Bagseed - Midgrade - 1st real attempt - March 22

bfq

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As to the security of posting pics..... Proxy servers!

I live on the road, so my IP is in a different state every week. At home its proxy servers.
yeah, i run proxy servers ;)

trust me i KNOW i am just being a pussy ;)

it is the idea, not the reality :mrgreen:
 

GrnMan

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I leach off my neighbors wireless, so I could care less. ;)

As for your question about germing the seeds, I like to do it that way, so that I can see which seeds seem to be more reliable for the grow. Also, like email said, I don't want to just stick them in my soil and wait weeks until I see something. Maybe it has something to do with my patience and curiosity, but either way it works for me. I've tried just planting a seed in the soil and that worked as well. So any way you go about it, you should have some results.

On to the seeds...

WOW, I took a peak today at around 1 pm and the two Shoreline seeds have already sprouted a decent tap root, not as big as I would like for them to be, but they should definitely be ready to go into their cups tomorrow. The Sour Diesel seed has a very small crack, you can sorta see the tap root ready to come out, but it will need another day or so until it can be planted.

The seeds I planted on my last grow, took days to even show a tap root. Several of the seeds took nearly 5 days if memory serves me right. They were all germed the same way. To me, this shows that these seeds may have better genetics and will be more likely to turn out into some nice ass bud. Anyone agree with me on this?

Here is a couple shots of the seeds that I got germinating. In the first pic, we have the one Sour Diesel seed. If you look closely, you can see the little crack. In the second pic, we have the two Shore Line seeds. I know this isn't really a big deal, but every aspect of growing marijuana I would like to have documented because I enjoy it.

The Sour Diesel




Shore Line





My temps have been staying at 77-79 degrees F. Paper towels are still moist and I've been keeping air in the bag. I will probably place my order for the Blue Buddha on Saturday with a pre-paid debit card, so that way they should arrive sooner.

bongsmilie
 

bfq

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personally, i would pop those Shoreline's into the grow medium at this point.... i figure if the root is showing it is time to drop em in and i have forgotten some in germ before (fucking stoner) and they got real long.... the success rate was DRASTICALLY reduced on that batch cause i couldnt get the plugs to seal around them....

school me on your thoughts, please :)
 

GrnMan

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No, I agree with you there buddy. But I don't have the soil that I want to use on them - funds are low. I'm going to have to use some Scott's potting soil for the first 3 weeks or so. I really wanted to use some FF's Light Warrior, I might break down and pick that up tomorrow at lunch. By then, they should be ready to go into the cups.

bongsmilie
 

ceestyle

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i start with such small pots that i put them in soil straight away, and then just pull the pots that don't sprout. Either that or I put them in rockwool in my cloning chamber and transplant as they sprout. I don't like handling them either. I like to see them pop out all green and eager.
 

BigBudBalls

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*Only* playing devil's advocate.....

Putting into soil at first isn't such an ordeal. They don't need light until they pop. Can even plant into an ice cube tray for sprouting.

Anywho....

There is that thread about if the tap root curls vs is straight can predict male vs female. On that concept I'm all for germing seeds. Wonder how that will turn out. (but I'm on the mother/clone cycle)
 

ceestyle

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*Only* playing devil's advocate.....

Putting into soil at first isn't such an ordeal. They don't need light until they pop. Can even plant into an ice cube tray for sprouting.

Anywho....

There is that thread about if the tap root curls vs is straight can predict male vs female. On that concept I'm all for germing seeds. Wonder how that will turn out. (but I'm on the mother/clone cycle)
So what's the verdict on that? Sounds like urban legend to me.
 

bfq

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*Only* playing devil's advocate.....

Putting into soil at first isn't such an ordeal. They don't need light until they pop. Can even plant into an ice cube tray for sprouting.

Anywho....

There is that thread about if the tap root curls vs is straight can predict male vs female. On that concept I'm all for germing seeds. Wonder how that will turn out. (but I'm on the mother/clone cycle)

i am testing that myself... unfortunately, those were the sprouts i forgot about and only one of them survived, so i wont have any real data this time... but it is something i am trying. if it is right, the one i did get to grow (and grow nicely it is) should be female.

to me, having done it both ways (and originally totally agreeing with you that it was an unneeded step) i now believe firmly that for me anything but germing seeds is a waste of time.

try it out yourself and see what makes you happiest.

oh, and not that i have any real data yet, i am pretty sure it is a lot faster to germ before planting.
 

bfq

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It only popped up here a few weeks ago. too early to tell. Sounds interesting though, huh? And easy enough to try out.
no doubt! far easier to test than to argue about it, eh

(for the record, i think it is horse hockey... but shit if it works....)
 

BigBudBalls

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no doubt! far easier to test than to argue about it, eh

(for the record, i think it is horse hockey... but shit if it works....)
Well, if sex its strictly genetics, and environment has nothing to do with sex, then I think it can hold water. But if environment can help determin sex, well then horse hockey (or even cow curling, pig ping pong, bat bowling, or dog dodgeball)

Hermies excluded.
 

BigBudBalls

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sex is genetics.

hermie is either genetics or environment.

no if's about it ;)
I'm on the genetics side 90%. But still have doubts. Would love to get some fem seeds and do ALL the wrong things and see if I can force them male. Just one hella waste of good seeds! Only thing I heard that made some sense is that sex can be changed early on like first few weeks.
 

bfq

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actually, that doesnt have to be tested... it is standard genetics with all bisexual critters... you cant turn a female embryo male. it is all in the DNA before the first cellular splits happen.
 

GrnMan

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thought ya might like this grn
LMFAO, nice!

Sorry for the late update guys, been busy as hell moving and getting my new place setup. The seeds have all sprouted already and are looking good. They just shot out their first set of tiny leaves. I ordered my Blue Buddha seeds and they should be here in a few weeks or so - I hope! I decided not to use my CFL's for the seedling stage. I want to give the MH a whirl and see what happens.

I will continue to update on this journal I suppose until my new seeds arrive. I'll go ahead and add these 3 plants I have going now to the new journal as well.

bongsmilie
 
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