Balls to the Wall grow, Riddleme Gets Serious

i would say yes but i dint srtart to drown mine until it was ready for harvest...and im hangin and jar curing...i will come backi with the smoke report wen its dry to compare but yea i cant wait i think i might get an oz off this plant idk yet...we already tried 3.5 grams within the pst few weeks from a branch i pulled off to try but yea i cant wait! the smell is crazy it more of a potent weed smell than the drying not so pleasant chloraphyll smell cant wait to taste it!

do the trichomes continue to turn amber after the drowning begins?

yes they did for me

rastadred22 said:

yes they did for me

Click to expand...

thanks, any idea how much they chamged? juat a rough guess? like from 30% to 40% or? you did 2 days dark period when you started drowning?

no 12 hours under light and then 3days

for sure riddle! i have to get my workshop set up before the snow hits, then run electricity to it, so i can start growing. once i get every thing put up and get some strains going. itd be awesome to get a true expert and a pro to come look at my garden.

and the chamber you built is amazing. i cant believe you have invented a chamber to dry and cure bud in less than a week. i think i need to build one haha. oh the stuff i am wanting to build hmmm.

EP

RiddleMe, I started a Grow Journal you inspired. Check it out when you can.
FrigiDare 2 Indica's Infrared Spectrum Trial

Danielsgb said:

RiddleMe, I started a Grow Journal you inspired. Check it out when you can.
FrigiDare 2 Indica's Infrared Spectrum Trial

Click to expand...

Link is giving a 404 error

ElectricPineapple said:

for sure riddle! i have to get my workshop set up before the snow hits, then run electricity to it, so i can start growing. once i get every thing put up and get some strains going. itd be awesome to get a true expert and a pro to come look at my garden.

and the chamber you built is amazing. i cant believe you have invented a chamber to dry and cure bud in less than a week. i think i need to build one haha. oh the stuff i am wanting to build hmmm.

EP

Click to expand...

Always happy to visit a garden

riddleme said:

Link is giving a 404 error

Click to expand...

I have it on my sig link now so that should work.

I had some serious doubts about this 'magical chamber' that RM3 was building. I figured, especially with the big buds from the outdoor, this thing is gonna mold, especially leaving the leaves on. I figured this would be the first big FAIL of the riddleme madman's theories.

I was sorely, and happily mistaken.

He took some branches on Monday night. The were from the back of the plant and lower, but still good sized and dense. I watched the updates and then got the message I needed to come and confirm the initial results.

I figured it would be like, fresh dried buds, taste green and burn shitty. But it was quite the opposite.

I had been telling RM3 that I used to dry my plants out before harvest so they dry faster and the patients get them faster, I was always behind playing catch. I noticed I could never get a cure outta them, too damn dry.

Now that I have caught up and don't have to rush, I've been keeping them wet, not drowing (yet), but wet. And the cure is so much better. The buds have that nice 'spongy' texture and when you put them in a space case it makes these nice little squares, kinda like tobacco. It's perfect.

Well I expected, in less than 3 days time, for it to be like the dried out plants. Hard brittle, and probably still wet in the middle.

No way, it was nice and spongy, just like I love it. It wasn't harsh, but instead very smooth. It had a nice degree of curing, in 3 days, with no drying. I was really pretty amazed. Also, they were about 10% amber trichomes when he took them and under my scope they had 'ripened' up to close to 50%.

Now on the plants I have been chopping, I truly expect they will hang for over a week to get the moisture out of some of the buds and then they will probably have to burped or left open for a good amount of time.

I honestly can't wait to see how these buds that RM3 has will be like in say 10 days.

Cutting that dry time and simultaneously getting the cure is invaluable to me. With all the tight restrictions in Colorado's medical laws, you simply can't afford to sit on it. This magical cabinet will allow you to not only cut the time but more importantly provide your patients with a much, much better product, which is what it's really all about.

RM3 continues his trek to the perfect smoke and this piece is another important part to the puzzle he is quickly putting together.

Ok I know I have neglected regular garden updates and I will work on getting one together once this final test is finished, I have to devote time to the chamber but am not neglecting my garden, made it rain yesterday and watered the veg room this morning, garden is doing nicely will get pics at end of week 4 flowering which will be tuesday

Back to the chamber,,,,,The single bud that was put in thursday is done and in a jar, it finished in just 2 days and required a different set of tweaks. it has the same look and feel as the first set of buds, I have not tasted it yet

Yesterday I went over to RMH's and trimmed a few buds as he has started his outdoor harvest. I grabbed a whole bunch of lower popcorn budded branches off the plants he had cut so I could do a test run in the chamber with lots of green you will see that on 3 of the shelfs and mixed in with it are 2 agent orange buds that we cut 3 weeks early just to see what happens On the top shelf is my patients plant which is a GDP (very nice purples) So far the tweaks and adjustments have been way different but I have been able to dial into the sweet spot. we will see what happens?

The trek to that perfect smoke that RMH mentioned has been a mission for me, I know it is possible because I used to buy these buds (years ago) that were the best smoke I ever had, it went for $100 a gram and no one complained, I have posted here about it before. That guy would not share his secrets so I have been on a mission to figure it out and I am damn close. The one thing that his bud did was stay sticky, it never dried out and the buds from the first goddess run are now there, I left them set out for 3 hours yesterday and they did not get dry or crispy, they just stayed spongy and sticky and the high, oh my god, this shit is good, my 4th hit last night actually buckled my knees and I went to bed, it put me down GOOD just one or 2 hits is a very good stone. I gave an oz back to RMH yesterday so we'll see what his opinion is here soon?

There is no doubt in my mind that I have figured out the old growers secret way of curing and there is no doubt that this process makes the smoke better, I will keep on tweaking till I get the process perfected

here are the pics

riddleme said:

Ok I know I have neglected regular garden updates and I will work on getting one together once this final test is finished, I have to devote time to the chamber but am not neglecting my garden, made it rain yesterday and watered the veg room this morning, garden is doing nicely will get pics at end of week 4 flowering which will be tuesday

Back to the chamber,,,,,The single bud that was put in thursday is done and in a jar, it finished in just 2 days and required a different set of tweaks. it has the same look and feel as the first set of buds, I have not tasted it yet

Yesterday I went over to RMH's and trimmed a few buds as he has started his outdoor harvest. I grabbed a whole bunch of lower popcorn budded branches off the plants he had cut so I could do a test run in the chamber with lots of green you will see that on 3 of the shelfs and mixed in with it are 2 agent orange buds that we cut 3 weeks early just to see what happens On the top shelf is my patients plant which is a GDP (very nice purples) So far the tweaks and adjustments have been way different but I have been able to dial into the sweet spot. we will see what happens?

The trek to that perfect smoke that RMH mentioned has been a mission for me, I know it is possible because I used to buy these buds (years ago) that were the best smoke I ever had, it went for $100 a gram and no one complained, I have posted here about it before. That guy would not share his secrets so I have been on a mission to figure it out and I am damn close. The one thing that his bud did was stay sticky, it never dried out and the buds from the first goddess run are now there, I left them set out for 3 hours yesterday and they did not get dry or crispy, they just stayed spongy and sticky and the high, oh my god, this shit is good, my 4th hit last night actually buckled my knees and I went to bed, it put me down GOOD just one or 2 hits is a very good stone. I gave an oz back to RMH yesterday so we'll see what his opinion is here soon?

There is no doubt in my mind that I have figured out the old growers secret way of curing and there is no doubt that this process makes the smoke better, I will keep on tweaking till I get the process perfected

here are the pics

Click to expand...

This last few months for me knowing you riddle has been like cannabis university. i spent a few years learning online and reading and watching video's. but iv gotta say from making it rain to harvesting and curing i have to agree. i think you've cracked it and iv been sitting here with my notepad jotting it all down for the day i do my "balls to the wall" grow. u should defo write a book as i dont think all the other "how to" books out there offer what you can to the growing community i really cant wait to see the results of ur grow, its a real pity i wont be able to sample the finished product because i think its going to be one of a kind. thanks for sharing your information on producing the worlds best pot

SensiStan said:

This last few months for me knowing you riddle has been like cannabis university. i spent a few years learning online and reading and watching video's. but iv gotta say from making it rain to harvesting and curing i have to agree. i think you've cracked it and iv been sitting here with my notepad jotting it all down for the day i do my "balls to the wall" grow. u should defo write a book as i dont think all the other "how to" books out there offer what you can to the growing community i really cant wait to see the results of ur grow, its a real pity i wont be able to sample the finished product because i think its going to be one of a kind. thanks for sharing your information on producing the worlds best pot

Click to expand...

Thank you my friend, I would love to have everyone here taste my buds but alas that is not possible. I understand black market/commercial growers hoarding their secrets but when it comes to medical I believe the info should be shared, the patients that need the medicine deserve the very best and seeing the crap that the dispensaries have been hocking sickens me, so I have shared my research and test experiments to help other patients get the very best in the end that is what should be important

It'll be interesting to see how long it takes to cure bud that was started fermenting prior to harvest.
Props Riddle

WWShadow said:

It'll be interesting to see how long it takes to cure bud that was started fermenting prior to harvest.
Props Riddle

Click to expand...

we'll know in about 5 weeks once my current grow is done

i wont be able to taste your buds, but i will be able to replicate them . and id rather be able to replicate them on a large scale instead of just being able to try them, so i suppose i still win .

and medicinal or not, every grower should aspire for perfection. i think the problem with your dispensaries is the fact that everybody thinks what theyre growing is the best, and a lot of people think theyre getting "high grade" when really we would call it crap. thats why i love people like you who educate

dont suppose you were at Grow 2010???? I Made sure to stop by Dynagro...They are a Very cool company and eager to share their info with you. Copped me some Protekt, Grow, and Bloom...gonna run it against the high end NUTRI+(plus) they compare them selves to AN. And I feel that Dyna and Jacks are among the same class of nutes. o yea by the way.>>>UPDATE....I keep hoping to see some Stick drippy nuggets whenever I log on....Whats a player gota do???? LOL...but no for real........

Comando said:

dont suppose you were at Grow 2010???? I Made sure to stop by Dynagro...They are a Very cool company and eager to share their info with you. Copped me some Protekt, Grow, and Bloom...gonna run it against the high end NUTRI+(plus) they compare them selves to AN. And I feel that Dyna and Jacks are among the same class of nutes. o yea by the way.>>>UPDATE....I keep hoping to see some Stick drippy nuggets whenever I log on....Whats a player gota do???? LOL...but no for real........

Click to expand...

yes my girls are drippin, yes they are twice as big as the last set of pics but you have to wait to see them, they are being shy tonight

Comando said:

dont suppose you were at Grow 2010???? I Made sure to stop by Dynagro...They are a Very cool company and eager to share their info with you. Copped me some Protekt, Grow, and Bloom...gonna run it against the high end NUTRI+(plus) they compare them selves to AN. And I feel that Dyna and Jacks are among the same class of nutes. o yea by the way.>>>UPDATE....I keep hoping to see some Stick drippy nuggets whenever I log on....Whats a player gota do???? LOL...but no for real........

Click to expand...

You must learn patience as I have been tought by the master. lol I am sure it will be worth the wait.