another middle eastern conflict
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smoke the tires
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i was talking about the fact that we have been in some kind of conflict over there for pretty much the last 25 years. How many young people right out of school have been killed or injured? what will they be saying about us 100 years from now? We lived before oil and we will live after. Hard to teach your children that violence isn't the answer when thats all we do is go fight with other countries.
Ra$p0tin
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They have done so in the past. Bought someones invention that would vastly improved fuel mileage, only to disappear in the oil or auto manufacturers archives, never to be seen again, along with the patent.
ginwilly
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The documentary who killed the electric car raised a lot of questions.
It is about oil, notice that Obama did nothing until the Kurd oil fields were under duress, then its all " we gotta help these people by dropping bombs on them!" Then it was SOP, drop bombs and kill people, all the while commenting about how the USA is sending in Humanitarian aid.
Its always about oil, without oil there is no US dollar, without the US Dollar, the USA is just another 3rd world country. Without the USA being in control of the oil, the dollar is doomed. I mean the dollar is doomed anyway, but with oil we can make things work for another 20-30 years, without the oil we falter within 10.
Notice all the Russian companies being sanctioned? Ever notice Gazprom is never on that list?
Nikola Tesla was the most intelligent person on earth, He invented the Radio, LASERS, RADAR, AC Electricity, Generators, Robotics, Remote Control and numerous other devices, but his invention that he was most proud of was a "Dark Energy" device that provided limitless free power to anyone who wanted to harness it. After that JP Morgan defunded him, destroyed all of his equipment and experiments and black listed him. After which Tesla became penniless and broken.
Read more about Tesla, the guy that Einstein considered the most intelligent person who ever lived.
So lets say you make 95% of all your money from the sale of oil for energy, now someone invents something that makes oil useless as an energy source. How will you stay in business?
Harrekin
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Its funny how SmokeyDan has repeatedly been shown to be wrong about everything (the electric motors having no torque thing being the latest in his fail cascade) yet he still makes strong, definitive statements and says other people are wrong.
I think he should stick to discussions about where in the Happy Meal box to put the fries.
earnest_voice
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Actually after Morgan defunded him the FBI rocked up and confiscated all of his plans, designs etc on the basis of national security.
Military applications particularly weapons development trump consumer applications every time.
ginwilly
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Buy up alternative competition like BP and T. Boone Pickens.
He makes a good point though, the batteries suck.
Actually the FBI didn't do that until Tesla died. But yeah, HAARP is based on Tesla designs.
Harrekin
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Anyone with a smart phone knows current battery tech sucks balls.
Doesn't take a genius.
reasonevangelist
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lol...
...you mean currently available to consumers, in mass-produced hyperhyped devices.
(they've made a nano-battery already; just imagine how useful 1cm worth of nano-batteries could be!)
Don't forget: technology "far beyond" what is generally known and available, already exists. The problem is that "TPTB" are heavily invested in selling what they've already produced, and creating "upgrade hell," so that people are always buying the next new big thing in incremental advancements, not leaps and bounds. The businesses selling tech make more money by selling more devices, than by rapidly advancing new tech, thereby rapidly pushing current tech into obsolescence. Instead of making "iPhone 17" way better, they want to make it only just better enough than iPhone 16, so that people will buy a billion of them (or two).
SmokeyDan
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My experience with electric motors is limited to consumer goods.
The electric weed Eater has no where near the power of a gas one.
A battery powered golf cart feels weak compared to a gas one.
My mistake was my nomenclature, since I'm not an expert in the field.
There are electric motors, and then there are electric motors. The source of the electricity matters.
My comments on electric motors were with the understanding that we were severely limiting the scope of those devices.
If you have diesel engines generating electricity to power a vehicle it is superior.
If you eliminate petroleum from the equation we currently have very weak batteries compared to petroleum engines.
I have no problem admitting I'm wrong. And i suspect you're wrong about things from time to time also.
SmokeyDan
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You try to buy their technology and buy their cooperation in not developing it.
But, if someone figures out a thing, it is only a matter of time until someone else figures it out also.
A smart company would buy that guy out and develop his technology in an effort to corner the market and instead of being one of several huge energy companies, you would secure your future as the only energy company.
Even if we got out of the energy need with respect for oil, there would still be plenty of uses for it. The value of a barrel would go down.
The energy companies could adapt and develop this new product.
The real group that stands to lose the most is OPEC. Saudi Arabia has nothing to offer the world outside of oil and jihad.
reasonevangelist
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The problem is that if you figured out how to power the entire planet for free... you would NOT want "some megacorporation" monopolizing and controlling that, and charging the populace for something they could actually have for free. This is precisely why people get disappeared and have convenient "accidents."
NLXSK1
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Nothing is ever free. There would still be maintenance and distribution costs.
reasonevangelist
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Let's go with "free as in freedom."
Buy once, self-maintain, free from the grip of $300+/month electric bill. (you could optionally pay someone to maintain whatever device for you, but you would "own" your own power... which they're now trying to criminalize!)
NLXSK1
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You can buy a diesel generator and run a house free from the grid. If you buy a big enough building it probably comes with a boiler that could be used to generate electricity... Then there is wind and solar. I think mostly it is still cheaper to be part of the grid which is why everyone does it.
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