Aussie Growers Thread

TheGreenPriest

TheGreenPriest

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If it is Neem that is the culprit with CHS, as evidence is starting to suggest, it's highly likely due to the 'active properties' of Neem and not any solvents, surfacants or preservatives.


Neem oil has widespread use in Indian subcontinent due to its many bioactive properties. Azadirachtin, an active ingredient, is implicated in causing the effects seen in neem oil poisoning. Neem oil poisoning is rare in adults. This report highlights the toxicity associated with neem oil poisoning in an elderly male. The patient presented with vomiting, seizures, metabolic acidosis, and toxic encephalopathy. The patient recovered completely with symptomatic treatment.
 
TheGreenPriest

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www.leafly.com

Is Neem Oil Causing Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome?

Is cannabis overuse—or pesticides—behind cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome? Leafly investigates the potential causes of this cyclical vomiting phenomenon.
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This theory gained prominence through CHS patients like Taeia Kaley-Dolan, who started doing her own research on the syndrome and noticed similarities between the symptoms of CHS and poisoning from azadirachtin, one of the chemicals in neem oil. Both CHS and azadirachtin poisoning can cause severe vomiting and nausea. However, azadirachtin poisonings are rare and symptoms also include not just vomiting, but seizures, acidic blood, and deadly nervous system swelling.
 
reza92

reza92

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Venus55 said:
Quote of the day.

“A foolish man thinks he knows everything. A wise man knows he doesn’t.”
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I know I don’t know everything and I’m More than willing to listen to people who have more information on a topic than me. I’ll also debate a topic with them if I feel they are wrong because that’s how you challenge ideas (It’s literally the basis of the scientific community. come up with an idea, publish it, have the community read and review your ideas and discuss what’s wrong/right about it) and create change.

so far the only information you’ve provided as evidence is some marketing material which can be easily manipulated.

What your failing to understand is that in neem products Azadirachtin is the active ingredient whether it’s been synthesised down to its base or in its natural oil state. Azamax just uses vegetable oil instead of the neem trees naturally produced oils.
 
Cicadiar Rhyhon

Cicadiar Rhyhon

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reza92 said:
I haven’t used it personally but from what I’ve read it’s just a b-12 and kelp supplement. It’s good gear but there’s plenty of other products that do the same thing for cheaper.
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Like my fully natural and homemade aloe Vera gel with coconut water? I have been getting good results with this using morning and night... had one more quick one for ya mate. When watering sometimes the water can expose the very shallow roots... i have been adding coco recovering them.when happens.. would they survive if I wasn't to do this?
 

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reza92

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Cicadiar Rhyhon said:
Like my fully natural and homemade aloe Vera gel with coconut water? I have been getting good results with this using morning and night... had one more quick one for ya mate. When watering sometimes the water can expose the very shallow roots... i have been adding coco recovering them.when happens.. would they survive if I wasn't to do this?
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they wouldn’t contain enough mass to effect the plant if the do die off. Bigger roots will make a skin that’ll protect them.
 
TheGreenPriest

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reza92 said:
if I’m not the only one that’s come up with that information there’s only really one conclusion that can be drawn. We’re all wrong and Venus is right.
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I'm sure she's simply ill informed and will now alter her conclusions as more and more evidence has been presented to her and will admit to her error.
Nothing wrong with being misinformed, only with willfully remaining so.
Then again we're all a bit stubborn fuckers here. ;)

I'd make a great politician.
Except for the whole crazy thing.
Oh and the many substances (ab)use thing.
And those charges from my youth.
And the many people who could reveal some super embarrassing shit about me.
And my PornTube history... oh man, I'd have to leave the country if that was revealed by Russian hackers.
 
reza92

reza92

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TheGreenPriest said:
I'm sure she's simply ill informed and will now alter her conclusions as more and more evidence has been presented to her and will admit to her error.
Nothing wrong with being misinformed, only with willfully remaining so.
Then again we're all a bit stubborn fuckers here. ;)

I'd make a great politician.
Except for the whole crazy thing.
Oh and the many substances (ab)use thing.
And those charges from my youth.
And the many people who could reveal some super embarrassing shit about me.
And my PornTube history... oh man, I'd have to leave the country if that was revealed by Russian hackers.
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Unfortunately we can’t rely on a company being trustworthy in their advertising anymore. We need to make sure we are doing the research and making sure what’s going in is what we actually want. I don’t use a product anymore without first reading the msds just to make sure there are no hidden surprises and even that rely’s upon the manufacturer’s be held to account by governments.

I believe there’s been a few companies busted in the past using ingredients in their products that where never listed on the msds.
 
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