: ) i like the debate going on here dont. Darth i would love to see what you could do with one of these lights man. Egos and religions aside you make some nice product due to many years of experience accumulated with HID lighting. You have the dialed in rooms C02 supplementation HYDRO all of that wouldn't it make more sense for you to do a control run on them? You see they work with the grows here, even with newbie growing issues going on. I know its hard to change from what you know and what works well for you as is buuut what if you like it? I try stuff i dont like all the time cause i know taste spuds change like technology, finally accepted asparagus as a decent veggy to eat lol...
just saying you obviously dont mind spending tons of money for a dialed in room what do you have to lose?