Aussie Growers Thread

[stonerhermit]

No need to be so defensive ahah. I just said I'm paranoid about using a system like TOR because it has everyone always trying to prove it to be not safe and has had breaches before. As mentioned, the best hiding place is the most obvious one. I never said people are watching me, they watch anything online and target anyone who attempts to hide more then those that don't.

I understand how it works completely but if it is the most anonymous system yet it has been breached on more then one occasion by the public, whose to say that the government has breached it but didnt release it? There is not need to keep explaining it, I know how it works and in theory it's a solid idea. And again don't be so defensive because your forum hasn't been popular yet. You just sound desperate.

smarter person would have recognized it as anger and frustration rather than defensive and desperate but hey, even i misjudge people sometimes and seems i gave too much credit there - and, n, you think you understand it but the continuous ignorant comments show otherwise - you would've also had everything you just said answered if you had read your messages there but i guess that'll take time as it seems you think its safer to use other people's computers (they won't bother monitoring what you're doing right?). there really is nothing more sad than people stuck in old ways of thinking trying to apply the same logic to new things and trying to sound like they know what they're talking about - just provides misinformation to other people who make the mistake of taking them seriously. this is fairly normal in old people but i'm surprised a youngster such as yourself is already stuck

 

[copperheadroad1]

chillax people, we getting our grows on??, or what, mofo, kers,

this is about as late as id want to be putting in a grow.


i even just got my homebrew on as well, so hopefully after summer ill have plenty weed and beers

thats two, things i dont like running out of

 

[stonerhermit]

chillax people

ok mum what're you growing?

 

[stonerhermit]

k, enough from me for today - btw, jimmy, don't need to be paranoid anymore, just deleted your account. that admin approval you found annoying is there to keep membership limited to the community it aims to form - if the site was about popularity, it would be open to public i was persistent in trying to bring you into the community as i though once you use it you'll get over the paranoia and be a good representative but i misjudged. don't think there's any need to converse on the matter further.

 

[JimmyRecard]

k, enough from me for today - btw, jimmy, don't need to be paranoid anymore, just deleted your account. that admin approval you found annoying is there to keep membership limited to the community it aims to form - if the site was about popularity, it would be open to public i was persistent in trying to bring you into the community as i though once you use it you'll get over the paranoia and be a good representative but i misjudged. don't think there's any need to converse on the matter further.

All good, no need to be a bitch about it and waste my time. You've desperately been asking me to join your forum and when I finally do and decide I'll take some time to start posting there you delete the account. Anyway just for your information it's against the rules to advertise another website here without admin permission

Anyway cheers

 

[echelon1k1]

Just wanted to put in my 2cents in regards to online privacy...

Police don't need to have you in their sights for surveillance. They just collect everything they can and store it.

The use of data mining coupled with SIGINT (Signals intelligence) means there isn't online privacy. Law enforcement & intelligence agenicies are tapped into the backbone of the nations telecommunications infrastructure. Data mining everything. Telstra owns the infrastructure and more often than not you will find that our intel. agencies generally have some sort of relay on-site that mirrors isp data for storage and furutre analysis.

We also have a deal with the US & UK in regards to the ECHELON network. The echelon network is a worldwide surveillance system, that grabs every communication regardless of type and data mines it into a central server. This programme is in partnership with the US NSA & UK GCHQ. In Aus its run by DSD - Defence Signals Directorate.

So if LEO's really wanted to monitor you they can, but i'm sure they have better things to do. Don't forget they need to justify their existance through convictions. If there's no money in it they won't bother. Unless of course, your a career criminal.

 

[sippinslurpies]

I know why it happened, I had my air compressor plugged in there too and it woulda turned on once the pressure in the tank dropped and flicked the over load switch.

 

[stonerhermit]

All good, no need to be a bitch about it and waste my time. You've desperately been asking me to join your forum and when I finally do and decide I'll take some time to start posting there you delete the account. Anyway just for your information it's against the rules to advertise another website here without admin permission

Anyway cheers

don't make me laugh jimmy - not in the mood - you decided to start posting?? was that before or after you've put in a lot of effort here to discourage other people from trying it out?? and you seem obsessed with desperation; that might be your motivator in life, no need to project it onto others. as i said, i mistakenly thought you would have been a good asset to the community so made the effort, got proven wrong.

and, y, i'm aware of the rules of this place (this bit isn't for you, its for RIU) and probably been reported already - there's a difference between a public forum and an exclusive private community so i have no intention of 'taking' RIU users, the sites serve different purposes - i'm sure RIU admins realize this considering i'm still here.

 

[stonerhermit]

I know why it happened, I had my air compressor plugged in there too and it woulda turned on once the pressure in the tank dropped and flicked the over load switch.

i think i need to learn more about this aero stuff - sounds like a fun science experiment how does it compare to hydro setups in terms of ability to go stealth?

 

[stonerhermit]

Just wanted to put in my 2cents in regards to online privacy...

well put - although it would be interesting to see if they are capable of getting anything useful from encrypted/torrified content they capture. if they can do it then so can other nations which means many blue activists, LE and military (including on the field) communications would be compromised.

Putting aside the technical arguments, i'd rather work with a tech started and still in use by the US Navy! If there is a way for LE to track (and more importantly make sense) of tor communications, i'm sure the sailors will be informed and they'll fix it or get their cia pals, who also use it for their communications to do it for them . being an open source project, we also get their fixes bottom line is intelligence agencies and the military are not going to let their comms be compromised to help LE catch some stoners

the main problem as highlighted by recent events is hackers rather than LE, looks like they brought DPR to his knees! but once again, being insignificant helps there - DPR makes millions (if not billions) from his operations - i'll stick to not making any money from it i think lol.



...oops, i get a feeling i just triggered a whole bunch of keywords for those traffic analysis puters :/ ... so to reiterate; "i'll stick to not making any money from it"

 

[echelon1k1]

well put - although it would be interesting to see if they are capable of getting anything useful from encrypted/torrified content they capture. if they can do it then so can other nations which means many blue activists, LE and military (including on the field) communications would be compromised

You mentioned the navy still use TOR. Is that in regards to their open source comms? I was curious as they use NIPRNet, SIPRNet, JWICS & NSANet. Plus a host of others that are a lot more secure than TOR.

While i definetley agree our intel. agencies wouldn't farm out their surveillance capabilities to catch stoners, I've been watching the steady rise of Police (NSW) abusing wiretaps and intercepts. The whole debarcle is currently in-front of the ombudsman, but probably wont go further than that as the coppers don’t want another royal commission.

I wouldn’t put it past those lazy bastards to cut corners, going around the standard legal procedures to get a wiretapp or warrant, just to make an easy arrest.

 

[stonerhermit]

You mentioned the navy still use TOR. Is that in regards to their open source comms? I was curious as they use NIPRNet, SIPRNet, JWICS & NSANet. Plus a host of others that are a lot more secure than TOR.

While i definetley agree our intel. agencies wouldn't farm out their surveillance capabilities to catch stoners, I've been watching the steady rise of Police (NSW) abusing wiretaps and intercepts. The whole debarcle is currently in-front of the ombudsman, but probably wont go further than that as the coppers don’t want another royal commission.

I wouldn’t put it past those lazy bastards to cut corners, going around the standard legal procedures to get a wiretapp or warrant, just to make an easy arrest.

that laziness is a good guarantee with tor - even if they got a warrant it is way too difficult for them to compromise tor so they just resort to easier methods such as posing as buyers/sellers/growers etc and prey on those that don't follow the 'staying anonymous with tor' instructions. stupid people will always find a way to get busted and keep the cops busy lol

edit: soz, lost the link to where i was reading about the field operations but there's a general brief on the tor project page. i suspect they would pick a tool based on the situation - i'm not sure what equipment is involved using the other communication networks but all you need for tor is a tiny usb stick

 

[sippinslurpies]

i think i need to learn more about this aero stuff - sounds like a fun science experiment how does it compare to hydro setups in terms of ability to go stealth?

Pretty much the same stealth wise... and not quite sure how it compares as far as product goes coz i've never done it before but I am doing now just to get some clones going for next round.

 

[stonerhermit]

Pretty much the same stealth wise... and not quite sure how it compares as far as product goes coz i've never done it before but I am doing now just to get some clones going for next round.

looking forward to hearing more on your progress - would love some pics too! although i don't grow atm, it definitely is a plan for the future so any and all education is good ...i'm going to need a new place though, want to be growing AKs so will need a lot of distance from people to contain that lovely stench

 

[JimmyRecard]

don't make me laugh jimmy - not in the mood - you decided to start posting?? was that before or after you've put in a lot of effort here to discourage other people from trying it out?? and you seem obsessed with desperation; that might be your motivator in life, no need to project it onto others. as i said, i mistakenly thought you would have been a good asset to the community so made the effort, got proven wrong.

and, y, i'm aware of the rules of this place (this bit isn't for you, its for RIU) and probably been reported already - there's a difference between a public forum and an exclusive private community so i have no intention of 'taking' RIU users, the sites serve different purposes - i'm sure RIU admins realize this considering i'm still here.

Not going to argue with you and you're acting a little immature here. Never tried to discourage others just said that it wasn't in my opinion any safer then using vpn's and proxies as it has been breached before...publicly.

 

[stonerhermit]

Not going to argue with you and you're acting a little immature here. Never tried to discourage others just said that it wasn't in my opinion any safer then using vpn's and proxies as it has been breached before...publicly.

dude, i said there was no more need to converse on the matter further but you keep including misinformation with every response, forcing me to reply back. if you left it at just insulting me, i would've ignored it - what does 'it has been breached before' mean? unqualified, that statement is like saying 'the internet has been breached'! if you are referring to some directories getting compromised a while back, that is true but tor itself was not compromised. i have mentioned many times that even if a tor service was captured (as in cops take away the computer for a full analysis), it wouldn't make much difference as the servers themselves don't know the IP numbers of computers connecting to its hidden services - so no useful information for LE. unlike tor, standard vpns and proxies DO log IP numbers so tracing someone is trivial if you have the right tools and can bully the owners (LE).

and this is what is pissing me off; i explain something to you, you say you understand it and then make public comments with the same damn thing again without any sign that you actually understood what was explained.... again, as i said before this is the same pattern you get if you try to have a logical discussion with a religious nut (very frustrating, i try not to do that any more). so, i try again to explain at your level... if you're finding it immature and annoying, i suggest you stop being that way.

 

[jzs147]

my opinon is fuck the police the end an no i dnt understand shit i break laws not make em.

on another note i cut a 2 holes in me grow room today for my inline an exhaust fans stoked

 

[Shannon Alexander]

Okay so My Swiss Cheese beauties are growing faster and more beautifully than everything else I've started so far (F1's I guess as I took the Nirvana Swiss Cheese and made some seeds from them, although I'm still not 100 on how to classify the seeds)
The Peyote Purps and the Sandstorm both from Cannabiogen are growing slower than everything else but a really rich dark green in comparison to the rest of the plants I have growing, 1 of the 3 Hashberry plants I have going in the last few days shot up about 3 inches of stem so I imagine it is time to repot it the rest of the plants are just doing their thing with nothing special to comment on...

except the quickest growing of the Sandstorms has fucked up leaves, I'm assuming it will sort itself out as it grows more sets, they're just growing in odd uneven shapes...

 

[stonerhermit]

ok, my head is about to explode; who's hogging all the AK out there?

 

[sippinslurpies]

ok, my head is about to explode; who's hogging all the AK out there?

Are you seriously having that much trouble getting some smoko? What part of Smelbourne are ya in?