jimmyjamusa
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one more quick question.... anyone know a good thread about making cuttings and having a 99-100% success rate?.... i couldn't find one, but i am not familiar with the workings of this site....
Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome
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For anyone that disagrees, I am a 20 year old male living in southern orange county and for one year maybe a little longer, I have been and in a unforgiving cycle of nausea and vomiting usually occurring every month or lasting for up to a week at times. It would start off as this, I would suddenly wake up and have literally all of the symptoms originally stated by the poster, suffering from nonstop vomiting, extreme pain etc. I had been in an out of emergency rooms, having had numerous tests done and always being told by professionals it was my eating habits or from an unknown cause maybe even psychological. They stated the only cure for chronic gastritis was to not irritate the stomach in general with spicy foods. Antacids and Pepcid quickly became my best friend. Then last week I was back at square one for the millionth time. After 4 days of repetitive vomiting I made it through like always and then decided I was well enough to smoke some concentrates out of my bong with a newly purchased titanium nail. After doing so, I felt completely fine and even hungry. I ate a bagel and had sum jello thinking it was all in the past..After a few hours my stomach pain was returning, this made me uneasy and rather than smoke more i just thought I could sleep it off, Man was I wrong, upon waking up I was running to the toilet and feeling like I was back at square one, I was retching and vomiting up nothing but bile and acids for the better part of the day and eventually laying in pain and having my mother worried sick about my constant vomiting and inability to eat more than that one meal for the whole week, I was caressed into thinking the hospital may be a good option even though I thought I had already known what they were going to say. Instead of going to the hospital five minutes away I went to a different yet much nicer one in yorbalinda-placentia. Walking in at 8pm on a sunday night and being the only one in the nice smelling high quality furnished waiting room was an unexpected surprise. After five minutes i was greeted by a nurse and welcomed into the back. Did all the vitals and etc..told them of my past opiate use and also my participation in a nearby methadone maintenance program for heroin addiction and currently 10months clean. Walking into the back I saw the doctor who remembered me from the only other time I had been there for an unrelated arm injury. He was a very nice man whom had very good people skills and read all the symptoms. With a quick glance and a smile he asked if I was a chronic marijuana user. Ofcourse I said..yes. He also admitting to using marijuana all threeyears of highschool in newzealand he proceeded to bring up his hands and wave them over my abdomen said "wallah I've cured you!" "You have a condition called Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome" or CHS, it is growing more common as marijuana become more readily available and consumed. He printed out a wiki articles and wrote a prescription for promethazine, other than that he said there was nothing he could do, it was all up to me stopping usage. Although devastated that the holy substance I had been using to treat the horrid symptoms were the cause, I was grinning with relief that finally someone could tell me something that would completely cure and not just alleviate. Last night I had vomited a few times but woke up midday feeling a bit better after a long nights rest. Currently today at 6pm I am returning to my self but am worried that growing confidence will cause me to relapse on cannabis or hashoil (wax). In other words, I may not be the best writer nor give the best sentence structure or analysis but I beg that you not simply disclose the original poster as "full of shit" or "using low quality contaminated substances". Although I can not say for certain everyone will experience any symptoms I can definitely say I have. This whole ordeal has offered a wake up call. Maybe my stomach will be less sensitive to foods and ill have the energy to lift again, it sucks the only cure is stopping completely...but I just happen to be one of those unlucky few in the percentage. Live and learn
chuck estevez
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funny how many 1 posters seem to show up and just happen to find this thread, Which had died BTW.
HeadBandPuffer
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Unless you have something constructive to contribute please don't waste the time of people looking to feel better.
A good friend of mine and I puff the same amounts, 1.5oz a month. We've both been to the ER multiple times after days of vomiting and feeling nauseous.
The worst episodes seem to follow fatty foods and then laying down right away, particularly flat so stomach acid hits your throat. Like puff, grind and crash. Next thing you know ... I'm in a scolding shower, then switching to freezing trying to shock my body out of the nausea. It works sometimes as long as I don't eat or drink anything until things calm. However that is rare cuz I'm usually dying of thirst. Unfortunately that leads to the ER. BE STRONG!
Im pretty sure though that these episodes can be caused by a mixture of the following in one way or another: excess chronic bong hits (rough on throat), fatty foods then sleep right after (especially 2-3 days in a row), massive stress - worrying about things you should be doing but are not or things out of your control, too many cigs, sluggish digestion (probably due to effect on thalamus - which could also be why hot showers feel so good, it effects our temperature regulation too), and probably others mentioned earlier.
My buddy I mentioned above quit smoking entirely for 1 year but still had some attacks... He thinks it's purely stress and diet. I think that's possible but not sure.
Here is what I do that works:
1) no food 3-4 hours before bed.
2) unfortunately... For me it takes almost 2mg but Xanax can completely alleviate all of it if I catch it early but sometimes that calms me down so well I want to eat, which starts the vicious cycle.
3) if i wake up nauseous but I'm not too bad... Scolding to freezing and back and forth showers can shock the feeling away but beware of pneumonia and the thirst and keep your stomach dry.
4) the ER cocktail cure= Zofran, Protonix and 2-3mg of Dilaudid (strong pain killer). After this I fall asleep and wake up completely fine. If you can convince the ER to give you this cocktail, you'll be home in a few hours feeling great. I do need to maintain a bland low fat diet for a day at least or it will return.
All in all, moderation and self control seem to be the answer.
Good luck!
jimmyjamusa
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You guys are just stoopid!!!!!
After reading all the posts from these people, there are at least four different writing styles... If you were as smart as you claim to be, you'd see the vastly different writing styles!.... Everyone uses language differently.... You guys just use it on a more base level than I or some of the other posters... It's not your fault... I blame the culture and education system...
By the way, I fell off the wagon and started taking rips of a non-enhanced grow.... Symptoms returned full force.... Bummer...
After reading all the posts from these people, there are at least four different writing styles... If you were as smart as you claim to be, you'd see the vastly different writing styles!.... Everyone uses language differently.... You guys just use it on a more base level than I or some of the other posters... It's not your fault... I blame the culture and education system...
By the way, I fell off the wagon and started taking rips of a non-enhanced grow.... Symptoms returned full force.... Bummer...
jimmyjamusa
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Just to take the mystery out of your theory, Chuck, when you type Cannabinoid Hyperemisis into a google search, this thread is the first or second choice shown.... This thread is not nearly as obscure as you may think.
Just Another Puppet?
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Which is was brought me here tonight as I lay in a hospital bed looking for answers.
I am scheduled for an Endoscopy in the morning. In talking to the GI, she mentioned CHS and suggested I research it.
This is probably my 8th hospital stay for these symptoms dating back to 2005. And I also have had every test under the sun as well, and have missed many, many days of work and other things because I was curled up in a ball in pain.
I love to smoke pot, but tonight came to the realization that I need to stop.
Big thanks to the OP for starting this thread. And if I had not lived thru this so many times myself I would probably discount any credibility to the theory as well.
Not sure why I am in the small percentage of those that do suffer this, but at this point I am convinced that it is a real affliction, and not something dreamed up by anti-pot folks, or the medical establishment.
All of my instances have occurred after sustained use and have been over way too long a period of time and too many varied sources to be caused by mold or any other anomaly in the weed itself.
Like I said above, I love pot but it no longer loves me.
Sad, but I believe it is true.
And chuck, you are truly a tool.
HeartlandHank
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That's because you frequent RIU. If you had never been here it would prbly pop up with different results.
OrangeHaze
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What the OP describes sounds very similar to what people reported from smoking spice and synthetic CBDs. I have read of people having the issue after wrecking their CBD receptors on spice, then when switching to MJ and finding their receptors are pretty much burned out. I've never heard of it occurring with just MJ use.
When I was younger I would go through 2 oz or more a month and I NEVER had this problem. I don't smoke that much currently though so, I can't really give a comparison from a recent standpoint. It is possible to damage your receptors, but it's questionable that it could happen from MJ alone.
When I was younger I would go through 2 oz or more a month and I NEVER had this problem. I don't smoke that much currently though so, I can't really give a comparison from a recent standpoint. It is possible to damage your receptors, but it's questionable that it could happen from MJ alone.
I have been diagnosed with the Cannabanoid Hyperemisis and am not sure if it's just an easy answer for my gastroenterologist or if I legitimately have developed this "allergy". I have smoked marijuana on and off for about 15 years and typically have used it in cases where I was actually neaseas and it has improved my symptoms. However, recently I had a hysterectomy and literally since the day I had my surgery I have vomitted profusely, to the point of hospitalization. I had a regular form of hyperemisis during both pregnancies where I was hospitalized and even had to be given a Picc line in order to have 1200 calories, TPN, Lipids, and medication administered. I did not smoke during these periods but still continued to have the same symptoms. I live in a very conservative red state and am unsure if the doctors are just frustrated because they can't figure it out and they are blaming it on my "drug use" or if I am really spontaneously "allergic to chronic". I've never smoked spice, or K2 or any of that ridiculousness and only smoke KB. I've just started researching this ailment and of course am not smoking any longer. As much as I love Chronic, its does not love me back anymore. I am still currently sick but it has only been about 30 days. Do you know how long the symptoms would continue once usage has stopped? It's all very confusing because its so spontaneous and out of the blue. I am having a gastroparesis study done in two weeks. I'm hoping to have more information after that. But any advice you could offer would be appreciated. It makes me sad because as crazy as its sounds smoking has helped my asthma when its at its worst, my cyclical vomitting had improved in the past with it and now I'm just left with all these questions and all these symptoms that are still lingering. Its so frustrating!
qwizoking
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Thc levels should have dropped enough for you to pass a drug test long ago. Down receptors have come back and your body should be back to its normal state. If symptoms don't improve drastically within 2 weeks I would go back to the doc as its not chs...in any case, wish you luck
First of all I would like to introduce myself, as this is my first post ever on this website. I found this website after doing some research on my reoccurring nausea, and I googled the term cannabinoid hyperemisis. I would just like to point out, that aside from the surprising fact that my first time searching this term after typing "cannabinoid" the full search of cannabinoid hyperemisis was suggested third on the list...showing the popularity of the subject, most likely from those suffering the symptoms. Also, this forum was the second choice provided for the search. So if people think this is an obscure topic...reality hurts.
I would just like to add my voice to those who believe they have this condition. I am 21 and have smoked heavily for almost 4 years now, and the last few years I have had episodes of stomach upset, onset of extreme nausea and inability to eat or be around food for days at a time, most of the nausea usually occurring in the morning although with my current discomforts occurring later at night. This seems to be happening a few times a year, most noticeably after a prolonged period of heavy use like 2g a day (I'm female, 115 pounds, 5' 8") followed by a period of significantly reduced usage. At first we thought it might be food sensitivities...but I knew that every time I was forced to reduce my smoking pattern this condition always came around...I know this isn't psychological, I enjoy my sober mind state as much as the next person...anyways, this condition should be at least on the minds of every user. Even if you don't believe in it, do you seriously believe that a drug we have had such little opportunity to understand could truly have no serious negative effects? Eventually, science will find one. Anyone who believes different, good luck.
kawaiimomo
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Crazy to read so much posters bashing the OP just because it doesn't happen to them. Mates, everyone in this forum is a ganja lover, and nobody is sadder about not being able to smoke than the people who suffer this shitty syndrome.
I am 34 male. Smoking very occasionally for the last 2 years although I was smoking heavily and daily for the previous 15 years (hashish and ganja, around 10 or more very loaded joints daily).
Somewhere around my last 2 years of daily use I started suffering recurrent vomiting. The first time I thought it was because drinking because I drank a lot the night before, I kept puking for 8 hours non stop. I ended up in urgent care in the hospital with very low level of potassium and sodium due to the vomiting. 3 months later, without drinking this time, same thing happened, this time for 6 hours. Some 3-4 months later, same. But this time I didn't go to the hospital, just keep drinking (and throwing out) serum to keep my Na and K levels.
I finally went to a doctor who diagnosed me with cannabinoid hyperemesis. I didn't stop smoking as it has always been my biggest pleasure and hobby
Vomiting kept coming at a rate of 3-4 times per year. 2 years ago I moved to South East Asia and practically stopped smoking due to the severe laws here, no episodes since. Yes, the study is yet premature, but I would think there's some kind of relationship between ganja and these crazy vomiting.
In my case, as an anxiety sufferer for many years, those episodes set my anxiety to sky high levels. Taking sublingual medication to stop it did nothing. When I was vomiting I first emptied my stomach, then keep puking for hours just throwing bile while sweating like crazy. This only happened in the morning the first time it occurred, all the other times it was in the afternoon. I must add that I think this always happened in stress periods. At first I thought the food didn't set well in the stomach due to stress, but when that is the case you just throw out the food and that's all. The main symptom is you keep puking for hours and nothing can stop it (actually intravenous Primperan [metoclopramide] seemed to stop it, but you just can't inject it by yourself, specially on that state). As in the OP case, I thought it would be better to die when I was in the middle of an episode, you should consider yourselves lucky it doesn't happen to you, but don't bash people who are exposing a real problem.
I am 34 male. Smoking very occasionally for the last 2 years although I was smoking heavily and daily for the previous 15 years (hashish and ganja, around 10 or more very loaded joints daily).
Somewhere around my last 2 years of daily use I started suffering recurrent vomiting. The first time I thought it was because drinking because I drank a lot the night before, I kept puking for 8 hours non stop. I ended up in urgent care in the hospital with very low level of potassium and sodium due to the vomiting. 3 months later, without drinking this time, same thing happened, this time for 6 hours. Some 3-4 months later, same. But this time I didn't go to the hospital, just keep drinking (and throwing out) serum to keep my Na and K levels.
I finally went to a doctor who diagnosed me with cannabinoid hyperemesis. I didn't stop smoking as it has always been my biggest pleasure and hobby
Vomiting kept coming at a rate of 3-4 times per year. 2 years ago I moved to South East Asia and practically stopped smoking due to the severe laws here, no episodes since. Yes, the study is yet premature, but I would think there's some kind of relationship between ganja and these crazy vomiting.In my case, as an anxiety sufferer for many years, those episodes set my anxiety to sky high levels. Taking sublingual medication to stop it did nothing. When I was vomiting I first emptied my stomach, then keep puking for hours just throwing bile while sweating like crazy. This only happened in the morning the first time it occurred, all the other times it was in the afternoon. I must add that I think this always happened in stress periods. At first I thought the food didn't set well in the stomach due to stress, but when that is the case you just throw out the food and that's all. The main symptom is you keep puking for hours and nothing can stop it (actually intravenous Primperan [metoclopramide] seemed to stop it, but you just can't inject it by yourself, specially on that state). As in the OP case, I thought it would be better to die when I was in the middle of an episode, you should consider yourselves lucky it doesn't happen to you, but don't bash people who are exposing a real problem.
hello everyone, ive been suffering with all the same symptoms and been devistated sense i found out this is what it is that i have because im a heavy user and love to dab. i was really hoping the op or someone on here could dell me after i detox if there is any way to start again occasionally or even just dab occasionally because as most of you probably feel the same it was a big part of my lifestyle more than just getting high. i love all the glass work and all the above so if anyone has any suggestions or methods they used please let me know and inform me. like you all said I've had morning sickness for a fiew years and just over the past couple weeks i had 2 hospital visits and every test ct scan and everything under the sun came back negative and luckily my doctor was smart enough to point it out because he has seen it many other times working in the er. I'm glad i found out before it not to the next level but as i said it so so so hard to picture never using again. thanks everyone i'd love to hear what you have to say.
How are you doing with the CHS? Hope you are feeling good.
Is there a certain amount or frequency you can smoke without vomiting?
I'm 55, have smoked since I was about 14, and have been having episodes of "intractable vomiting" as the docs call it for many years. I love pot, believe there are plenty of good medical uses, but realize that too much of a good thing may become a bad thing.
I'd like to learn more about it and see if there is a minimum/maximum level that does not cause puking.
I can't count the number of times I've been to the ER for dehydration from days of puking. The docs re-hydrate me with two bags or fluids, give me IV Phenergen and IV pain killer to ease the stomach distress and send me home. Before I knew the appropriate protocol and had no idea what it was, I had upper GI, lower GI, CT scans of my belly, I even had my gall bladder removed in 2001 on an ER visit. I've had endoscopies, colonoscopies, flex-sigmoidoscopies, pretty much every test you can imagine.
Right now I am about 30 days without pot. I'm past the cravings and have had no stomach problems. My earlier symptoms during a bad episode match pretty much everything described here and in the medical journals, including the compulsive bathing for symptom relief.
It's obvious from the posts here that many people do not believe it is real. My gastro doc had never heard of CHS a few years ago, now he says it is a recognized syndrome. Countless tests came back normal except a stomach emptying test, which I had while an episode was just beginning.
I am a former newspaper editor and photojournalist, and I'm looking for real-life examples of people who have dealt with this, to eventually put together an article or even a book, not a medical journal just a layman's view of this whole thing.
I'd like to gather descriptions from other people who suffer from this. I will use only first name, city or state, and age.
If you'd like to email me about this, I created an email for this purpose, it is TimInVa (at) aol (dot) com.
If anyone has stories about cannabis hyperemesis syndrome I'd appreciate hearing them.
Many thanks and thanks for reading.
Tim in Virginia
Is there a certain amount or frequency you can smoke without vomiting?
I'm 55, have smoked since I was about 14, and have been having episodes of "intractable vomiting" as the docs call it for many years. I love pot, believe there are plenty of good medical uses, but realize that too much of a good thing may become a bad thing.
I'd like to learn more about it and see if there is a minimum/maximum level that does not cause puking.
I can't count the number of times I've been to the ER for dehydration from days of puking. The docs re-hydrate me with two bags or fluids, give me IV Phenergen and IV pain killer to ease the stomach distress and send me home. Before I knew the appropriate protocol and had no idea what it was, I had upper GI, lower GI, CT scans of my belly, I even had my gall bladder removed in 2001 on an ER visit. I've had endoscopies, colonoscopies, flex-sigmoidoscopies, pretty much every test you can imagine.
Right now I am about 30 days without pot. I'm past the cravings and have had no stomach problems. My earlier symptoms during a bad episode match pretty much everything described here and in the medical journals, including the compulsive bathing for symptom relief.
It's obvious from the posts here that many people do not believe it is real. My gastro doc had never heard of CHS a few years ago, now he says it is a recognized syndrome. Countless tests came back normal except a stomach emptying test, which I had while an episode was just beginning.
I am a former newspaper editor and photojournalist, and I'm looking for real-life examples of people who have dealt with this, to eventually put together an article or even a book, not a medical journal just a layman's view of this whole thing.
I'd like to gather descriptions from other people who suffer from this. I will use only first name, city or state, and age.
If you'd like to email me about this, I created an email for this purpose, it is TimInVa (at) aol (dot) com.
If anyone has stories about cannabis hyperemesis syndrome I'd appreciate hearing them.
Many thanks and thanks for reading.
Tim in Virginia
fir3dragon
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I think this guy is making new accounts for bullshit stories
I wrote the earlier post dated 9-8-2013 and just realized I wrote my contact email address incorrectly.
I'm a journalist, and I'd like to gather stories of people dealing with cannabis hyperemesis syndrome to eventually put together an article, not for a medical journal, just a layman's view of this whole thing.
It's fine to disagree and I understand many people do not believe this is a real syndrome. I'm not sure either, that's why I'm doing the research for this article.
I can say truthfully that I am the only person I know who has ever had anything like this. Most of my friends smoke pot and have never had this experience. Perhaps some people are prone to this while most are not. To make it clear: I love smoking pot, and if I can find a way to enjoy it without getting sick I most certainly will.
If you would like to share your experience, you can email me at TimInVirginia(at)aol(dot)com. I will only use first name (fake names are okay too), city or state, gender, and age.
I guess I should expect to get flamed, just understand that your comments may become part of my article.
Thanks, and be well.
Tim in Virginia
I'm a journalist, and I'd like to gather stories of people dealing with cannabis hyperemesis syndrome to eventually put together an article, not for a medical journal, just a layman's view of this whole thing.
It's fine to disagree and I understand many people do not believe this is a real syndrome. I'm not sure either, that's why I'm doing the research for this article.
I can say truthfully that I am the only person I know who has ever had anything like this. Most of my friends smoke pot and have never had this experience. Perhaps some people are prone to this while most are not. To make it clear: I love smoking pot, and if I can find a way to enjoy it without getting sick I most certainly will.
If you would like to share your experience, you can email me at TimInVirginia(at)aol(dot)com. I will only use first name (fake names are okay too), city or state, gender, and age.
I guess I should expect to get flamed, just understand that your comments may become part of my article.
Thanks, and be well.
Tim in Virginia
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