Bee THC!!! Nowhere else to Place thread!!!??!!

[longlivemtb]

Yeah, so it's technically not vomit. However honey is basically plant nectar that has been re-worked in this "crop" and secreted out later as honey, so it is very much like vomit, lol.

Also, this guy is correct, Marijuana is a plant that relies on males & females growing close enough that the wind will carry the pollen from male sacks onto the female buds. They do not rely on insects for pollination, as a matter of fact, many insects get stuck on the resin glands of adult females. Part of the reason marijuana even has THC may be to help protect the seeds from insects. There is much speculation that it may ALSO act as a form of light amplification, or even UVB protection.

I was reading in the most recent issue of cannabis culture and they had a whole diagram on how a plant produces THC. The trichome heads are sticky to protect from bugs since they would get stuck to them. and as uvb light hits the MAT positive and negative ions attract and turn into THC. Kinda cool, at least i think it is.

 

[panhead]

Awesome info on bee's,feels like im watching publiuc tv

Im smarter after this thread thats for sure.

 

[specialkayme]

Yeah, so it's technically not vomit. However honey is basically plant nectar that has been re-worked in this "crop" and secreted out later as honey, so it is very much like vomit, lol.

It isn't worked, re-worked, digested, or anything like that. The crop is just like an internal pocket. Vomit is digestive matter that is regurgitated. Honey is just nectar. The crop is a different part of the body and not part of the digestive system. It not only isn't vomit, it's also not like vomit. Just because it comes out of the same hole doesn't make them anything alike. Calling honey 'bee vomit' could be paralelled to calling milk 'cow urine'. I know I'm driving hard at a point, and I'm sorry, it's just a personal pet pieve of mine.

And just so you know, the bee regurgitates nectar, not honey. It becomes honey later on, in the cells of the hive.

 

[herbologist]

We believe the honey to be THC active when completed.We will post this one again when we have completed this project.

 

[bicycle racer]

we will see im skeptical

 

[Ravioli]

If so, this would be the shizznit for breakfast

Let sleeping dogs lie, I know, but Jesus Christ this sentence was funny!

 

[herbologist]

We will be running this experiment next spring along side of green houses.
I'll have to make sure my help is heavy in SMOKE.

 

[lollollol]

This little dude have been trusting his pelvis against that plant for 6 hours now I dunno wtf is going on.
Is he/she stoned???

 

[specialkayme]

This little dude have been trusting his pelvis against that plant for 6 hours now I dunno wtf is going on.
Is he/she stoned???

Haha, probably not. My experience is with honey bees, and that looks more like a carpenter bee, or a bumble bee of some type. But I know that honey bees will stop and 'rest' for several hours a day. They are much more likely to do it inside their hive, but have been known to do it other places. Bees don't sleep, but they do get tired, and they spend about 12 hours a day resting (which blows a hole in the old saying 'busy as a bee'). When they stop and rest, their abdomen 'pulsates' if you will. It looks kinda like they are humping the air or the ground, or something else, but it's just their body shaking. They do this for a bunch of different reasons, when they release pheromones, or if they are eating something, or sometimes when the breath or are cleaning something.

It's possible that the little guy is stoned, but he's probably just relaxing a bit. Why he chose one of your ladies is beyond me, but like I said my experience is with honey bees. Other forms of bees act slightly differently, depending on their degree of sociality. Hope that helps.

 

[lollollol]

Well, it certainly is fascinating. =)
Thanks for the info!
Cheers.

 

[mrbluntbuddy420]

Well i like to tell you all that I have heard of this. Ive read of people achieving up to 10 percent thc in honey from honey bees. They are attracted to marijuana plants and will make thc honey. all u need to be able to do is make sure they only going to your marijuana plants. If theres better plants around for them to get nectar from theyll go to those

 

[specialkayme]

I'm sorry mrbluntbuddy420, but have you read any of the rest of the thread?

 

[madcow]

Well i like to tell you all that I have heard of this. Ive read of people achieving up to 10 percent thc in honey from honey bees. They are attracted to marijuana plants and will make thc honey. all u need to be able to do is make sure they only going to your marijuana plants. If theres better plants around for them to get nectar from theyll go to those

i think he means in a controlled environment, where theres nothing but pot plants for them to forage from.i think?

 

[specialkayme]

i think he means in a controlled environment, where theres nothing but pot plants for them to forage from.i think?

Has anyone actually worked with honey bees before other than me? I don't want to sound rude, I'm just wondering.

For those that arn't familiar with them, controlling where a honey bee forages from is not an easy task. They have been known to fly over two miles away to forage from a plant. And all plants count, so even clovers or dandylions, or simple weeds that are around will attract a honey bee to forage from. The only way that I can think of restricting a bee to forage from ONLY a mj plant is to put it in a greenhouse or inside of a building. Bees forage and navigate according to sunlight, so this would screw up their foraging, and you need to make sure temperatures, climate, and food supply are ample or they will die, or get a disease. Controling where a bee forages from is certainly NOT an easy task, and I have never read about anyone doing it.

From all the evidence I have seen first hand, and read about, honey bees are not interested in mj plants ... at all. Their nectar is not similar to the type that a honey bee can make honey from anyway. The process of making honey is converting sucrose into fructose and glucose. So in order for a bee to collect the nectar from a plant and use it to make honey it would need to produce sucrose. Last time I checked mj nectar doesn't contain sucrose. So theoretically even, it isn't possible.

In the end, I call bullshit. Show me a study, or a website, or an article, or even a mention of this happening anywhere and I'll rethink. Untill then, my statement of bullshit has been made.

 

[specialkayme]

Secondly, my chemistry of THC is slightly vague, but doesn't the psychoactive controls found in THC need to be heated in order to be acheived? If so, then you wouldn't get anything out of THC honey anyway, unless you heated it up. Most people don't eat hot honey.

The only way I see this being able to work is if you heated up some honey, put some bud in it, stirred it around, and then removed the bud, hoping the resin was transplanted into the honey. Even then, it seems like too much work.

 

[flow]

Ok, so bees dont collect THC, but I swear Ive read about bees producing honey with active chemicals in them. Something like if you surround a hive with the right plants (active ones that the bees are attracted to nightshades and lotuses and such) The bees will produce a honey that makes you trip.

I cant remember where I read that, (and it could just be total BS), but if I do Ill look it up and let you know. I think it was some sort of European beekeeper shamanism?

You ever heard of anything like that?

 

[flow]

This is on the subject:

Lycaeum > Leda > The Delphic Bee: Bees and toxic honeys as pointers to psychoactive and other medicinal plants. by Jonathon Ott

 

[specialkayme]

Yeah flow, I have heard of that before. But typically the concentration needs to be very high and isn't acheived in nature. Possible though. The only problem is that it's like drinking dranno to see some funky colors. Not really advised.

 

[flow]

Umm im not saying your wrong but that link I posted has several examples of it occuring naturally.

 

[specialkayme]

Perhaps my sentence was illworded. I appologize. In stead of saying 'typically the concentration needs to be very high and isn't acheived in nature' I guess I really should have said 'typically the concentration needs to be very high and is't OFTEN acheived in nature'. Thank you for forcing me to be so specific flow.

In response to the article, I'll quote myself again: The only problem is that it's like drinking dranno to see some funky colors. Not really advised.

Our concern here is making honey with THC specifically, not just a psychoactive honey. I have no doubt in my mind that you can create a psychoactive honey, but it will eventually kill you. You can make poison honey as well, from certain types of nightshade. Oddly enough it's only poison to humans. Odd huh. But in order to do this, something like more than 30% of the nectar needs to come from that plant. Not something that is OFTEN acheived in nature. But even if it were to happen, naturally or through human influence, nearly every type of psychoactive agents that are introduced into honey are harmful to humans, and those are the 'psychoactive agents' that you are concerned with.

Bottom line, bees will not forage from a cannabis plant. Sorry. It just won't happen.