney to understand how ObamaCare will impact Medicare.
Children under the age of 26 are able to be covered under their parents insurance. The caveat, however, is that if your parents are over 65 and therefore receive Medicare you are no longer eligible to be covered under their insurance. While this may "make sense" it comes as a low blow to those who took the law at face value.
 
Yeah, "cuts" aren't "cuts". Magical reductions in healthcare and drug costs will happen because...well because I say so.
 
Red1966 said:
You seem to reward liars by trying to give them rep on a regular basis. Frankly, your eager acceptance of even the most ridiculous lie just because you want to believe it has caused me to lose respect for you.
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Skyler wins!!!
 
heckler73 said:
As soon as I saw the mole on the neck, I knew who it was. But admittedly I did not pick up on it the first time I saw it. I thought Schuylaar was crazy for posting a self-portrait.
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If she posted a real picture, a lot of guys would go blind from the hair on their palms. :)
 
ChesusRice said:
copy/paste from a source designed to sell the awesomeness of O'care
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Doesn't seem that long ago that you steadfastly refused to admit there were any cuts at all. Now I see you atleast believe there were cuts but they are somehow magic cuts that only touch waste/fraud and abuse.

Each new government regulation is another incentive for fraud. Meaningful Use is being manipulated all over the country as I type this. Practice Managers depend on full reimbursement and have learned how to make the paperwork look "right" to collect the maximum amount. Since our new system pretty much signals the end of private practice as we were used to, the franchises are being run now by non-medical professionals and instead by professionals who learn how to work around quotas, regulations and incentives with correct documentation.

Our health care delivery system is now put in the hands of hospital corporations and insurance more so than providers. Well done dems. History will not be kind.
 
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