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PopAndSonGrows said:
Still seems stupid and hype driven.
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No question that their is hype around moonbow. It's a fantastic strain. Some claim one of the best ever created. TBH this seed drop on the moonbow isn't for the tent guys. It's priced for people in the game who know what they are getting and what to do with it. People to this day still pay $350 or more for zips from dispensaries. You popped a single flavorpack yourself and found it to be astonishing. You make posts all the time about it. But you won't pay 350$ for a pack that has more potential than flavorpack which dropped at 200$? To me it sounds like you can't afford it and are mad about it. You talk about your old lady not letting you spend on seeds. Yeah it sucks, but don't hate because you got priced out.
 
HELL NAH i ain't paying 30+ dollhairs a bean. No frickin way.

I had "access to" Flavour and yes, it was astonishing, anyone sitting on it needs to get it out there.
 
This is sad but if they drop the Rainbow Belts price at 125 US dollar, they will sell 50% less. they probably looking right-now for 12 pack that they could sell for 1000 $$ ( even more ). Inhouse Genetics will probably do the same magic trick in the next month.
 
As legality sweeps, free market capitalism will offer it’s own market pressures. Prices will stabilize but they will likely be a lot higher than you want them to be. You already see it with what happened on the thug pug gear, until the price stabilizes people will be willing to purchase all and sell it at a higher price. Of course by stabilized I mean hit the market equilibrium where the price matches what people are willing to pay. That’s just economics. Same with these beans, even though they’re that price I bet they still sell out so is it too high? I would argue the price was too low if people would still pay a higher price, price of goods finds its own equilibrium, this is the only altruistic principle you will find in economics.
 
Fanbois will always pay the price, no matter what it is. Doesn't make it "the right price" or a "fair price" because everyone buys them up.

I mean, I'm a fan of Archive genetics, just not a fan of their seed pricing structure. Clones pop up for 20+, now THAT I'll take a chance on.
 
colocowboy said:
As legality sweeps, free market capitalism will offer it’s own market pressures. Prices will stabilize but they will likely be a lot higher than you want them to be. You already see it with what happened on the thug pug gear, until the price stabilizes people will be willing to purchase all and sell it at a higher price. Of course by stabilized I mean hit the market equilibrium where the price matches what people are willing to pay. That’s just economics. Same with these beans, even though they’re that price I bet they still sell out so is it too high? I would argue the price was too low if people would still pay a higher price, price of goods finds its own equilibrium, this is the only altruistic principle you will find in economics.
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Breeders are more akin to monopolies than free markets.. they aren't selling the same seeds. If you want "Moonbow" or whatever, you have one source who can name his price. He's not competing with anyone so he has no need to lower his prices... especially if people are paying it.
 
I have had mixed success with Archive seeds. The dispensary is nearby and it's easy for me to go and snag a pack. Yeah, it's expensive, but it's also convenient and, other than high prices, they have a good reputation for quality. I am only a small time hobbyist grower. I usually grow 4 plants in 3 gallon containers and that provides me with more than enough to work with until the next run. I guess if there was a strain that sounded like what I was looking for, then I might pay the price. Moonbow doesn't sound like what I'm looking for, though.

I actually think that pricing certain things really high, sometimes intrigues people...like "I wonder what a strain that costs 100 per seed will be like"...so they go for it. And, I'd also bet that, IF they pay that much for a seed, then they report how much they love it (even if they don't really love it).
 
jasonryan00 said:
how about you just don't buy it and move on.
Have you personally grown any of his gear? if not then how relevant is your opinion on the matter?
Go buy cheap packs and move along
As someone that has grown a lot of his gear you get exactly what you pay for
yes the prices are high but quality costs more money right????
just cross the plants from the pack, do a seed increase and justify the price.
His gear isn't really for just the ordinary hobbist hence the price.
But for people that have huge canopy to fill and markets to supply, consistency, quality and stability matter above all else.
They don't have time to search through a million packs and only get garbage and wasted time, his packs has multiple keepers in it. it's not only saves time but money that larger operators absolutely have no tolerance for wasting either
in many of the major markets in the US recreational and medical you see a large amount of what sells on shelves is his GEAR
do you think that is just a coincidence??
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I've grown White Gold, Flavour Pack, and provided two seedlings of Slurricane to a friend. And as stated I am a fan of their genetics. Just not their wonky pricing structure. Flavour Pack is still probably the most impressive thing I've personally grown, but I still wouldn't pay 3 fitty for a pack. That's just me.
 
i ran a 6 pack freebie of slurricane F1 and got 4 amazing keepers out of it and thats his freebies....
like stated above fletcher is one of a small handful of breeders that can justify the high price because of the all the work he puts into the pack
but people pay these high prices for other breeders packs.
seed junkie to mention one
even aficionado seeds has ridiculous prices, but from people who have spent the crazy money on his packs report they are very lackluster and not worth the price.
when the lines are not what anyone would consider stable
 
Yeah but does Aficionado have a 200%+ difference between prices of available stuff in their library? Last I checked, even their pricing was "consistent" if not ridiculously high, with some sold-out stuff going for way higher. Isn't their stuff more "boutique" and limited anyway? I've never seen a "numbered" pack of Archives.
 
jasonryan00 said:
i ran a 6 pack freebie of slurricane F1 and got 4 amazing keepers out of it and thats his freebies....
like stated above fletcher is one of a small handful of breeders that can justify the high price because of the all the work he puts into the pack
but people pay these high prices for other breeders packs.
seed junkie to mention one
even aficionado seeds has ridiculous prices, but from people who have spent the crazy money on his packs report they are very lackluster and not worth the price.
when the lines are not what anyone would consider stable
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Capulator and Seed Junky are a couple that are definitely worth the price, especially back when Seed Junky was charging $150 a pack.
 
PopAndSonGrows said:
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Not the breeders site but way to try, bud.
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The breeders site is a joke. My buddy tried to get in on a drop, He did it sold out in minutes. Was refunded the next day drop was pushed back. He didn't bother trying a second time. Can't say to many well run operations do that. Supposedly many less beans were available the second real drop. Assuming someone offered a pretty penny for most before they hit the market even. So exclusive they will refund your ass
 
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