Cannabis Canada Daily: Do pot producer CEOs get high on their own supply?

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Some cannabis CEOs actually don’t use cannabis

Believe it or not, some CEOs in the cannabis industry have one surprising thing in common – they don’t consume the product their pushing. That’s the takeaway from a survey conducted by BNN Bloomberg of more than two dozen CEOs running some of the biggest cannabis firms in North America on whether they use cannabis recreationally or medically. The findings? More than half of the CEOs use cannabis, while some don’t and others declined to comment despite repeated assurances their responses will be kept anonymous. While some CEOs said they believe more work needs to be done to erase the stigma of cannabis usage, others also see the reticence in admitted cannabis use is tied to fears over potential troubles crossing the U.S.-Canada border.

A number of chief executives in the cannabis industry seem to have one surprising thing in common: They don’t like to get high on their own supply.

BNN Bloomberg conducted a survey of more than two dozen CEOs running U.S. and Canadian cannabis firms, ranging from some of Canada’s biggest pot companies to billion-dollar U.S. operators, to learn whether they actually use the product their pushing.

Of the 29 CEOs polled, 17 executives said they use cannabis recreationally or for medical purposes, while six said they did not use marijuana. Another six CEOs declined to comment despite repeated assurances their responses will be kept anonymous. All respondents were offered the cover of anonymity to prevent potential future legal issues, but were also given the opportunity to speak on-the-record to describe their personal usage.

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While the survey does not represent the total number of executives running pot producers throughout North America, it does show that a significant number of CEOs who run these cannabis firms are abstaining from the drug or are not willing to come clean with their views on usage.

“What I have come to understand is that cannabis consumers are an extremely diverse group,” said Sebastien St-Louis, chief executive of Quebec-based Hexo Corp., in an email interview with BNN Bloomberg. He said he uses cannabis recreationally on Friday nights to “cap off the week.”

“We have to move away from stereotypes and start recognizing that the responsible use of cannabis is part of many people’s lives – from young professionals to older adults,” St-Louis added.

Alison Gordon, chief executive of 48North Cannabis Corp., a Toronto-based producer, said being in the industry and not using cannabis is analogous to owning a smartphone but not knowing how to use a computer.

“A lot of these people who won’t go on the record talk about breaking down stigma. So where does that leave the industry?” she said in a phone interview. “In a way, it’s better for me to admit using cannabis because it demonstrates authenticity in our brand. I understand the product and I understand the consumer, where these people [that don’t use cannabis] don’t.”

Keith Merker, chief executive officer of Ontario-based WeedMD Inc., said in a phone interview that many cannabis executives are likely shy about their personal pot usage amid sensitivities on crossing the U.S.-Canada border. He declined to specify his personal cannabis usage given his concern about being allowed to enter the U.S. in the future.

The U.S. Customs and Border Protection stated last month that anyone working in the Canadian cannabis industry could be deemed inadmissible to the U.S., although the agency amended its comments later noting that Canadians who work in the pot sector and travel to the U.S. for reasons unrelated to marijuana would be allowed in the country.

Meanwhile, the Financial Post reported Tuesday that a Canadian investor travelling to Las Vegas was issued a lifetime entry ban to the United States, after disclosing to border officials that he was an investor in a Nevada marijuana grow facility.




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“We all love to go and travel to our wonderful neighbours to the south,” Merker said. “There’s an inherent risk when an executive claims to have used this product when they cross the border. It’s unfortunate, but it is what it is.”

Merker added that it should not be a requirement for cannabis producers to use their product, comparing it to running a pharmaceutical company and not ingesting the drugs that they produce. But Merker said that the industry does need to do “everything in our power to mitigate and erase the stigma” of a plant that’s been around for hundreds of years.

“It’s important for the leaders of this industry to take an honest and forthright approach to it,” Merker said. “It’s just going to take time.”

Brian Athaide, chief executive officer of The Green Organic Dutchman Holdings Ltd., said he doesn’t currently consume cannabis because he doesn’t like inhaling smoke, but is open to trying edibles and infused beverages when they are expected to become legal in Canada next October.

“This will soon become a mainstream product, so why wouldn’t you talk about it?” Athaide said in a phone interview. “If you’re not proud about it, how can you have the passion to be in this business?”

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CalyxCrusher

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Believe it or not, some CEOs in the cannabis industry have one surprising thing in common – they don’t consume the product their pushing
And that says it all. Imagine a vintner that made and sold wine without trying it? Or distiller that doesn't try their spirits? Or how about a chef who doesn't test their food before serving? If it sounds ridiculous that's because it is. How do you know if what you're making is good or not if you don't care enough to at least TRY it?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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i really think it depends on the person...a general doesn't fight in a battle, nor does he make every decision. a good general picks people who are good at their jobs, teaches them to work together, then let's them do their jobs, while he stands back and directs things from the larger perspective.
on a personal level, i wouldn't trust a person who runs a weed business and doesn't at least take an occasional sample.
on a business level, as long as they're picking good people and letting them do their jobs, getting the job done is what matters....
 

CalyxCrusher

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i really think it depends on the person...a general doesn't fight in a battle, nor does he make every decision. a good general picks people who are good at their jobs, teaches them to work together, then let's them do their jobs, while he stands back and directs things from the larger perspective.
on a personal level, i wouldn't trust a person who runs a weed business and doesn't at least take an occasional sample.
on a business level, as long as they're picking good people and letting them do their jobs, getting the job done is what matters....
No but a general has been through combat to get to his rank and has the combat experience to draw from to make successful choices and decisions. Can't teach people about something you have no experience in. I agree otherwise though.

As for picking people who are good at their job, how are you supposed to know what good is if youve never spent time in the trenches so to speak? The answer is clear as day in the LP products. They don't pick the best, well unless you're the best at growing ornamentals in university.... Having a degree in botany doesn't equate to being a superstar cannabis grower as LP management would like to have people believe. Proof is in the pudding. And that shits mouldy and irradiated.

Also as an aside it may not be the case today but many generals and other military leaders have fought in battle over the course of history
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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No but a general has been through combat to get to his rank and has the combat experience to draw from to make successful choices and decisions. Can't teach people about something you have no experience in. I agree otherwise though.

As for picking people who are good at their job, how are you supposed to know what good is if youve never spent time in the trenches so to speak? The answer is clear as day in the LP products. They don't pick the best, well unless you're the best at growing ornamentals in university.... Having a degree in botany doesn't equate to being a superstar cannabis grower as LP management would like to have people believe. Proof is in the pudding. And that shits mouldy and irradiated.
i see your point, but it's not quite the same. if i had to choose a person to run a commercial grow, and had one candidate that had grown a lot of good weed, and one who had run a large commercial greenhouse that produced flowers, i might be inclined to offer the job to the person who had run the greenhouse. he may not know about growing weed in particular, but he knows how to grow plants in general, the ins and outs of keeping a large hydro system running, knows how to deal with h.i.d. lighting on a large scale, knows greenhouse maintenance, light dep......all i'd have to teach him is the basics of weed growing.
if you picked the guy who grew a lot of good weed, you'd have to teach him everything the other candidate already knows....
 

CalyxCrusher

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i see your point, but it's not quite the same. if i had to choose a person to run a commercial grow, and had one candidate that had grown a lot of good weed, and one who had run a large commercial greenhouse that produced flowers, i might be inclined to offer the job to the person who had run the greenhouse. he may not know about growing weed in particular, but he knows how to grow plants in general, the ins and outs of keeping a large hydro system running, knows how to deal with h.i.d. lighting on a large scale, knows greenhouse maintenance, light dep......all i'd have to teach him is the basics of weed growing.
if you picked the guy who grew a lot of good weed, you'd have to teach him everything the other candidate already knows....
Ok so you've described a managerial or operations position. In your scenario you'd still need to hire experienced cannabis growers unless you enjoy being in the red a few years to learn yourself. Also if the manager you hired in said scenario knows nothing about cannabis as you stated then who is going to grow it? You're willing to wait while he works out all the kinks learning to grow cannabis on your investors dime? I doubt they would be.

Most people who have been growing 10+ years can easily and quickly adapt and learn greenhouse protocol and operating procedures. Far less time and money than teaching the operations manager or which ever title you choose. Hands on experience wins over unapplied knowledge.

This applies to many things in life, maybe the LPs will learn someday..
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Ok so you've described a managerial or operations position. In your scenario you'd still need to hire experienced cannabis growers unless you enjoy being in the red a few years to learn yourself. Also if the manager you hired in said scenario knows nothing about cannabis as you stated then who is going to grow it? You're willing to wait while he works out all the kinks learning to grow cannabis on investors dime? I doubt they would be.

Most people who have been growing 10+ years can easily and quickly adapt and learn greenhouse protocol and operating procedures. Far less time and money than teaching the operations manager or which ever title you choose. Hands on experience wins over unapplied knowledge.

This applies to many things in life, maybe the LPs will learn someday..
that's why i said ANC's scenario was perfect, hire both and have them work together, because you're going to have to teach either of them the other ones job....you cannot run a commercial facility without any experience at doing so, no matter how long you've run a grow room, and a commercial facility manager won't know the ins and outs of weed growing.
 

CalyxCrusher

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that's why i said ANC's scenario was perfect, hire both and have them work together, because you're going to have to teach either of them the other ones job....you cannot run a commercial facility without any experience at doing so, no matter how long you've run a grow room, and a commercial facility manager won't know the ins and outs of weed growing.
Agreed. I'm simply reinforcing my statement that if you're going to own a cannabis business it's in your best interest to know the product. Because if you don't how do you know wtf to look for not only in staffing but end product. We all know someone who swears they always have good weed and it turns out to be the nastiest ditch weed ever. Perspective is easier to gain through experience.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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my point was that generals are too valuable to fight....know why that guy stands out? because he's doing something that isn't done, usually. you don't take one of your most valuable resources and waste it fighting one on one. a General's job is to direct the battle, and watch his opponents, so he can formulate strategy to counter their movements. it's impossible to do that in combat.
Monclar wasn't a General in the traditional sense of the word. he was a soldier who was very good at what he did, and was intelligent enough to understand the organizational needs of an army. he was used as a symbol, and took leadership on the ground, but wasn't key to the planning process, and had no say at all over directing the troops once he was in the field, as he had no information about the overall battle at that point.
 

Big Perm

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Maybe cocaine is their thing?
The CEO is the business end of things, they're not growing the weed. That's what they hired the growers to do.
I'd say most CEO's don't have anything to do with their product. Does the CEO of Hyundai have one in their garage? Probably not. The CEO of Coke only drinks Coke products?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Maybe cocaine is their thing?
The CEO is the business end of things, they're not growing the weed. That's what they hired the growers to do.
I'd say most CEO's don't have anything to do with their product. Does the CEO of Hyundai have one in their garage? Probably not. The CEO of Coke only drinks Coke products?
probably not, but they sure as shit don't want to be seen doing it...a picture of James Quincey drinking a Pepsi wouldn't be good advertising....for Coke
 

MedicatedHiker

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my point was that generals are too valuable to fight....know why that guy stands out? because he's doing something that isn't done, usually. you don't take one of your most valuable resources and waste it fighting one on one. a General's job is to direct the battle, and watch his opponents, so he can formulate strategy to counter their movements. it's impossible to do that in combat.
Monclar wasn't a General in the traditional sense of the word. he was a soldier who was very good at what he did, and was intelligent enough to understand the organizational needs of an army. he was used as a symbol, and took leadership on the ground, but wasn't key to the planning process, and had no say at all over directing the troops once he was in the field, as he had no information about the overall battle at that point.
Sure.

I've explored some of the battlefields where he fought in Korea.

I can understand why he chose to do a bayonet charge at one point during one of the battles. It was necessary if they didn't want to be overrun. They could do it because they had the tactical advantage. They had set up defensive positions around a tiny hill overlooking a very flat terrain, a long distance from the mountains where Chinese snipers and machine guns had established positions. That and they were Legionnaires.
 
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