hater hurter
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mispost, sorry
Thanks for taking the time to look this up. Unfortunately though what's on paper and what they actually have money to do are two very different things. The state system is broken and bankrupt and they have had to cut back drastically. Unless you are about to pop out a kid or recently did pop out a kid they just don't have money to help and they just refer people to other broken federal programs or to non-profit private bum shelters.
Our employers already pay for some peoples insurance or part of it and then the individuals pay a large chunk as well and much of that money goes straight to profit, millions in bonuses and to wine and dine doctors and give them free drug samples and pens and special visits all the time for various drugs they want docs to push.
A for profit system of the type we have that only covers a few people is more expensive than a socialized system that would cover everyone.
I also don't think you really understand what rate you are taxed. Some countries it's clear, other countries like ours you are taxed at every turn by everything you do or buy but it's just not all shown clearly in one place.
We pay too much and get too little with the system we have now.
Yes, but OM do you really think that the government has any interest in making you independent of them. I have a friend on SS Disability that attempted to come up with a PASS (Plan to Achieve Self-Sufficiency) that would allow him to try starting a business.I already explained to you it goes off household income and I do not live alone. Go ahead and call and ask man...
Besides that is not what I'm looking for. I don't want food stamps, I want my back fixed so I can be a productive member of society and take care of myself. Just setting me up to be a drain on society for the rest of my life is bullshit it costs you more and we all get less.
You don't understand the situation and don't care to think that the system is broken and talking about all this just pisses me off. I'm not going to debate on this topic any longer it just makes my pain worse when I get all stressed.
"automatically qualified"I already explained to you it goes off household income and I do not live alone. Go ahead and call and ask man...
So... uh... why are you applying for it every year? Yes... yes there is that. The gorgeous thing about the truth is that you don't have to work around it.Besides that is not what I'm looking for.
It isn't food stamps. It is fucking health coverage. I linked the schedule of benefits. The maximum you will pay is 30% for your surgery. I just gave you 70,000 dollars.I don't want food stamps, I want my back fixed so I can be a productive member of society and take care of myself. Just setting me up to be a drain on society for the rest of my life is bullshit it costs you more and we all get less.
You don't understand the situation and don't care to think that the system is broken and talking about all this just pisses me off. I'm not going to debate on this topic any longer it just makes my pain worse when I get all stressed.
That never happens in the uk, you get treated virtually straight away depending on hospital busyness, im talking minutes to hours not weeks to months! thats crazy.I woudn't want to be in the UK and break my leg and wait 14 months to get it fixed. .
It is in the benefits which I linked you to, as is the exclusions link... which you didn't click. You will have a 6 month wait for the pre-existing. If you actually wanted to get "better" you would click, just for the merest chance it would help you... I mean since YOU are the one suggesting socialized medicine that will cover you... you CLAIM to be justified in sucking of of the BIG government teat... what is wrong with the local one? If you REALLY took the position, AND wanted to get better... you would have clicked the link.Knock yourself out...
Ask them specifically about the health coverage and what it covers if it covers major surgery to fix a broken back or if it just covers basic services.
Straw man.I can get a checkup every month if I wanted to just verify I'm still fucked and it didn't magically heal itself. Oh and sure they'd give me all the oxy or morphine I might want for free and food stamps. None of which I want.
It is OREGON government. I don't pay SHIT for it. And it is a real decent, affordable policy. It covers you. You don't care enough to even read the docs. It is a 2,000,000 maximum payout. It is decent considering your situation.You want to direct me to every government tit I can suck on and I'm here argiuing with you that I don't want to be on the tit. I think it's backwards you direct me to do what you hate people doing.
I can't make you look the fool Ray, only you can do that.Thanks for taking the time though even if your motive is just to try and make me look the fool.
But they still died, so you can't not count them.Taking accidental deaths and homicides between 1980 and 1999 into account, they calculate that instead of being at near the bottom of the list of developed countries, U.S. life expectancy would actually rank at the top.
We are still high on prenatal deaths so that is out too. See you missed a important part that "The authors calculate that if Canada had the same the distribution of low-weight births as the U.S."America's relatively high infant mortality rate also lowers our life expectancy ranking. A 2007 study done by Baruch College economists June and David O"Neill sheds some light on why U.S. infant mortality rates are higher—more low weight births. In their study, U.S. infant mortality was 6.8 per 1,000 live births, and Canada's was 5.3. Low birth weight significantly increases an infant's chance of dying. Teen mothers are much more likely to bear low birth weight babies and teen motherhood is almost three times higher in the U.S. than it is in Canada. The authors calculate that if Canada had the same the distribution of low-weight births as the U.S., its infant mortality rate would rise above the U.S. rate of 6.8 per 1,000 live births to 7.06. On the other hand, if the U.S. had Canada's distribution of low-weight births, its infant mortality rate would fall to 5.4. In other words, the American health care system is much better than Canada's at saving low birth weight babies —we just have more babies who are likely to die before their first birthdays.
I thought that you were talking about the way it is now. Yes, that is exactly why the regulations in this bill is so important. We cannot have people with broken backs not get the treatment that they need. And what would the difference be between having someone go on medicaid and we pay for it, vs. if they cannot afford to we pay for it?Read the policy. It is designed specifically to cover people in is situation... set up by his state. Thanks for reminding me... I forgot to call.
I did end up reading most of it after I posted, I just wouldn't jump down someones throat for having issues with the medical system. It is not like he can read a book and improve his situation.I asked Ray REPEATEDLY to stop making this personal. He refused... so I complied. Read the whole thing. Don't bring your personal life into a health care debate unless you want to talk about your personal life. Or how about this... Don't lie. If I catch you in a lie, I will absolutely hang you with it.
I take it all in.Also, I believe our health care is less to blame for our mortality than our diets. We are fat. That causes complications. We eat chemicals and shit. Not doctors faults that we kill ourselves.
Have a political party and their donors dump millions into a smear campaign about how it is going to bankrupt your country with lie after lie, how it is the next step to removing everyone of your rights and you will be tossed into a FEMA camp. Then they get the paid for bloggers to mobilize grandma and grandpa with misinformation that they will be killed by deathpanels and that it is a big scary nazi that is in office.anyone can say what they like, my personal experience has had me in the NHS hospitals many many times, waiting times can be a bit annoying, but other than that, i can't personally offer one reason for myself not to like the NHS and what it's doing.