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ismokealotofpot said:

This thread is funny shit. 40 plus pounds dry off ten tiny plants gtfo. thcfarmer sounds like its full of liars. with my exp yield has to do with genetics. Iv'e grown plants 7 foot tall down to two foot tall. Iv'e had 4 footers produce the same amount as 7 footers. unless your growing outside in a green house your not getting a pound off a plant. I can fake good pics tell ya what, Ill grow some trees outside move them into a garage and put a cfl on them would you believe I grew it under a cfl? I agree homeboy is sitting on too much weight giving caregivers a black eye people like that will spoil the whole thing for us.

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when you say people aren't getting a LB off a plant unless its grown in greenhouse you are completely 100% wrong it does depend on the strain for the yields also depends on the growers experience but i grow/have grown over 30 different strains( not necessarialy at the same time) but the lowest yielder i have is around 12oz per plant and my biggest so far has been 24 oz and thats with 2-3 plants under each 1000watt bulb and my AVERAGE yields are over a LB INDOORS ... i also know people that are pulling the same amounts.. so just because you aren't yielding that much doesn't mean others aren't.. also me and my girlfriend grow together only run 72 plants but were good for 30oz 15 for each of us so the yields are legal numbers

For the most part I completely agree with you. What you are saying is very reasonable. It is absolutely an honest living. I do believe the important part is to take care of your patients, have the best quality, and to keep the cost as low as possible. I believe that it can all be accomplished. I believe you said $280 per, I honestly think that is a little high, but I paid $240 for a half at the dispensary two days ago. I think that it is completely possible to support yourself reasonably and care for your patients, other patients and to help the community also. Win/Win's are not always fairytales. lol.

gladstoned said:

For the most part I completely agree with you. What you are saying is very reasonable. It is absolutely an honest living. I do believe the important part is to take care of your patients, have the best quality, and to keep the cost as low as possible. I believe that it can all be accomplished. I believe you said $280 per, I honestly think that is a little high, but I paid $240 for a half at the dispensary two days ago. I think that it is completely possible to support yourself reasonably and care for your patients, other patients and to help the community also. Win/Win's are not always fairytales. lol.

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who are you agreeing with?

Jack. But honestly, this is a topic where I can see all sides point of view, and like most things the best balance is in the middle.

gladstoned said:

For the most part I completely agree with you. What you are saying is very reasonable. It is absolutely an honest living. I do believe the important part is to take care of your patients, have the best quality, and to keep the cost as low as possible. I believe that it can all be accomplished. I believe you said $280 per, I honestly think that is a little high, but I paid $240 for a half at the dispensary two days ago. I think that it is completely possible to support yourself reasonably and care for your patients, other patients and to help the community also. Win/Win's are not always fairytales. lol.

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I assume you are agreeing with me, so I'm gonna respond. All those figures can be halved, because I could easily double my production without doubling my costs. But then, I'd not be in compliance with anything in a legal state. My costs are based on utility rates here, and I'm sure that they are higher in Cali at least. When one gets an O (or a pound for that matter) of MY stuff, there isn't a stick anywhere in there big enough to poke a hole in a rolling paper. I MANICURE the fuck out of my weed. I also dry it and give it AT LEAST a one month cure before it even sees the light of day. I can assure you that I have the one of the finest quality products available anywhere near me in terms of potency, flavor, and bag appeal. Not to mention it is 100% organic! To ME, that commands a higher price. If folks are willing to put up with a bit of lumber in the sack, and a shorter cure (if any) I could sell for less no doubt. But then, it's not legal here, and I'm NOT a caretaker. According to some out there, I am a slimy drug dealer!! LOL. MY limited clientèle demand (and deserve) the quality I give them, and my reputation is only as good as the product I hand them. I may not the the BEST out there, but I defy you to find a better product anywhere within 200 mile of me.
I am not looking to support myself reasonably, That is a relative concept. Reasonable to some is a 2 bedroom apartment with all the bills paid and a full tank of gas. I live well, commensurate with others at my age, but have given up a lot. Like vacations (can't happen with a grow going), I have a 45' sailboat I haven't seen in literally 6 years, and I have pared way down the amount of people who can come to my house (not necessarily a bad thing, there).

Jack Harer said:

I assume you are agreeing with me, so I'm gonna respond. All those figures can be halved, because I could easily double my production without doubling my costs. But then, I'd not be in compliance with anything in a legal state. My costs are based on utility rates here, and I'm sure that they are higher in Cali at least. When one gets an O (or a pound for that matter) of MY stuff, there isn't a stick anywhere in there big enough to poke a hole in a rolling paper. I MANICURE the fuck out of my weed. I also dry it and give it AT LEAST a one month cure before it even sees the light of day. I can assure you that I have the one of the finest quality products available anywhere near me in terms of potency, flavor, and bag appeal. Not to mention it is 100% organic! To ME, that commands a higher price. If folks are willing to put up with a bit of lumber in the sack, and a shorter cure (if any) I could sell for less no doubt. But then, it's not legal here, and I'm NOT a caretaker. According to some out there, I am a slimy drug dealer!! LOL. MY limited clientèle demand (and deserve) the quality I give them, and my reputation is only as good as the product I hand them. I may not the the BEST out there, but I defy you to find a better product anywhere within 200 mile of me.
I am not looking to support myself reasonably, That is a relative concept. Reasonable to some is a 2 bedroom apartment with all the bills paid and a full tank of gas. I live well, commensurate with others at my age, but have given up a lot. Like vacations (can't happen with a grow going), I have a 45' sailboat I haven't seen in literally 6 years, and I have pared way down the amount of people who can come to my house (not necessarily a bad thing, there).

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i as well let my herb take its time drying i let it hang dry for 21 days then cure in jars for 2 weeks at the minimum. i also manicure my buds the best i possibly can and i trim all kholas down to about 2-3 gram buds with the tiniest stem possible. ive always been that way and for the people who dont trim your buds as well YOU SHOULD it tastes better, burns slower, and burns less "hot".. i have patients that ask how and why my bud tastes/smells so good 1.great genetics 2.its grown under ideal conditions 3. its 100% organic 4. harvested at peak harvest time 5. drying slowly in a controlled environment

In my eyes I think you are making one of the most honest livings out there. Many paychecks may be legal, but that doesn't make them right. We can question just about any profession out there. Well, except prostitution. Funny, if it can't be exploited then the government must keep it illegal.

bowlfullofbliss said:

WARNING WARNING.........You a cop........shouldn't be asking questions like that here. WTF do yo think 99% of the growers on this entire site are doing. DUMB question.

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Quick question, who the fuck was talking to you ?
I wasn't asking 99% of the people on here I was asking 1.
No go back to minding your own business and get your nose out of mine.

ismokealotofpot said:

So do you have to go back to the doctor pay his fee plus give the state their fee all over again? I wasn't sure about this, I thought you just paid a renewal fee of half price.

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Jack:

"And for those who disdain "drug dealers", first off, where did you get pot before it became quasi-legal where you live? The weed man was your best friend back then. Where do you think that folks in non legal states get theirs? Oh, maybe they aren't supposed to smoke pot anymore, it might jeopardize the legal status in your state. Don't lump weed growers/sellers in with drug dealers. The ONLY difference between a caregiver and a weed dealer is a very fine (and precarious) line. If weed became legal here, I'd be called a caregiver, not a menace to society. Stop being smug that you have legal status and we don't. "



You're missing the point here. I don't have any issue with people that want to grow, and sell weed. Have at it. I'm not judging you. What I do have a problem with is people taking advantage of a medical state, becoming a "caregiver", and then growing obscene amounts of weed completely disregarding the law that the people of the state voted on. I don't want to see my mother-in-law, who is dying of cancer, have to turn to the black market to get her meds because some punk that just turned 21 wants to become a full time drug dealer and is using the mmmp as cover for what he's doing.

We have an Attorney General here in Michigan who is waging war on the medical marijuana situation here. They will use EVERY case like this to paint the entire movement in a bad light, and ultimately get the law repealed. Your desire to grow weed for a living (when you have other means of supporting yourself) does not trump the rights of the very sick people that this program was intended for.

kindfarms420 said:

i as well let my herb take its time drying i let it hang dry for 21 days then cure in jars for 2 weeks at the minimum. i also manicure my buds the best i possibly can and i trim all kholas down to about 2-3 gram buds with the tiniest stem possible. ive always been that way and for the people who dont trim your buds as well YOU SHOULD it tastes better, burns slower, and burns less "hot".. i have patients that ask how and why my bud tastes/smells so good 1.great genetics 2.its grown under ideal conditions 3. its 100% organic 4. harvested at peak harvest time 5. drying slowly in a controlled environment

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Yup, that's how ya get great tasting meds. The 21 day hang is a little long (for me)..I hang 7, paper bag 7, then jar for cure. But I do everything else just like you. And growing in soil, with organic ferts, just plain produces better tasting meds..period.

bob harris said:

Yup, that's how ya get great tasting meds. The 21 day hang is a little long (for me)..I hang 7, paper bag 7, then jar for cure. But I do everything else just like you. And growing in soil, with organic ferts, just plain produces better tasting meds..period.

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its the only way to go! i only let a couple strains that are dense as rocks hang dry for 21 if there not as dense usually 14 at the very minimum but none of them are very airy

kindfarms420 said:

its the only way to go! i only let a couple strains that are dense as rocks hang dry for 21 if there not as dense usually 14 at the very minimum but none of them are very airy

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I grow almost exclusively sativa's..so my buds don't get huge..they are all individual buds as compared to "cola tips, but they are plenty dense...if they were big ole indica buds..i'd let em hang longer..

And somehow the taste of plants grown in soil is just...better. Remember, the cannabis cup used to only have one division. They had to create a hydro division so those guys could win something...

medable amn said:

Quick question, who the fuck was talking to you ?
I wasn't asking 99% of the people on here I was asking 1.
No go back to minding your own business and get your nose out of mine.

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Blow me.......quit asking dumb questions.

bowlfullofbliss said:

Blow me.......quit asking dumb questions.

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Great just my luck.
Not only do I get a troll he turns out to be a queer too.

medable amn said:

Great just my luck.
Not only do I get a troll he turns out to be a queer too.

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Now that there's funny shit, I don't care who you are...

Buddy and Jack, unless you guys never grew before you got your card, then this person just called you a drug dealer....which is the very same thing you work very hard on making sure you're not.

I'm the only person to see that I guess, and now I'm accused of being a troll. In order to have the knowledge to produce high quality meds, one needs experience, and the last couple of years isn't gonna do that, is it?

I'm brash, and call them as I see them, but that comment by Mr. Medable Amn just set himself up for it. Are you not offended by being called the very thing you get so upset at others being....because if you grew one plant before your legal license I guess you're just that, and that sucks being judged like that. That is exactly what that was......being judged for growing cannabis.

I don't have a med card, and I don't live in a state that has a sense of humor either. So, if by growing and providing a product to people who would otherwise have to resort to Cartel weed makes me a "drug dealer" then Hey, who am I to argue semantics? I am comfortable with what I do, and sleep very well at night. To me. a drug dealer sells whatever substance his clientèle wants, no matter if it is destroying lives. I can't do that. I feel my product enhances lives, and all my people are adults. I aint out by the schoolyard hawking dimebags & dubs. I do QPs to professional people who appreciate the finer nuances of my product. I have worked very hard all my life, striving to be the very best I can be at whatever I do whether its plying my legitimate trade, or running loads from Jamaica or Colombia. I have turned my efforts to growing, and have never looked back.
No, I don't get upset here. It's the internet, and this is just another forum. I don't really take anything to heart here, but my tolerance for stupidity is waxing thin, thus my posts above. Man wants to call me anything and I could care less, believe that.

Ok I must not be as good of a grower as you guys because I cant get a pound off a plant. I can accept that and Im proud of you can do it we all should be taking lessons from you guys then. and to medible all you have to do is vedg a plant until it gets 4 foot then flower it you can ask kindfarms or jack they can grow pounds in no time. Im not playing your stupid fucking games Im better than that.

kindfarms420 said:

when you say people aren't getting a LB off a plant unless its grown in greenhouse you are completely 100% wrong it does depend on the strain for the yields also depends on the growers experience but i grow/have grown over 30 different strains( not necessarialy at the same time) but the lowest yielder i have is around 12oz per plant and my biggest so far has been 24 oz and thats with 2-3 plants under each 1000watt bulb and my AVERAGE yields are over a LB INDOORS ... i also know people that are pulling the same amounts.. so just because you aren't yielding that much doesn't mean others aren't.. also me and my girlfriend grow together only run 72 plants but were good for 30oz 15 for each of us so the yields are legal numbers

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see your a different animal than I. my flower room is only 1400 watts

ismokealotofpot said:

Ok I must not be as good of a grower as you guys because I cant get a pound off a plant. I can accept that and Im proud of you can do it we all should be taking lessons from you guys then. and to medible all you have to do is vedg a plant until it gets 4 foot then flower it you can ask kindfarms or jack they can grow pounds in no time. Im not playing your stupid fucking games Im better than that.

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You'll never get a pound from a plant indoors. And if anyone says they can, well ... I may not be from Missouri, but I still gotta see that one. My personal best is just under 5 oz per bush style plant (one time!!), but usually I got just over 3.5 per plant. The key to getting better yields indoors is to stop looking at yield per plant, but at the yield per square foot. I get only the one main Cola from each plant, but I cram 72 of them into a 32 sq/ft area. I generally get an once and a half dry from each Cola, and there are 72 of them on the table. Make sense? It didn't to me at first. Just the sheer number of plants scared the living shit out of me. But once I got my mind around it, I finally broke the 2.5 pound barrier I had hit trying to grow conventional bush style plants. SOG and SCROG are variations of this, maximizing the yield per sq/ft. Ever notice that when you look at the expected yield for a strain on a seed bank website, the yield is expressed in grams per sq/ft? If you can get real good at SOG, or SCROG, you'll get what I get. It took me a bit to get shit dialed in, finding a high yielding strain that had a powerhouse kick to it. My Sat hybrids have massive main colas, because the plant only produces that one main cola and isn't splitting it's resources to develop the secondary colas and buds.

And to dude who got 12 to 24 oz from one plant under a 1K, all I can say is if there aren't pics, it never happened!! That one I'd HAVE to see in real life, up close and personal before I'd EVER believe that. I'm not calling anyone a liar, I'm just sayin'...........
If you could show me that in person, I'd be your apprentice for life. I'd shine your shoes, take out the garbage, do any menial task you required just for the privilege of basking in your glory!!!