Bringing Down Humidity NO AC

Honey Oil Riot Squad

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Hi all,
I'm running a very small grow tent (2x4x5 ft) under 400W HPS and am having a really frustrating time controlling humidity levels. Ever since moving the tent to a new safer location the humidity levels have been out of control. Veg was fine (I could care less about humidity in veg), but after switching to flower I really began to take care on keeping humidity levels down. So, I put my dehumidifier in the closet that the tent is in (not directly in the tent, that makes it way too hot). This works, but of course that just gave rise to an even bigger problem... heat. With the dehumidifier in the same closet the tent is in, all the heat builds up, even with all of my fans and ventilation working to stop it. So it's like my tent is either too hot or too humid and there is no way to get BOTH temp and humidity down to where they need to be.

I've looked into getting an AC unit, but unfortunately they are just way too expensive, and WAY too overpowered for my tiny set up. I've looked all over the place and there are just no small closet space air conditioning units ANYWHERE. And even if I was to get say a 6,000 BTU unit, that's more than doubling my power use! The 400W HPS uses enough power as it is. I like to keep my set up small, as this is just a personal grow and I have no need or interest in upgrading. So getting an AC and using a hell of a lot more electricity than I already am is pretty much out of the question. Plus where the tent is, there is no way of me venting outside an AC unit outside, I could only vent outside of the closet which i'm sure would be successful in cooling the tent, but is more of a massive WASTE of a ton of electricity than anything, because I'd just be making the rest of my house hot as balls.

I'm wondering if anybody has ways to lower humidity besides a dehumidifer or AC. I am currently still running the dehumidifier, but it is on a low setting so as to not cook the plants too much. On high, the temp ends up at a nice 95+ degrees which is WAY too fucking hot, and unfortunately on this low setting it is not helping enough. Some days it is ok, but usually the humidity remains 60 to 75% on this low setting, which is too high.

I have seen some people talk about putting a layer of sand on the bottom of the tent and am thinking about trying that. Has anybody done this, and if so, how far did your humidity drop? I've also experimented with damp rid in the past with minimal results, although I only used one bucket. Maybe getting like 5 or 6 more buckets of damp rid would also do the trick... or both sand AND damp rid. This is far cheaper, but would require cleaning and replacing the sand every week, which is a pain, but I suppose would be worth it. I am just so stuck on what to do. Anybody have advice for me with this issue?
 

Chunky Stool

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I don't understand the problem. I've got a 5X5 tent in a corner of my garage & use a 50 pint dehumidifier to keep garage temps 65-70 w/humidity 50-55%. Inside the tent when lights are on, average temps are 75-80 w/humidity 45-50%.
It works great and I can keep the garage windows closed.(Open windows are suspicious when it's cold outside.)
 

Huckster79

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before I had a dehuey, I rigged a low heat dehumidifier up. It helped, brought me from 70s rh to 60s... in 6x6x7 so a bit bigger but no mass grow. I simply took a 5 gallon bucket, drilled the piss out of it. Lined it with weed block fabric and filled it with lump charcoal (commercial but not briquets it looks like pieces of burnt log) that filled up the bulk of it and then I dumped some silica gel in it about 6-8lbs. The crap is cheap if you don't buy it as silica.... Walley world carried a 100% silica gel kitty litter. $4.88 for a 5 lb bag. Then on the lid I cut a hole and mounted a $15 bathroom fart fan. Put her together and let her rip. once the silica changed appearance you can dump the whole thing out in like a aluminum foil turkey pan and bake it off in the oven for a few hours low heat and it dries the stuff back out and ready to rock again.

Its not a dehuey, but only comes with a few watts of heat... A dehuey runs as much juice as an AC...
 

Honey Oil Riot Squad

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I don't understand the problem. I've got a 5X5 tent in a corner of my garage & use a 50 pint dehumidifier to keep garage temps 65-70 w/humidity 50-55%. Inside the tent when lights are on, average temps are 75-80 w/humidity 45-50%.
It works great and I can keep the garage windows closed.(Open windows are suspicious when it's cold outside.)
It's just in a place that is naturally a bit more humid.
 

Honey Oil Riot Squad

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before I had a dehuey, I rigged a low heat dehumidifier up. It helped, brought me from 70s rh to 60s... in 6x6x7 so a bit bigger but no mass grow. I simply took a 5 gallon bucket, drilled the piss out of it. Lined it with weed block fabric and filled it with lump charcoal (commercial but not briquets it looks like pieces of burnt log) that filled up the bulk of it and then I dumped some silica gel in it about 6-8lbs. The crap is cheap if you don't buy it as silica.... Walley world carried a 100% silica gel kitty litter. $4.88 for a 5 lb bag. Then on the lid I cut a hole and mounted a $15 bathroom fart fan. Put her together and let her rip. once the silica changed appearance you can dump the whole thing out in like a aluminum foil turkey pan and bake it off in the oven for a few hours low heat and it dries the stuff back out and ready to rock again.

Its not a dehuey, but only comes with a few watts of heat... A dehuey runs as much juice as an AC...
Holy shit... that's great. Exactly the kinda thing I was thinking. I wish i'd seen this before I just went and lugged a bunch of sand to my house lol but whatever it was really cheap. Though the sand might work as well in place of the silica gel. But the fan idea... that's really smart. That's just ingenious of you. I think I will try that. Thanks!!

Btw I had a no way moment about the dehuey power usage so I googled it... your standard dehuey uses about 250 to 300W. Where as a "medium" sized AC (12,000 BTU-15,000 BTU), uses a good 900W.
 

Chunky Stool

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before I had a dehuey, I rigged a low heat dehumidifier up. It helped, brought me from 70s rh to 60s... in 6x6x7 so a bit bigger but no mass grow. I simply took a 5 gallon bucket, drilled the piss out of it. Lined it with weed block fabric and filled it with lump charcoal (commercial but not briquets it looks like pieces of burnt log) that filled up the bulk of it and then I dumped some silica gel in it about 6-8lbs. The crap is cheap if you don't buy it as silica.... Walley world carried a 100% silica gel kitty litter. $4.88 for a 5 lb bag. Then on the lid I cut a hole and mounted a $15 bathroom fart fan. Put her together and let her rip. once the silica changed appearance you can dump the whole thing out in like a aluminum foil turkey pan and bake it off in the oven for a few hours low heat and it dries the stuff back out and ready to rock again.

Its not a dehuey, but only comes with a few watts of heat... A dehuey runs as much juice as an AC...
I bet this dehumidifier contains the silica gel you are talking about. I plug it in once a month and the crystals change color when dry (recharged). Works great in a gun safe to prevent rust and mold.
https://www.amazon.com/Improved-Eva-dry-E-333-Renewable-Dehumidifier/dp/B000H0XFCS/ref=sxr_rr_xsim1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=2286650982&pf_rd_r=0FCX1RWE74QZCKPJ1G0K&pd_rd_wg=dQbXl&pf_rd_s=desktop-rhs-carousels&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_w=jepdV&pf_rd_i=damp+rid+high+capacity&pd_rd_r=3Q8N2PFKYT4A4MD5ZJH1&ie=UTF8&qid=1476765654&sr=1
 

Honey Oil Riot Squad

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Funny, I actually just picked up a mini dehuey like this before even reading this with the silica gel. Just one small one (they were on clearance). Seems to have little difference. But get a bunch of them and maybe. All these products are similar to damp rid/ sand/ rice in the way they work. It's strange there arnt products out there like what Huckster came up with a plan for (using a fan to blow and direct humid air right into the drying medium). Still planning on trying that with a TON of sand. 150 pounds lol... if that doesn't work, I'm just lining the entire floor mat in the tent with the sand. I'll post if it ends up working
 

Lordhooha

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Hi all,
I'm running a very small grow tent (2x4x5 ft) under 400W HPS and am having a really frustrating time controlling humidity levels. Ever since moving the tent to a new safer location the humidity levels have been out of control. Veg was fine (I could care less about humidity in veg), but after switching to flower I really began to take care on keeping humidity levels down. So, I put my dehumidifier in the closet that the tent is in (not directly in the tent, that makes it way too hot). This works, but of course that just gave rise to an even bigger problem... heat. With the dehumidifier in the same closet the tent is in, all the heat builds up, even with all of my fans and ventilation working to stop it. So it's like my tent is either too hot or too humid and there is no way to get BOTH temp and humidity down to where they need to be.

I've looked into getting an AC unit, but unfortunately they are just way too expensive, and WAY too overpowered for my tiny set up. I've looked all over the place and there are just no small closet space air conditioning units ANYWHERE. And even if I was to get say a 6,000 BTU unit, that's more than doubling my power use! The 400W HPS uses enough power as it is. I like to keep my set up small, as this is just a personal grow and I have no need or interest in upgrading. So getting an AC and using a hell of a lot more electricity than I already am is pretty much out of the question. Plus where the tent is, there is no way of me venting outside an AC unit outside, I could only vent outside of the closet which i'm sure would be successful in cooling the tent, but is more of a massive WASTE of a ton of electricity than anything, because I'd just be making the rest of my house hot as balls.

I'm wondering if anybody has ways to lower humidity besides a dehumidifer or AC. I am currently still running the dehumidifier, but it is on a low setting so as to not cook the plants too much. On high, the temp ends up at a nice 95+ degrees which is WAY too fucking hot, and unfortunately on this low setting it is not helping enough. Some days it is ok, but usually the humidity remains 60 to 75% on this low setting, which is too high.

I have seen some people talk about putting a layer of sand on the bottom of the tent and am thinking about trying that. Has anybody done this, and if so, how far did your humidity drop? I've also experimented with damp rid in the past with minimal results, although I only used one bucket. Maybe getting like 5 or 6 more buckets of damp rid would also do the trick... or both sand AND damp rid. This is far cheaper, but would require cleaning and replacing the sand every week, which is a pain, but I suppose would be worth it. I am just so stuck on what to do. Anybody have advice for me with this issue?
So why are you unable to vent to the great outdoors? That would suck out the heat and humidity and most fans don't use much energy.
 

Cyrus420

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You have your tent in a closet? That might be the issue. If you're venting out of the tent you need to make sure fresh air is also coming in with a high enough CFM your fan can simply pull air into the tent via pressure difference. With an inline fan in place running at an efficient rate your tent should come to match the temps and humidity of the room it is in. Where is your air getting vented to? You need to either vent into a big open room with AC or outside, venting into the very space the closet is in will only be putting that hot air back near the closet ready to be sucked back up.

The way you describe things it simply sounds like your venting is way off.
 

Honey Oil Riot Squad

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Just to clarify to everyone I want to share what I did that worked.
I did get sand, but I never ended up putting it in. it just seems like if would be a mess. I might put it in the very last week of flower to see what happens with humidity and maybe get that extra umph to really get some dense buds.

BUT I have managed to solve the problem with two methods.
1. I moved the tent out of that closet. (I did have intake and outtake vents going BTW) But there was just no way that tiny space can get the heat moved around enough without going out and getting crazy high cfm fans. Especially with a dehuey in there. Although a better main inline fan sounds like a worthy investment for the future, I like to save my money. I moved it to another "closetish" space that is much bigger. But that's besides the point... you would not believe what I found in this new space. When I was setting up I saw a mysterious duct vent that was just sitting in the open not connected to anything. I don't have ac but amazingly the vent was blowing a bit of cold air! I was intrigued, so I started looking for where this vent is coming from, only to find that it just goes straight outside! RANDOM AF just found a vent to the outdoors. I don't want to vent heat outside so I am actually using it as an intake for an "air conditioner" (but free!) while it's nice and chilly out in November. Works like a charm to keep it cool, but humidity was still an issue. So...

2. I got crafty with ventilation and my dehuey. I put a boot and duct on the outtake vent of my dehuey and a t-split onto my carbon filter and hooked the venting air from my dehuey right to the carbon filter to stop smell. (Took like two rooms of duct tape to seal that thing) It doesnt really make sense that venting the dry air actually dehumidifies the tent, but amazingly, it does. Humidity is now at 30 to 50 at all times so long as I keep emptying it. AND no smell, which was the issue with just hooking it to the side of the tent anyways. The carbon filter is also outside the closet so that the heat from the dehuey doesn't heat the clost much, but it doesnt matter all that much bc I'm taking in air from outdoors with my random AF free vent that I found. Works like a charm! no ac! and cheap dehuey!



But back on the vent thing... funny story. I can't think of any reason for this vent being here other than for what I'm using it with (growing the goods). So then I notice a patch on the wall for some reason, and I'm like if there's a hole behind this... and I ripped it off just to see and lololololololol there's a jankity ass hole in the wall for ventilation. Meaning im 99% sure whoever lived here last was growing and I just utilized there old set up. I love it.
 
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