RawBudzski
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People walking out of church claiming to be christians are usually on the same level as someone stepping out the barbershop w/ a fresh buzzcut claiming to be Rastafarian.
Brought to you by ROME!People walking out of church claiming to be christians are usually on the same level as someone stepping out the barbershop w/ a fresh buzzcut claiming to be Rastafarian.
Ooh.. that is very good. I just buzzed my hair last night, my rasta friend is on the way here.. & The first thing I shall speak to him about are my new dreadseeds. <3 ii'R Rastafari' praise Jah!It's not stubble. They're dreadseeds. cn
You go out into the world pretending to have answers without being able to list any rationale what so ever. The ideas you propose involve cruelty, prejudice, and fascism while devaluing the love humans feel for one another. You glorify ignorance while pretending to knowledge, and when your ideas are criticized you play the drama queen hurt card in an attempt to exploit emotions to gain tolerance and quiet opposition. At the same time your contempt for those who disagree is obvious and you have made it clear which fate you would pick for them. You...deserve..to be alone.Not surprised... Just feeling alone... You guys have a good one...
I'm also surprised, for I cannot imagine an experience for which you are at a loss for words It is both magical and maddening that each of us have such disparate mental experiences, even to the exact same stimuli...Tyler, i wish i knew how to respond to this. I am amazed that you have not had experiences mediated by acid or shrooms that you can't put into words. I had an opposite experience, which for one as verbal as I seemed like a warning: words are not the territory.
What our comparative experiences seem to underline is that individual humans have rather diverse experiences to similar stimuli. This makes me even less confident that a true science of the mind is even on the horizon, to say nothing of it being within our grasp. I feel apologetic for being constrained to plead such profound ignorance. cn
...you're fortunate to be able to describe them. I'm guessing it also comes out as violin playing? I can't put most of it into words because it is an extremely personal thing. Also because the story itself is pretty crazy and not something to be playing with on a forum. I like to give bits and pieces so that people can go on their own and piece their own puzzle together. One thing I can say is that this has a lot to do with a person's sexual energies and how they use them. Also, mine does come out as art so even more incomprehensible considering I lean toward the abstract. Oy
What would be one thing I could answer...?
The Westboro Baptist clowns are probably the last "true" Christian's. Not even kidding, they probably are. 99% of Christian's practice some sort of modified version of Christianity that fits into their lifestyle.I have never in my life met a real Christian, let alone on RIU.
Perhaps those who call themselves Christians are more like the folks who spent time with the fellow (Gentiles, Tax Collectors, etc.) and admired him. Jesus may have preferred polite company to 'adherents' anyway.The Westboro Baptist clowns are probably the last "true" Christian's. Not even kidding, they probably are. 99% of Christian's practice some sort of modified version of Christianity that fits into their lifestyle.
You go out into the world pretending to have answers without being able to list any rationale what so ever. The ideas you propose involve cruelty, prejudice, and fascism while devaluing the love humans feel for one another. You glorify ignorance while pretending to knowledge, and when your ideas are criticized you play the drama queen hurt card in an attempt to exploit emotions to gain tolerance and quiet opposition. At the same time your contempt for those who disagree is obvious and you have made it clear which fate you would pick for them. You...deserve..to be alone.
Spoken like a true Christian. Thank you for making our point.Whatever man... U talk a slick talk... But I highly doubt u r someone who has any real backbone... I truely dont care what u think of me, and I am by no means alone... U should cut your tounge out, and fry it up with some eggs, and go make yourself a nice omelet... Or just try getting offa the computer and getting a life... Thats what I think u deserve... U wanna talk shit, fine... I'm not deciding anyone's fate, but my own... Hope that omelet tastes good...
At its most fundamental, I would say that being a Christian means subscribing to what was said at the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew Ch. 5,6, and 7). That is the clearest event where the guy called Jesus created a venue where he said what he had to say. It would be hard to avoid the 'Sermon' if the goal is to try to interpret what the will of Jesus was.What is it? Christianity. To be like Jesus? Or Christ? How can anyone hope to understand when all there is, has been combined, handed down stories.
It is the worship of what the guys around said later. Peter never saw the risen Lord, but just took the word of Thomas and Simon. He had barely escaped the torment himself. Peter was convince the Apocalypse would be certainly be very soon. So, like the Spaceship Cult, he ran to prepare the Way. Jesus, as far as we know, never said any of that. Jesus told about 20 or so parables, right?
Peter, thinking Roman women should not conceive into the coming global disaster, preached celibacy from his
own hymn book. For that he was executed.
The promise of Salvation came much later, in John 3:16. Jesus never said that either. Just gushy hope from John.
Spoken like a true Christian. Thank you for making our point.
There are threads for that and we are here in this one talking about this. If your views are being challenged, by all means, retire. Christians and in general, all the Western religions are very violent of thought and very judgmental. It has morphed into a power structure where it's OK to be Holy and condemn those that "are not" Holy. (somehow??) It is supposed to attract those and help them be more meek. But, how can it help? Only the knowledge of Self can help, is my personal experience.No problem... Now, can we get back to something else a little bit more constructive, like I dunno... mabye growing pot and talking about that for a while???
Is this an example of the tolerance you were crying about a few pages ago? You are a sadistic hypocrite who can't even keep his own words consistent, yet I am the one who needs to get a life? The truth is you want your feeble beliefs respected even if it means imposing on other's basic rights. You seek total submission to your God and react with violent inclinations when you do not get it. If there exists a less moral framework than the one you are displaying, I do not know of it.Whatever man... U talk a slick talk... But I highly doubt u r someone who has any real backbone... I truely dont care what u think of me, and I am by no means alone... U should cut your tounge out, and fry it up with some eggs, and go make yourself a nice omelet... Or just try getting offa the computer and getting a life... Thats what I think u deserve... U wanna talk shit, fine... I'm not deciding anyone's fate, but my own... Hope that omelet tastes good...
I would like to change my position on your stance. I am skeptical of faith and feel that all spirituality should be put to test, but you seem to base yours on experience (albeit under the effects of perturbed brain chemistry). You know what you know and that is based on what you have personally been awed by. That is not blind faith. That is not group think....faith is built on the 'rock' (Peter - Pineal). This is what is meant when they wrote about uniting the head and the heart, the right and the left, the dark and the light - etc. The pineal is activated and the 'eye of God' is the result. In common terms that equates to seeing both sides of the story, etc. Think about it like this "the I of God" <---that's the switch, a person recognizes where they are from - who they are from. It builds compassion. "build my church on the rock - peter - faith" - that's the compassion reference. So, yes, faith is the main tenet of belief (in all faiths).
So, that's my take on it from what I've come to understand through experience.