SmeLLyTreeZ
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Thats a great looking screen! Can't wait to see her fill it 
Barney's F - Vanilla Kush / TGA Subcool - Ace of Spades = Waterfarm - 600w
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snap1234
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Hi Dayzt, been following your grows for a while and def. a big fan. I had one question though, do you un-tie the LST that you preformed on the VK before putting it under the screen, or do the ties for the LST stay on during the whole grow. I figured you would take them off and then spread the branches under the screen for the scrog. just want to make sure. Awesome grow so far, love your journals and all the info i've been able to learn from them.
Dayzt
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Yep, the screen works great - not sure I'll be making another one for the AoS, but lately she's been starting to spread out more, so...
I've got both at ~500 ppms right now. The AoS is LOVING it, so that's a good sign - I'm so glad I didn't give up on her earlier on there... The VK is drinking about a gallon a day already... I can see it will be a constant job keeping her happy - hope I'm up to the task!
Thanks man - great to see you've got a waterfarm grow under your belt, now you can turn it up a notch next round with all the experience in hand! I think you'll find that the 'seasoned' hydroton from your waterfarm having went through a full grow already, will be a much better starter and consistent grow compared to the first run.
Me too! She's still quite flexible, so it shouldn't be too difficult to fill up this screen - hopefully there's lots of new tops coming in from these branches - my last round of VK had awesome branching, and I let them go mostly Christmas tree style...Thats a great looking screen! Can't wait to see her fill it
Hey there snap - I'm flattered! Thanks for your kind words! This is only the second 'scrog' i've done, but I've indeed removed the ties straight after the screen went in. I suppose they could be left as well, but really they've done thier job at that point and the screen kinda 'takes over' from there... When LST'ing before using the screen, I'd normally tie the main stem down just once and remove the tie shortly before going 12/12. This would encourage a nice 3-5 big main tops averaging anywhere from 1-3 ounces per plant.
Bluezdude
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Great frame mate! And I can say that you got me so inspired that after my first grow I'm going to give it a go with a makeshift waterfarm-like system
About the frame, are the pipes screwed together, glued or just put in place? How long did it take you to drill the holes and pass the chord? Comparing to the previous frame on the other grow, do you thing that this is going to be better or are you just trying something new and see what comes?
About the frame, are the pipes screwed together, glued or just put in place? How long did it take you to drill the holes and pass the chord? Comparing to the previous frame on the other grow, do you thing that this is going to be better or are you just trying something new and see what comes?
nattybongo
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Great news mate!! Glad to hear that your AOS turned out female. Time to whip that b!tch.
tony1960
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Here I am again posting thanks to Dayzt's positive commentary. I just have to say that VK is jumping for me. So much better than my last try with "another" Kush. Last one took forever to get through stretch and start shooting hairs... VK on the other hand shoots through that phase under exact same conditions and gets right to work. I am very height limited too so VK is just fitting right in perfectly. I topped these as I stated before but now I think the benefit of that is evident.
Peace Out!! Tony
Peace Out!! Tony
runpinto
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Here's another update on myself, the two are growing beautifully. I ran out of room with my CFL lamps so I decided to finally turn on my 400W MH. As you can see my Royal Queen Ice is already about 6" taller than my Vanilla Kush. I'm guessing a pruning is in order for the Ice, but I don't really know 'how' to do it correctly... since these are my first 2 grows...
SmeLLyTreeZ
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Good news, I'm working on my second scrog aswell and my vK are just entering the veg stage! Can't wait to see how they turn out
I'm hoping for crazy branching aswell!!
Dayzt
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Hey Bluez - the pvc pipes in this frame fit nice a snug with the plastic elbow pieces - didn't need to glue anything at all, just pieced it together and stood it on it's side and pounded each corner down so it was tight. It took my probably 2+ hours to get everything put together and strung, plus I had to take it apart once it was all done and make the side lengths about 3-4 inches shorter so it would fit in the tent properly..lol. Well worth the work though - this screen is WAY sturdier than my first attempt, and the string works awesome as opposed to the plastic fencing - no regrets!Great frame mate! And I can say that you got me so inspired that after my first grow I'm going to give it a go with a makeshift waterfarm-like system
About the frame, are the pipes screwed together, glued or just put in place? How long did it take you to drill the holes and pass the chord? Comparing to the previous frame on the other grow, do you thing that this is going to be better or are you just trying something new and see what comes?
Let the S&M commence!! This AoS plant is starting to show her stuff - literally! More hairs coming in now - the chances of a hermie are getting slimmer! The foliage on this plant smells unique - she's going to be something special for sure...
Hey Tony - your gals are looking fan-fucking-tastic! Yep, the VK is a very 'vigorous' plant - quick out of the starting gates for me... many, many tops forming from the many branches on her, and I'm still about a week at least away from 12/12! Great topping job on your ladies btw... looks perfecto!
Nice - well not knowing where to start pruning is never a bad thing!! I've found that with a screen in place, it's much easier to deduct which leaves can come off and at what point in the grow they can go... keep in mind that you want to trim leaves that are low and undeveloped with the interest in keeping good 'top-to-bottom' air-flow. Distinguish your tops by clearing out anything that blocks the light from the lower developing canopy. Again, that's why using a screen makes trimming a bit easier!
Great - can't wait to see how yours take off too! I love this plant - once again I'm tempted to take multiple cuttings from her soon before going 12/12, but I'm not sure If I want the extra work of 3-4 more plants...lol..how lazy is that!Good news, I'm working on my second scrog aswell and my vK are just entering the veg stage! Can't wait to see how they turn out
Dayzt
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Yay! Here's my latest pic update! The VK has filled about a 1/3 of the screen now and is still growing around an inch per day (give or take). The topping of the main stem has really turned out to be a blessing in disguise, and it's made for a more even canopy overall and will therefor benefit the whole plant in the end much more than if it still had it's dominant top... my TD had that issue and the biggest top (the main one) far out-grew most of the others making it difficult to keep my light as low as i'd of liked...
Ah well, enough babbling... on with the pics! Enjoy!
VK
AoS
AoS - Yay for boobies!!
Ah well, enough babbling... on with the pics! Enjoy!
VK
AoS
AoS - Yay for boobies!!
mr2shim
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ooo they both are so nice Dayzt! Yea, I've been thinking about topping all future plants because it does seem to make it easier to keep the canopy even. I'll be getting a journal going here in the next few days with the Ice. Looking good as always broski. How far is that screen from the bucket on the VK?
SmeLLyTreeZ
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Love the pvc screens! I'm building mine soon, looking sick!!
Dr.Amber Trichome
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WOW DAYZT..what a killer job.. Your set up is soo super clean and professional looking. I just started building my frame otta wood.. its a bit comical to say the least...lol..
back to the hardwared store now..hahha..
I was wondering on the clamps.. how do you get them not to slide down the tent pole?
OUTSTANDING documentation photography once again..! your easy to admire.
Happy Halloween!
Amber
EDIT...... later after Hardware store visit.....
yeah so i found the correct clamps..duh... they fit nice and snug.. and guess what.... i made my frame!!!! it was difficult for me. but i did it!
peace bro..
back to the hardwared store now..hahha..
I was wondering on the clamps.. how do you get them not to slide down the tent pole?
OUTSTANDING documentation photography once again..! your easy to admire.
Happy Halloween!
Amber
EDIT...... later after Hardware store visit.....
yeah so i found the correct clamps..duh... they fit nice and snug.. and guess what.... i made my frame!!!! it was difficult for me. but i did it!
peace bro..
nattybongo
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Happy halloween!!
Dayzt
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Thanks bro - the 'natural' topping is starting to look like a bit of a waterfarm 'trend' dare I say... as my training early on has now done the same thing twice - although on the TD it didn't break off completely so the main top ended up shooting up above all the rest...
The screen is about a foot or a little more above the top of the waterfarm grow chamber. I've started to trim about 2 handfuls of bottom leaves from under there each day now. Once 12/12 hits, I'll trim the rest out and try to a better job at that this round - I should have trimmed much more from the TD but didn't want to slow anything down up top...but I'm not going to worry about that this time. My veg time will be 2-3 weeks shorter for these plants, so I'm expecting that to effect my yield, but I'm trying to concentrate on not over-nuting the rez on these this time so I can avoid any root-rot.
Your screen looks great man - those girls are really spreading out! What day of veg/flower are that at in these pics?View attachment 1860951View attachment 1860950View attachment 1860953excellent job dayzt!
heres my shot at scrog pineapple express vs ak48, ak48 is woppin PEs ass so far..., similar to ur VK spankin AOS lol
(i topped early, after 4th node) (PE is 7days younger)
love ur detail dude
Yeah I was wondering if all the extra work would pay off, and it really did. It wasn't too hard to do, just took some time to get all the drilling done and hand-screwing those eyelets into the plastic took time and was a bit hard on the hands after awhile... a bit of a tip for you - the eyelets aren't 'complete', as in you can fit the string around the metal look instead of threading it through the hole - that makes things much faster when stringing up the screen!
Test, test and test again - you need to stay on top of the ppms by testing the water every day. I have a small cup that I drain a sample into using the drain-tube. I try to schedule a complete rez flush every 2 weeks to a week and a half at which time I completely drain the water out and then add back a fresh rez full of nuted water again. Between rez flushes, I just keep testing and adjusting the ppms of the add-back water. With 2 of them going at once, I'll prep a full bucket of add-back water and nute it up to the lowest ppm between the two and re-fill that lower one first - then up the nutes to the other one's ppm level and add the rest to that other one...
Yep - you got the EXACT clamps I did - got'em at Lowes. The spring on them is super-tight, so no worries about them moving. One tip for your wooden frame - you don't really need to use eyelets (or drill holes) for the string - rather, you could just cut small grooves along the outside edge of the frame so the string can just wrap around the outside and slip into each groove that way... just a thought. I think your first shot at building a screen worked out very well. Did you see the screen i'd made for my TD plant...? lol..
...I see you finally put a self-photo up as your avatar...nice! =)
Thanks - things are looking nice and green. Almost time to flip the lights - probably 2 more weeks I'm guessing.Man Those Girls Are Freakin Beautiful.The Dawg
You too - don't get into any London riots! lol..