BooMer's 5000w Medical Hydro Cannabis Laboratory w/ C02 Generator & ScrOG

Yeah, those 6" can be a struggle when the plants are small here's why. They consume very little water, therefore if you just "flood" (15 mins) the cubes you probably won't need to water for 3-5 days. But, over that period of time the ph will climb from 6-7-8... clearly unacceptable. Then your stuck, do you water to control the ph and get it down or prevent over watering while your ph spirals out of control. I was flooding them, so I think you can definitely avoid it by measuring each one like you did. Other way I have seen large rw successful is in controlled drip. Best way to check them is weight just like soil. I would expect 1 cup to last 1-2 days depending on temperature, humidity and air circulation. Always hard to say when you can't be there, but I hope this sheds some light on my problems so you can avoid them. GL.

Drella said:

yeah, it's gonna start getting hot as hell, here in cali, so we gotta rethink our lighting to keep things chill!

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forecast said that my area might get snow tonight
but it will be heating up before we know it.
I like the idea of two strains tho. what were you thinking for the next one boom?

Hey bud, Nice journal.
You asked about watering those cubes, Top feed by hand is a pain in the ass. They are in a tub already. Just fill the tub till the level is 1/4 of the way up the cube then drain it back right away. Only do this once every couple days cause they retain a lot of water when the plant is that small. Pick one up to tell how much water is still there and adjust feeding as they get larger.

sorry guys been busy recovering, gym, physical therapy, and workin on the rooms.

ill get bak to everyones posts when i can its just rough balancing everything.

but i did need sum input;

i found a single grow bucket setup using the drip setup with peat pellets for the medium. its a half bucket that sits in a full 5gallon square bucket and its a recirculating feed system. theyre saying its legit for mother plants and its an 8 bucket system. so i figure i can do 4 sour grapes, and choose another strain and get 4 cuttings of them to mother out and take new clones...

i like this idea best so far,

-its a cheap hydro solution sysstem
-low maintence
-soilless medium im using now is messing and plants need to be tied up getting too big need to be transplanted

i know hydro grows faster which is fine since between grow cycle cuttings i can take a full tray of cuttings extra and donate them to the collective so thats cool with me.

one downside is im taking as many cuttings as i can from the exisitng 5 sour grape mothers and gonna use rooting gel this time so hopefully they root soon (10days) and i can pick the strongest 4 to keep as my scions. itll give me a week or so to decide which new strain to go with and find sum clones. i really want to try master bubba cross but idk anyone with cuttings. guess ill have to look harder or on weedbay or weedtracker. i havent logged onto vendormaps in forever either so i should prob start there. but anyways i will keep the strongest 4 clones and mother them and itll take 2months before theyre ready to take their first cuttings. ive read ure supposed to wait at least 2 months for a mother being in veg before u take cuttings. im not sure how accurate that is but the downside of starting all new mothers is itll mess up my perpetual harvest for only a week or two, but in the long run itll be worth it to get 2 legit mother strains running and harvesting one hydro tray each month. each tray will hold 18 vegged clones of the same strain. so one strain per table a month apart from each other since i have two diff rez why not.

i need sum advice regarding support method for the scions; i know scrogging them was mentioned but ill have to reserch that thread too. but is the method for mothers in veg just to make a horizontal screen and keep tucking the main stems under the screen and let new small shoots come out the top and u use those for fresh cuttings while the main stem conitnues to grow sideways underneath and produce new cuttings every month or so?

then the other idea is just FIM like ive been doin to the mothers and use a tomato trellis to stick in the bucket for support when the mothers grow tall and lanky... let me know what u guys think. thanks again. rep for good advice.

Personally, I just let my mothers grow normally, no training, just the occasional pruning if they get to unwieldy. The tomato cages would work great to help support them and encourage upward vs outward growth. Just my 2c best of luck, hope the recovery is well.

If you find you have to many clones you can put them in a ziplock or tupperware with some water and put them in the fridge. The longest I kept cuttings like this is a month and they root just fine.

better late than never lol, subbed mate

Subd. I'm sitting in on this one. I've been hiding in the shadows on your last few grows, I'm loving the progress!

Hey Boomer, things are going good in here. I ended up with the in-laws portable in my grow room... Nice to see your setup. Awesome documentation.

im with SG, id just let them grow normal. once growths become mature, take a cutting. like you said, you donate the extra, so you get to keep the strong, quick rooters. with the rooting hormone this time, i hope you get youre 10 day goal! i just got done drying my last strain WWNL 3 cheese, so whenever your ready for some tasting let me know!

Outrageous setup

Great Buds---funWifey--- hell a couple a chickens and a fishing pole you can off the grid.... Love the Pots you used on that outdoor grow. I am not sure if it is your technique or if the size of the pots got you that nice outdoor potted grow working? What you in a 99 plant county?

we worked all day gettin plumbing and electric ran through the cieling in the garage into the flowering room. also finished setting up the RO system completely stand alone with float valve to shut off the water feeding into the 200gallon rez down in the garage. ill put a video together for u guys to see everything up close. and the path.

i decided to take as many cuttings as i can from the SG mothers and used clonex rooting gel to put them in the 1" RW cubes. i had 144 cuttings and put them under the humidome with heating pad and 2 T5 lamps. i dropped my 1000w and 400w MH lamps to 20/4 photoperiod and seem to be doin fine helps cool the room down so far but thyere still gettin up past 80.

i fed the mothers plain RO water with superthrive to flush and help recover from the trauma of cuttings. im givign the plants to a buddy to use as mothers for his setup instead of just tossing them.

i fed the clones that are on the veg table another feeding from the rez.
i installed the airstone pump with a 4way splitter to hook up 4 small airstones to airrate the water.
tomorrow im hookin up the hydro drip feed system for the veg table tomorrow. got a submersible pump 200gph and feeding to the drip system. im using a prefilter for the feed hose and double emitters in case one gets clogged but also for even water distribution. i was gonna do the ring emitter setup like i am for the flower table but the issue with doin a ring emitter means u have to take it apart when u want to move the RW cube from veg table to the flower table. and that can be a pain so we figured itd be easier just to do single emitters.

anyways enough talk for now. heres sum pix of work in progress...

Looking good Boomskeet, SOunds like you have some work on your hands. I may be a lazy stoner, but I am jealous of all this setup and projects you have had lately.

Hi there, you are doing great work...

I would get your flouros a little closer to your cuttings in the humidity crib if you could, they may respond better and with thicker stems... A lot more fans and movement in your grow rooms like oscillating fans will increase the strength of your plants and give them thicker stems...

I have four mother plants which I raised under a 400watt Metal Hallide... They now live underneath a 220watt propagation flouro 24 hours a day in a separate tent... The pics are of my White Widow on the right and the White Rhino on the left That is my small mother tent, I've had to expand since then.....I've taken heaps of cuttings from them, but they've always had heaps of air flow which makes them very bushy.... Even My super lemon haze who is a lanky bitch, is still bushy...

Just my 2 cents Laceygirl...

Pulling up a chair to watch things unfold...

Hey Boomer, my 2 cents is I'd keep my moms in a big pot of soil, like maybe 10-20 gallon pots. They'll grow a lot slower this way. Then when you want them to grow faster just up the nutes, and when you want them to slow down just switch to plain Ph'd water. They'll live just fine without nutes, they'll just grow much slower which can be a good thing sometimes. The soil will be much easier to work with this way. Then you could run hydro for everything else.

And the 400w is great for them, but like LG said you can always toss em under flouros and not only will they still grow great that way in veg, but it'll be a little slower and more controlled, and also there would be less heat put off by the T5's to try to help your heat issue.

And I'd def back em up to 18/6 now if they're growing to fast and temps are getting high.

I hate 24 hr vegging, tires my plants out. 18-6 is good

wonderblunder said:

I hate 24 hr vegging, tires my plants out. 18-6 is good

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me too. my plants always respond best to 18/6 or 20/4. I wonder if anyone does any weird on/off time like 19/5 or 21/3 just to be a dick and go against the grain lol

everything's lookin good tho boom
glad to hear you got some clonex for this batch of cuttings

notoriousb said:

me too. my plants always respond best to 18/6 or 20/4. I wonder if anyone does any weird on/off time like 19/5 or 21/3 just to be a dick and go against the grain lol

everything's lookin good tho boom
glad to hear you got some clonex for this batch of cuttings

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Boomer

HAve to agree with lacy on the moms and floros. 18/6 is good for them but I would just lighten up on the grow nutes enough to slow them but not stop altogether. You want your cuttings to be strong when rooting and besides you are doing perpetual and donating to the disp too. As someone also suggested you can trim the rootballs to keep them manageable.

Al B Fuct use to say you dont need mothers because you just use the cloning method to propogate more clones. Once the "mother clone" gets too big start a new mother off the mother clone and put the mother clone to flower. This way the mother you keep is always manageable. Check his thread out for info.

I am pretty sure there is a good chance I have smoked your buds, smoked platinum grape and sour grape from OC it was awesome. Nice log man!