Bud porn..take a look!

Uncle Ben said:

Thanks, was just curious. I've applied it late, like a couple of weeks prior to harvest just to see if there was anything to the story. Couldn't tell any difference.

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HeartlandHank said:

Sir Ganja, Master Gadener is a position with the county. Master Gardeners are selected and trained.
Some counties let anyone in, some are very selective.
In my county, every year, 300 people attend the info session, 200 apply, 75 are selected for an interview and 30 are chosen.
It is not self proclaimed. It's one of those things in the world of gardening that most MJ growers would not know about. It is a good way to get involved in your local scene, provide a service to the community and have access to great resources. People and literature.

Google "(your county) Master Gardener help desk"... you can call that number and ask any question you want. You can also get in touch with specialists, like your county entomologist, who can help you with identification of buggers. You can get soil samples analyzed, etc. Great resource. Free.

Here is the thing about advice from an MG who is on the clock... not only are MG's selected to know their shit.. but an MG cannot give you advice that does not have literature to back it up. So, an MG cannot give you advice based on a feeling or anything that has not been run through the scientific method. In other words, no bullshit from an MG.

Some MG's behind the phone at the help desk are more knowledgeable than others. But, I can almost guarantee you that even on a bad day, you will get better advice with that phone call than you would most days on RIU. Nothing against RIU.. it's just the way MJ growing is... lots of people playing botanist with very little experience in botany.

On the master gardeners page you can find free seminars, demos, stuff like that. These folks know their stuff. Wish we had more of those folks here on RIU... in time. We're getting more and more young folks in the MGA in my county every year.

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NietzscheKeen said:

I know this question wasn't for me, but I'm hoping for feedback as well.
I use 1., 2., 3., and 5. I don't know anything about the other stuff.

There are scientific papers and university studies stating the benefits of 1,2,3 and 5. 5, IMO, is only beneficial in organic growing. If you're using it in petroleum based products you are wasting your time and money as the mycos don't do well when mixed.

Silica helps protect your plant from a lot of problems. Heat, drought, disease, etc.
Kelp... I don't really know what the deal is with kelp, but I know it is used by quite a few agricultural universities... so that is good enough for me.
Humic acids are also beneficial especially if using a soilless medium. Humic acid is found in composted materials and is great for root development and ORGANIC nutrient uptake. I'm still unfamiliar with the last two, kelp and humic acid, so if I've given any incorrect information, I hope someone will correct me.

You can always google these and you will easily find pdfs published by universities.

Sir Ganga "Pretty hard flushing a field...IMO...My granddaddy said flyin is for the birds "retard".....Some peoples kids!"

I normally don't respond to personal insults, but lets leave the family out of it. I was merely making the point that a lot of what I've been taught has come from AT LEAST three generations of farming families. My grandfather is 84 years old and was walking behind a mule when he a kid. I tend to trust most of what he says as 70+ years of agricultural experience speaks for itself. Next time you eat a Mariani Sun-Dried tomato or Blueberries; there is a good chance you are eating something I've grown.

And in regards to flushing a field. We had an inlet from a nearby pond/river and could easily have "flushed" the plants if they wanted; so it can be done. It's called flood irrigation, lol.

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Uncle Ben said:

No to all but myco, and then you don't know if you're getting the benefit as the microbes must come out of dormancy and then colonize with the roots' rhizosphere. Regarding humates, peat moss and compost are rich in these acids. Bottom line, if you want a one part solution it's hard to beat DG Foliage Pro. It has everything a plant requires.

UB

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Kite High said:

I use silica but to be honest I am not sure if the benefit comes from the silica or the potassium.... or both...

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Uncle Ben said:

No to all but myco, and then you don't know if you're getting the benefit as the microbes must come out of dormancy and then colonize with the roots' rhizosphere.
UB

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NietzscheKeen said:

I'm posting this because I was confused about it and thought this was good info.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fminds.wisconsin.edu%2Fbitstream%2F1793%2F11591%2F1%2FSilicon.pdf&ei=JD-hUcCzD8f50gHr3IEw&usg=AFQjCNG2aOelYKPoa6S4jTrfkxLbs2VdXA&sig2=o6v4XFDyKEHal6ABQzv4Yw&bvm=bv.47008514,d.dmQ

It's in PDF format and discusses the difference and benefits of Silica, Silicon, Silicates and Silicone.

This website is also good:
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-silicon-and-vs-silica/

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Uncle Ben said:

What a hoot! I had a visit from one of Texas' pioneers of horticulture yesterday. This is an older man (that doesn't look a day over 60) that has experimented with about every kind of cultural factor, plant and product out there, knows Dr. Carl Whitcomb very well, etc. and he brought up one of his experiences - using Mycohorrize applications in pots. Said he had been prodded by a myco sales guy to try their product so he set up a control group and applied it to like 40 pots. Time went by, and after 2 years of seeing no noticeable differences he laughs and says, "I'm reading this paper and it says that myco doesn't work with plants in pots." Now, these were perennials so if mycorrhiza doesn't work on them, sure as hell isn't be of benefit to annuals.

The aggies sure swear by it but its usefulness seems to be limited to field grown crops. This is a must read - http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/faculty/davies/research/mycorrhizae.html

UB

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Uncle Ben said:

Once date a gal that really fine tits. Was quite disappointed when I found out they were full of silica.

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Kite High said:

I too am sort of conducting a mycho text of sorts. I usually use promix hp w mycho. Well upon preparing for transplant to the 10 gazillions I saw I only had enough for 2 pots. So off to the nursery only to find they were out so I purchased regular sunshine #4 with no mycho. So two pots have it and 2 do not. So far I see no difference at all in growth and I will see how this pans out at harvest. Another factor I believe besides containers and the short grow time is the synthetic nutes starve them with nothing for them to feed. But so far I think your friend is absolutely correct. I know I will never spend Money on it for sure. The promix and sunshine are the same price where I get it from. Liking the sunshine slot and will probably stick to that.

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Uncle Ben said:

Keep us posted bro.

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kushhound187 said:

I dont think mychorrhiza is for making plants grow bigger. it makes root systems more developed. I find roots from just sunshine 4 compared to sunshine with added myco, well i find the roots are more developed.

it dosent directly make your plants bigger, but it makes them have happy roots...

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Kite High said:

I get awesome plants with no bloom boost crap

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