Big Buddha Seeds: Cheesus!

horribleherk said:

this setup is working out good & is really only needed about the time she starts to stretch the float controlled auto top off looks like a disaster waiting to happen & I threw together because I was going on a 3 day camping trip it worked so good I just kept it I have it set up to unplug & just use the waterfarm by itself & add it back on when she gets hungry I really like building stuff I've got 2 homemade farms growing tomatoes on my waste nutes hardest part was building the drip feed to feed off the aquarium air pump but they work

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I wished I shared you talents on custom stuff probably would have saved a fortune lol Sounds very swish. Have you seen krusty buckets and his grows?! :O

InTheSystem said:

I wished I shared you talents on custom stuff probably would have saved a fortune lol Sounds very swish. Have you seen krusty buckets and his grows?! :O

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I haven't seen it I get most of my input from you , the stickman,anonamous & then what I've picked up along the way & then kinda add my own twist to things

horribleherk said:

I haven't seen it I get most of my input from you , the stickman,anonamous & then what I've picked up along the way & then kinda add my own twist to things

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I think he gets 6 or 7 kilos off 8 plants in these with a lot of watts hanging down vertically in a small area. Its most impressive. Wont say much more though most forums and stuff don't like it. I think he was banned from them all as its effectively mass production guides but this is going back a little bit, prob fine these days lol

Back to Cheesus - decided not to put calmag in at this stage, and upped the flora grow ratio quite a bit (around 8mm grow). PPM at 450 and dropped to 400 on reading 7 or 8 hours later... Very compact girl with 6 node developments under these big leaves. She is about to go nuts as Im switching to 400w tomorrow and probably upping the feed another 100ppm. Happy days and think I'm through one of the toughest stages on a water farm grow - for me.

Ph very stable again. Got my humidity quite high by putting a couple of long tuppawares down with a towel inside filled with water to ommit humidity.. decent amount of surface area so its up to a nice 68% and seems to love it

I chopped today & in the next few days I'll get the headband kicked off

horribleherk said:

I chopped today & in the next few days I'll get the headband kicked off

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Nice mate, link me up when she is rolling and your doing a journal! Will prob update this later when i get around to getting in the cab. She's been under 400w since Sunday morning. Fucking hell i forgot the heat HPS gives off must research CMH again! Temps are around 33c but she's fine for now temperature will drop next month naturally so this won't be an issue in flower. I do also have my s&p on the low power setting so il prob switch that over tomorrow see the difference as its another 150 odd m3 i believe..

If anyones reading this and handy with electronics - could you point me in direction of wiring a relay and switch to the fan that would be rude! it has a neutral and 2 lives, 1 for each power setting in normal connector block style. (N, LP, HP) - Obviously the key being that the live is only fed to one power input at any time.. Dont particularly wanna blow a 200 euro fan lol Idea being I can switch to low at night during dead silence hours (il flower with light on in day). I have the fan in an mdf custom box (it really is as close to silent as you will get sleeping fine 2 meters away) so yer it sa bitch to take that apart to switch settings lol

Ok heres a quick pic after 2 days on HPS... Been mostly flushing as PPMs went down initially then shifted upwards quite a bit after increasing the feed. Just about got her balanced again now so will introduce a 400ppm mix including calmag as she still seems to want nitrogen and there is some minor deficiencies on the lowest leaves. Should start getting exciting come the weekend all being well!

again PH well stable in the 5.4 - 5.8 range. Little to know effort there so far which is nice. Temps are around 33-35c so a bit high but as mentioned above this can be decreased slightly with fan speed or wait 3 weeks and room temps will drop about 8 degrees plus making the current airflow more efficient on temps.. So not too worried but does need to be addressed, just keeping it as humid as poss which is the challenge.

All in all quite a fiddly start on ppm and nutrients but all part of the fun. To quote the strain description: "Cheesus is an attentive plant and needs its deciples to love and nurture it to its "God like" status! "Cheesus" will make the "sacrifice" and provide for you a huge yielding lavender, pine berry cheese flavour bud with excellent medicinal properties to heal the empty headspaces of its disciples... Cheesus Christ!!" - so I guess I should be expecting a challenge as she goes on.

stickman just got a cmh his thread is under hashbomb 250 hps dwc I'm looking into a loaner led but for now gonna run what I got tomorrow I'm gonna devote some time to my grow

Cool man yer he said in your thread. Gonna check out his thread tomorrow as his yields etc are similar with HPS so will be VERY interesting. Thanks mate

Ok guys time for an update. She has been a bit awkward tbh up till now on ppms. Just constantly rising, flushing, deficiency, nutrients, flushing. Was getting a bit pissed off but NOW I am starting to see the nice behaviour with PPMS (dropping 20-60 with water dropping similar rate to nutrient free solution) and can start upping the food now... Nice root system in place, not quite as bright white as the skywalker but white none the less. Lets see if she starts to take off now?




Oh I have started to "train" her.. By bending the top head over and tucking it under a nice weighted leaf - Nice benefit to keep her really compact rather than topping / half snapping / super cropping whatever - which will stunt growth slightly ultimately.

I will be looking at putting a SCROG screen in the next few days somewhere between 10-15inches from the plants base. Again keeping it low so when I make the flip to flower i have shit loads of head room.. I have no clue about this strain and Sativa traits showing more and more now.

Observations and thoughts though is she does look cheesey on the leaf tips and looking to be a bushy mo fucker which is nice. Grown proper UK cheese back home in the UK and definitely seeing trates

I am impressed with this S & P TD Silent fan I gotta admit. I still got it on the low setting and temps are pretty controlled at 31 lights on and 25-28 lights off. I added a clip fan pointing up and the light and at the extractors intake - sorted it right out by 5 degrees or so.

Peace

she looks good I wouldn't of figured her to be finnicky on the nutes that will probably soon pass

horribleherk said:

she looks good I wouldn't of figured her to be finnicky on the nutes that will probably soon pass

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Cheers mate. She has been a FUCKER. Big Buddha weren't lying when they said attentive plant, its a good job I work like 2 blocks from my flat so I can check on her 3 times day. Would of been lottery in a water farm being so delicate early on. Think your right though mate. Growth today has been ridic..Nutes from 450ppm, to 380ppm then up to 420ppm with ph gone from 5.5 to 5.4 so topped up with water to bring PH back to around 5.7 PPM at 390. Will check what she's doing tomorrow.

InTheSystem said:

Cheers mate. She has been a FUCKER. Big Buddha weren't lying when they said attentive plant, its a good job I work like 2 blocks from my flat so I can check on her 3 times day. Would of been lottery in a water farm being so delicate early on. Think your right though mate. Growth today has been ridic..Nutes from 450ppm, to 380ppm then up to 420ppm with ph gone from 5.5 to 5.4 so topped up with water to bring PH back to around 5.7 PPM at 390. Will check what she's doing tomorrow.

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that's the problem I was having & I ended up over feeding @ right about 500 ppm right now my babies are sitting at 710 ppm so far all is cool with the headband @ day #5 but the stardawg just started this morning we will see as the stardawg is second choice & was gonna get passed on to a friend but he is shut down for now so in gonna run it & hopefully it won't mess up my scrog

horribleherk said:

that's the problem I was having & I ended up over feeding @ right about 500 ppm right now my babies are sitting at 710 ppm so far all is cool with the headband @ day #5 but the stardawg just started this morning we will see as the stardawg is second choice & was gonna get passed on to a friend but he is shut down for now so in gonna run it & hopefully it won't mess up my scrog

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It is a general water farm snag, but generally this ones been a bitch. Iv checked the solution twice today and the ppm is just fluctuating from 410-420. So Iv left the solution in and will flush tonight and all day tomorrow to prevent any over feeding. Got the SCROG screen in. Il snap some pics at lights off.

I think both those strains you have will be beasts lol try to give them as much space as poss in my suggestion. Look forward to seeing them go got them on a decent level of nutrients. Its been years I did cuttings, are you bumping the PPM's up and seeing them drop quite early on?

InTheSystem said:

It is a general water farm snag, but generally this ones been a bitch. Iv checked the solution twice today and the ppm is just fluctuating from 410-420. So Iv left the solution in and will flush tonight and all day tomorrow to prevent any over feeding. Got the SCROG screen in. Il snap some pics at lights off.

I think both those strains you have will be beasts lol try to give them as much space as poss in my suggestion. Look forward to seeing them go got them on a decent level of nutrients. Its been years I did cuttings, are you bumping the PPM's up and seeing them drop quite early on?

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I haven't made any adjustments yet & I'll check the ppm on headband tonight after a small top off this morning

Fuck I must have been fucked up last night off this mexican hash. SCROG net is like 5 inches Higher than i wanted LOL. Will sort tomorrow and take pics.. In meant time. Pretty epic growth going down now... On a flush now till tomorrow night and I will bump the ppms to 500 to see the state of play


Im gonna call it and say under two weeks of veg left till she is ready for flower.. I usually switch to flower naturally on 900/1000 ppm and the screen 2/3s full.. I think she is going to stretch like a mo fucker. So I am going to leave myself plenty of room in the cab

horribleherk said:

I haven't made any adjustments yet & I'll check the ppm on headband tonight after a small top off this morning

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How do you find the cuttings generally respond to that? curious.. I find myself spending quite a while working up to 500 ppm (still am atm for example) Its pretty much 50/100 increment every change after flush for me then rather than juggling so much. This strain is a bad example though lols

Flushed her again tonight as PPM rise slightly.. Will leave her overnight, check again tomorrow lunch time and put her back on the juice at 450/500 as planned because of that big initial PPM drop the day before.. She is just being awkward and I am being patient.. The key to this game I suppose lol



Proper lil bush rather than bonsai right now.. Cheese all over

it seems to me that rooted cuttings aren't as bushy as from seed but are more tolerant of raising the ppm's a bit & then you have to consider what composes your ppm increase as I added cal - mag & it increased my ppm. by about 200 so I pulled some nutes & added some water not as much potential for damage as adding micro or grow but I think needs to be controled nonetheless better safe than sorry the stardawg is not adapting to the waterfarm as readily as the headband did I thought it would be the opposite liking headband more every day

Cool mate, its been years I couldn't tell you what I did accurately. All I know is I don't feed any nutrients to my seedlings for first 2 weeks. Its just straight water. But the hormones in a seed is enough to provide what it needs. I don't even believe in rhizotonic or any of that when it comes to aero/hydro - more shit, more problems. Soil different ball game though or even coco maybe (never grown in it).

Tbh I spent 30 euro on a bottle of cal mag and il only use it if I see major defiency even though I was tempted early on... I haven't smoked weed in months Im a bt reliant on this girl lol. Upping the grow and mineral water seems to cover most teething problems. I guess its that saying "Less is more" hitting us again. Now Im remembering lols

That headband is a strong mo fucker to go in a water farm at 700ppm I really look forward to seeing her adapt and take off mate.