Disappointment with Sanders and the outcome of the effort, I can understand. Don’t understand the venom.
It's been the far left that has been causing the damage. The vandalism, looting, etc... has all occurred during protests and marches where members of the extreme left decided to run amok. I'm not defending the far right but they didn't cause all the boarded up windows, looted businesses, vandalism, fire's, etc...
Without wanting to cause rancor but in the interest of debating an important subject, I'll tell you why Bernie can accurately be said to be a very divisive leader.
You sound more depressed than usual
. Is it partly due to the 50% off for seniors sale? Don’t let that get you down ... growing old is fun ....... ummm ya nope lol.
Antifa are young white people who don't know how to civilly conduct civil disobedience. That said, Portland does have a problem with fascists who occupy positions of leadership in government and on the police force. I don't know what you expect when we see them dressed in armor and gassing people who stood against Trump's fascist goons but I saw a very scary vision of a future that makes a broken window seem mighty tame. Portland's police carried out more than 2,000 acts of violence* last summer. The answer is to re-scope the role of police in Portland. The police and their union are fighting against that with their clubs.
Antifa are not even progressives. It's hard to understand what they even stand for other than chaos. They attack the police and they attack one of the most liberal mayors in America. They hijacked the BLM movement and then went on a months long campaign of vandalism and chaos. This happened 20 blocks from my house. Had I known this was going on I would have raced down there and came to the aid of this elderly woman being accosted by this antifa thug. She had come out of her residence with a fire extinguisher to put out a fire antifa had started. I'll never support a group that behaves in this manner. It's disgusting and hard to even look at these photos. They fill me with rage. One lady is even holding a BLM sign. It makes me sick.
Just saying that there is a problem with fascists on the Portland police force that Antifa is opposing. How about if we focus on stopping the Portland police from beating and killing people for no good reason?Antifa are not even progressives. It's hard to understand what they even stand for other than chaos. They attack the police and they attack one of the most liberal mayors in America. They hijacked the BLM movement and then went on a months long campaign of vandalism and chaos. This happened 20 blocks from my house. Had I known this was going on I would have raced down there and came to the aid of this elderly woman being accosted by this antifa thug. She had come out of her residence with a fire extinguisher to put out a fire antifa had started. I'll never support a group that behaves in this manner. It's disgusting and hard to even look at these photos. They fill me with rage. One lady is even holding a BLM sign. It makes me sick.
I noticed after all the jewelry stores were looted the antifa people all had brand new helmets and other gear. Half the stores that have been looted by them are owned by minorities and recent immigrants.
Why don't you post a link to the source?Antifa are not even progressives. It's hard to understand what they even stand for other than chaos. They attack the police and they attack one of the most liberal mayors in America. They hijacked the BLM movement and then went on a months long campaign of vandalism and chaos. This happened 20 blocks from my house. Had I known this was going on I would have raced down there and came to the aid of this elderly woman being accosted by this antifa thug. She had come out of her residence with a fire extinguisher to put out a fire antifa had started. I'll never support a group that behaves in this manner. It's disgusting and hard to even look at these photos. They fill me with rage. One lady is even holding a BLM sign. It makes me sick.
I noticed after all the jewelry stores were looted the antifa people all had brand new helmets and other gear. Half the stores that have been looted by them are owned by minorities and recent immigrants.
Thank you for the links - I’m already chasing them down! Funny thing, though...after three of them, it seems to me that the articles don’t support what *you* have to say about them, or to support in their context the expressions you make about them in the posting context. I’ve not read them carefully yet, but I will...have you? Read them carefully?
I'm well aware that the Portland Police have racists as do police departments all across America. But Portland has a history of hiring Black Police Chiefs that goes back decades with Charles Moose. In fact the President of the Portland Police Union is black. I also remember Mark Kruger when as a Captain on the force made a shrine to adolf hitler.
The extremists are the base of the party, anybody can be primaried by tweet, the party has been poisoned by hate and those people are not gonna go away anytime soon, they took over. Nobody rides the wild elephant until Donald is gone and who ever does will promise the base a pardon and a VP running mate job for Donald to secure the nomination, even if he is doing time in s supermax.
Always puzzling that my friends in Portland are insistent that all the “Portland in flames” reporting is simply not true. They send hordes of photos that seem to support their position. I DO know that a high incidence of images of fire, bleeding and property damage presented in the ‘fuck the media’ media have been “imported” from conflicts in other years, in other countries.
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Maybe not 'all', but I would argue that there is a lot of evidence that the racist white people are the ones that started the majority of the damage in the minority cities that Trump jumped on to create more violence.
how do you know it was far left?
Well just by looking at the man that's intimidating that elderly woman's skin it's obvious that he isn't a proud boy. That was an incident at the Pembura Kelley building at 47th and Burnside where the Portland Police and Multnomah County Sheriffs office share a space. This was a group of the "Defund Police" crowd trying to set the building on fire. It's in the middle of a residential area. I know for a fact that these thugs are not right wingers. They're the same people that were vandalizing and causing mayhem for months. If they're not the left then who are they and why are there no loud voices on the left condemning their behaviour? A whisper here and there is all that's been heard.
You are wrong to think that there is not strong condemnation of the violence from the left. Want to guess how many millions Biden paid to run the ads doing just that?
Since the police took sides and decided illegally in support of one side, their narrative of the situation must by extension be corrupt too. Who's commission would you trust to get to the bottom of what happened and who was responsible, Trump's or Biden's? There's your answer, Biden's appointees will follow legal procedures and let the chips fall where they may. Trump has been fabricating the false narrative you are promulgating and that makes me suspicious of your motives and perceptions of the situation. The media doesn't seem to think these people are too much of an issue, blacks burned out city centers in the 60's protesting injustice and systemic racism, were they wrong to burn down their ghettos?
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Oh they carry guns. They just don't make a big deal out of it.
