Canefan's New Grow 2010

grow space

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I dunno man.. I may, but I am to paranoid right now to do it, and also i have been witnessing that this forum is really going down the crapper, most of the finer crowd are my friends and those are not so many at all...Thats way i was away for a long time too, but i am adjusting again and whatever my opinions are, this is still one of my fav. forums .
I had some problems with some of my seedlings as well some time ago, some bastard ate half of the seedling, but to my luck, it is growing fine now( never again i am going to start seedlings straight in outdoors), weee!!!!
Oh yeah, i also got yesterday 3 dina fem. disels that i try to clone so i can have some of that disel mind warp going on :lol:

keep us posted canefan.....:peace:
 

canefan

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I am so happy so see that you dropped by Simply. I was wondering what had happened to you. Now that you and Growspace are reading I feel just like old times again. I hope that all is going well with you and your grows. Where is your journal? How did you grow last year finish up?
 

canefan

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I know how you feel if I was in the UK or the States I would probably feel the same be paranoid also :shock: but down here in paradise I just keep to myself and the country really doesn't have the time nor the money to worry about a person with a couple of plants. Have to tell you a funny story, there were 2 Americans close to San Jose that were growing 21 plants in containers outside their apartment on the street. They did get busted, they were taken to the airport and put on a plane and sent back to the States. What happened then I don't know but there are some stupid people that are walking around today.
Also, I have to say that I share your thoughts on the state of this site. I just don't know what happened, after so many years of great posts and feeling of family. Today there seems to be a new breed of so called growers here and very few of us oldtimers left. I hope this too will swing back into our favor so I just keep trying to give a little advice to those that will listen and share and ignore all the others. This is why we need folks like you and Simplybaked here to keep the site on the right track. I can't wait to see you AK47. Good luck my friend :joint:
 

grow space

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Yea cane, i wish one day i can get out of this shithole and live in a paradise like you have, actually my dream is ti get my operations going in perido of 1-2 years, and then get the hell out of here to Cali, where i could legally grow in my own lot and sell some for clubs and keep some for me:weed::weed:, and maybe one day, to open my own shop...
one weird thing has happen to me this season, i cannot clone no more, i have lost my mojo.Never i had failed with my old methods, i just cloned straight in water or straight in soil, and had 85% success rate, now it freaking 15%, weird:?

As always friend, good luck to you to...:peace::joint:
 

canefan

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I hear you my brother Growspace, I hope that you get to where you can have peace again and doing some nonparanoid growing. Paradise here is great, the altitude though sure makes the weather uncertain and a real challenge to grow plants start to finish.
I had a similiar problem last year at one point with cloning seemed like it didn't matter the strain I killed them.:evil: One problem was truly the El Monstre it just won't clone for me, overall rate is only like 2 out of 20 odd cuttings. I was cloning in water as you do, 90% or so, soil at about 80 to 85%, rockwool about 95%. All under a 23 watt cfl and sitting atop my dsl modem. I came to the conclusion that one I stopped using superthrive, first mistake, and two I became more aware of the moon phase when taking my cuttings again. I find it funny how you can get rushed or just not feel real chipper and get out of old habits. When I switched back to the descending moon for root growth my rate came back up to normal with or without superthrive. Now, I still feel more comfy using the rockwool for cloning, darkside of the moon, superthrive and being back to my old results.
I still hate using rockwool to start my seedlings in though. I have lost more plants this way. I guess I am an old dog not learning the new lessons very well....lol. I found that and it had never occurred to me beforehand, that the rockwool was drying out superfast in the soil, the soil would be wet but looks like it was drawing all of the moisture away from the rockwool and my plants would just been over and die. No more back to soil start to finish on my seedlings. So, growspace my friend try another strain and see if that clones better and the darkside of the moon. My grandfather is probably rolling in his grave with me getting away from the moon phases.
I know I sure miss reading your posts on hear, quality of questions and responses sure are hurting these days.
Keep cloning it will come back my friend you are too good of a gardener not to have unlimited success.:weed:
 

canefan

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Well a quick update but it is raining so no new pics today maybe tomorrow morning I can. The seedlings that were started and dying in the rockwool and new compost are doing better now that I changed the soild for them. I found an old container that had a plant in from last year and mixed the soil up real well, added a little wood ash and some molasses to the soil then popped in the seedlings into this soil. Worked like a charm:weed:. The two cuttings that I took from Yema are both rooted one in 9 days the other in 11 days. Yema was just being revegged from the flower stage if you remember and the clones rooted fast for me and for once actually held their color and didn't lose one leaf in the process....yeah!!!! The other clone is growing slowly, I still think that the cutting was a bit small but she is growing now and looks good so I won't complain. Next step is to root my male as I want to pollinate the new clones with him. He is looking good, slow to put on his pollen sacs and stretching out nicely, well over two feet now and showing more of the sativa side which is the dominate side I want. See even a blind squirrel gets an acorn now and then. I stepped up the sannie jack seedling yesterday and put her into the flower cycle routine she is about 18 inches tall and if she does half of what momma did she will finish at about 4 feet.
Thanks for all the readers and more comments are always welcome and appreciated.
 

canefan

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I have the camera back and I feel so much better now about the journal. I am sure that you will all get tired of the photos and the updates now but what else can I say. I had my back go out last week so there wasn't much I did other than smoke, read and watch the tele:mrgreen:. I went several days not being able to walk down to the plants, so my better half was put into service again and this time she didn't have anything bad happen....LOL.
Well here is the update of the plants along with some new photos to go along. I sure can't keep these plants straight without this journal, at least as far as time lines go.
Yema, my big girl is doing nicely now. She is into her second week of flower and from the looks of her and what her parents were like I think she will go about 12 weeks or so to be finished. She is looking great, starting to get a little frost on her and smelling more like skunk than any of her other traits. I say this about the smell because I love the skunk, she is budding more like the Sannie's Jack and has the growth pattern of Linda. Refresher Linda is Hawain x Skunk#1.
Guess I should make more entries so that I can keep these different plants together and I remember which is which.:blsmoke:
 

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grow space

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Looking healthy as always mann...12 weeks eh, can the weather be rewarding for such a long time or are u planning to move them or build something over them...sorry, dont know your climate...









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canefan

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Thanks Growspace for the comments, hope all is well with you this week. As far as weather goes and the 12 weeks, they will be fine. Here in Costa Rica the weather is much the same year round except for the rainy months vs the dry months. We are now entering the rainest months of the year, Sept and Oct. November is the windest month of the year, so I only have to protect from the wind then. LOL November being the windest month, I have to tell you here on the mountain we have 100 mph winds regularly during that month.
I will have updates today on my male plant and some of the other smaller ones, looks like the rain is going to hold off for me this morning. As soon as it is light enough outside I will go get some pics
Happy Growing to all especially to the organic growers.:joint::joint:
 

canefan

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I have been really lazy with the journal this week:hump:. I took some pics of my male yesterday and was going to take some of Yema also but got rained out after the male. Things have been slow due to all day rains the past week, good news is that we have had very little wind.
Yema is in about her second week of flower and looking very good nice deep lush green. I believe this is a carry over from the flower of this cross. The male is looking just right for the pheno of Yema, nice full bodied plant with a big stem (important feature in the mountains). He has been slow to mature which I am fine with, the mother (Linda) took about 11 weeks to finish flowering. I can wait, personally I enjoy the more slow to flower when I am smoking it. To me it seems to be a smooth richer smoke when dried and cured nice and slowly also.
Sorry, I ramble need to put the pipe down and finish. Here is a pic of the male which will have his pollen sacs removed over the next two days and then be returned to the compost pile.:mrgreen: I should add that this male has had nothing fed to him the entire grow, he is solely a product of my homemade soil.
 

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grow space

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Looks like your soil is a banger..good looking male also cane...
Damn, i have always wanted to make my own seeds, but in my location, its hard to get something good, and the only safe bet is on here to get clones from a good source...It would be sweet to make seeds with the same strain four a couple of years and then see the results, something like guerilla gold would be nice, anyways fuck me, hail to you:lol:
Whats the longest time u have acclimated your strains ?



Keep it green bro...:peace:
 

canefan

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Good Morning all, Thank you growspace for your nice comments. In answer to your question about climatizing my gene pool, now I am on my 4th generation from Linda (Hawaii x skunk#1), Runt (BS with the pink pistils) is in her 3rd generation and the rest are just into their 2nd generation here. When I was living in Florida I had my nice little collection of seeds which I had been using for breeding back and forth for a little over 20 years. These little girls were sweet and make great plants for the location I was in, they were extremely hardy, no problem with mold or bud rot. I am sorry to say that once I moved down to Costa Rica all my seeds were stolen :evil:.
Today I don't know if the loss of those seeds was a blessing or a curse. The climate is so much different here at 6500 ft above sea level, temps never over 75 F or cooler than 52 F. We receive around 200 inches of rain a year and have very gusty winds. So my new seed pool does have better genetics starting out or at least some of the newer genetics. On the other hand I haven't noticed much difference in the high over what I ended up with from my own program.
Now for the update on Yema ----She is in about her second week of full flower. The buds are doing well, not the biggest or fastest growing but her mother was much the same. Linda's buds rarely got much bigger than a half dollar in size but were dense, hard and very mold resistent. This last trait is the one I am trying to preserve above the rest. Yema has retained most of her mother's growing traits, nice darker green and holding the color well into flowering along with an abundance of fan leaves.
Yema has been a light feeder, growing in good soil, she has only had 1 dose of manure tea and one of molasses. The biggest reason she has only gotten one feeding is that fact that it has rained so much this year in August. The closest guess is about 35 inches in the past month with much more coming this month. I have moved her to the shed now in order to allow her to dry out a bit more and start feeding her more molasses. I will probably only give her another dose or two of molasses unless she starts showing a greater need than she has now.
I was hoping to pollinate her today but the male is not ready yet. He is looking as though tomorrow will be the day for this, I hope. I will pollinate 2 smaller branches on the bottom of the plant, only trying to get 10 to 20 seeds from her.
Thanks for all the views I have been getting. Please feel free to say hello what you like or don't like about my grow, suggestions and comments good or bad. Happy growing to all and keep it organic.:joint::joint:
 

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Busy day on the farm, trying to beat the coming rainstorm I got all the babies stepped up into their 1 gallon containers, took clones and put a male clone into the dirt today. So let me go over what was done so I can keep track of the different grows timetable.
Yema pheno2 (the plant that had its roots eaten off last month): I took two clones from her today. I am pleased that I was able to get two nice cuttings off of a clone that I took last month.:mrgreen: She is the first photo.
I have 2 yema males phenos the one which is going to be back crossed with yema p1 the one in flower on the previous post. The second photo is a clone from the first pheno male which I took the cuttings and then returned to the compost pile. This males was very sativa dominate and I didn't have a suitable cross at the time.
The group of seeds germed last month are now up and growing well, the ones that weren't eaten anyway. I germed 12 seeds had 9 sprout, 4 eaten, it has been that kind of year:roll:. I stepped up two these today into 1 gallon containers. Using fresh compost and adding wood ash as a top dressing. The woodash helps with the ants and brings up the PH to just the right level, I do this each time I step up the babies. The last 3 are what I am calling now simply Sannie's kids.
 

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I pollinated Yema on Friday and today (Monday) you can see that the pistils on the one branch I pollinated has taken. The pistils are dying back nicely......yeah:mrgreen:. Yema is looking more and more like her mother plant. The buds are forming nicely, not real big, but her mother was not the largest producer of buds either. The buds are getting nice and frosty more so than the mother but equally as frosty as the parent strain was (male). The male comes from Sannie's Jack and the females of that strain were extremely frosty so I guess I picked the right male for this cross. I figure that I have about 6 weeks left on Yema now maybe a bit more but time and weather will determine that, I am just waiting like a little school boy:blsmoke:.
Everything else on the grow is going well right now, the clones are growing and the seedlings are starting to hit their stride now. I will update on the other later this week probably on Wednesday or Tuesday. I am off to town now to get my motorcycle worked on.
The pics posted are of Yema taken yesterday, she is almost a month now into her flower period. I set her outside in the middle of August and it took her about two weeks to make the tranistion to flower.
All comments and suggestions welcome, thanks to all the viewers and Happy Growing the organic way.:joint::joint:
 

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grow space

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Looking good as always mann...And wow on your 20 years of breeding, and again sorry for your loss, but yeah, we all need to move on at some point..Peace mann, keep it organicly superb...:peace:
 

canefan

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Thanks Simplybaked and Growspace for your comments. Everything seems to be as it should be this year I reckon, each grow seems to have its own problems that crop up you have never seen before. This year after finally having most insects on the farm under control except for the damn ants, the field next door started growing veggies. Sounds harmless enough, but they are chemical farmers and chased off all their insects to safer grounds,:cry:. LOL at least I figured out where the hell they are all coming from which we all know is at least half the battle.
The second thing I am encountering this year is very acidic rain and probably will until the end of October. We have an active volcano close by and the tradewinds are just right now through October to bring the venting just to our east which means the easterly rains we get this time of year is full of this shit!!!! I have seen damage to my bananas, my other fruit shrubs and trees and now starting to see the damage with other flowers and ornamentals.
Rain update.....talk about rain, from Saturday through last night (Tuesday) we have had over 9 inches of rain. I wish I could say it would be over soon but October is our rainiest month with a close to 40 inch average for the month.
Happy Growing to all and once again all comments and suggestions are welcome.
 

canefan

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Just a quick update on the pollination of Yema. I went out yesterday and checked on my girl to see how she was progressing since I pollinated her :mrgreen:. I snapped a few photos of the buds to show how the pistils are browning, showing that they have indeed accepted the pollen from the male. I also have to enclose 1 of my wild orchids growing on the farm, this is just the beginning of season I hope to show ya'll lots more of the pretty orchids that are either wild or brought to the farm and introduced back into the wild. I have well over 100 species growing around the farm all in their natural settings.
Hope you enjoy, Happy Growing and keep it organic the simpler the better.:joint::joint:
Sorry the pics didn't load in the correct order but the first one shows a bud next to the ones I pollinated, I wanted to show that with an artist's paintbrush it is easy to selectively pollinate specific buds and not get a bunch of unwanted seeds, Hope you can tell the orchid from the other bud pics.....:hump:
 

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Quick update on one of my seedlings, the little one eaten by ants last month made a nice recovery and was growing again only about 10 days ago was again eaten by a catapillar this time. I felt badly because the second time the critter left nothing but the first leaves when it germs....lol. I was disappointed but the stem was alive so I have been keeping it with everyone else and keeping watered just like she was like all her other brothers and sisters.:mrgreen: Yesterday I notices a little bit of new green emerge so today I took some closeups of the baby to share. I realize that she is far from alive and well, but for today I will take still alive and growing again.
I also stepped up two of my clones today into 3 gallon containers and set them out to flower with Yema.
In the photos the little nub was planted germed and grew with the other two in photos just to show what she has been through....LOL.
 

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