thank you for your advice, it sounds like that's what I need to do, but I can't afford to spend a couple hundred dollars let alone 100 dollars right now, i'm planning on letting them veg for a whiiiiiiile, unless i can afford to buy decent lights and speed up the growing process. i'm MORE CONCERNED about the larvae/gnat situation. it's freaking me out, i looked up the cinnamon technique and it didn't sound to promising, i'm not doubting you, but what purpose would it serve? i know i use cinnamon sticks around the house because it keeps ants away, but wouldn't the most logical explanation be to buy the yellow traps for the adult gnats and use something else like the hydrogen peroxide, and cover the soil with a 1/2 inch of sand? H2O2 is supposed to kill the larvae, the traps would catch the gnats preventing them from laying eggs in the soil, and if there were still larvae after all that any remaining gnats wouldn't be able to lay eggs on the sand and the larvae wouldn't be able to reach the top of the soil.....@ CN, the preflowering and showing of sex....that's if I let them veg for a while correct, wouldn't that be better to keep it at the rate i'm going, maybe buy like 4 more of the cfl's i have because all the higher wattage ones i wouldnt have a lamp that would hold that much wattage, 300 watt cfl? damn, do those even exist? lol, or is it more of a floodlight.....now i'm rambling. you guys ARE helping me, and I appreciate the time you are taking out of your day to help a complete stranger.