ginwilly
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Why do you have a cult leader and a fraud as your sig?And you read exactly zero pages of them.
http://molyneux-cult-watch.blogspot.com/
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Why do you have a cult leader and a fraud as your sig?And you read exactly zero pages of them.
The idea that you have done something successfully for the first time ever on this website is giving you delusions of grandeur but sadly, all you did was copy/paste half a wikipedia page that you didn't even read.
Just to please you sweetheart.Why do you have a cult leader and a fraud as your sig?
Thanks hon, but you have strange heroes.Just to please you sweetheart.
ThanksThanks hon, but you have strange heroes.
Seriously, do you realize what scum he is? By UB's standard, you support cults, fraud and theft just by quoting the man.
Any time man.Thanks
I'm glad you like it.Any time man.
Figured you didn't know what a phony psycho he was or you wouldn't use his quote as a signature.
So you're a liberal...Okay, so Marxism was more of a rambling justification of dictatorship. Capitalism without checks and balances is equally destructive. Why does it have to be a 'pure' system? Some goods aren't really amenable to distribution by a capitalist model, like health care. No one goes shopping for the best hospital care in the state when they've broken their arm; they just call an ambulance.
I'm of the opinion that 'libertarianism' as espoused by the John Birch society is socially destructive, as it would lead us straight to classism.
I think that our nation should place a heavier tax burden on those who make vast sums, and any contrary suggestion reflects simple greed and selfishness. A fifty percent tax on ALL income earned in excess of the first million every year would go a long way to redressing the imbalance that has steadily grown wider since the Reagan administration.
I would eliminate taxation inequality based on the source of the income; all income would be taxed the same whether it's capital gains or day labor.
Taxes earned on income between zero and the first million would be progressive. Everyone gets their first twenty grand tax free, zillionaires too.
I am more than a label. Some liberal ideas make sense to me, others don't. Same with conservative ideas. The problem isn't so much the ideas, it's how they're manipulated on the way to the polling booth that screws things up!So you're a liberal...
you and Toby sure are experts on what other people have and have not read.And you read exactly zero pages of them.
No kkkynes, this may come as a shock to you, but if you just read the books instead of swearing you did and quote mining and copy/pasting wikipedia, you might actually gain an understanding of what the guy was saying. Then you can really criticize him instead of looking like a complete moron.you and Toby sure are experts on what other people have and have not read.
i might think maybe you two work for the NSA, if i thought either of you knew what work was.
You expose yourself every time you comment on something it's blatantly obvious you're ignorant of. The list so far is socialism, communism, marxism, climate change, Keynesian economics, supply side economics, economics in general, racism, politics, science, religion, morality, ethics, cars, education and affordable medical careyou and Toby sure are experts on what other people have and have not read.
i might think maybe you two work for the NSA, if i thought either of you knew what work was.
no. marxism was a wooly headed utopian daydream with no functionality, and no utility as a "philosophy". it's vagueness on issues, it's absolute insistence of authority on ethical and moral rightness, the huge idiot appeal of it's message promising a grand paradise if you follow it's teachings and needlessly florid prose made it an excellent tool for some assholes who really want to be dictators, but dont want to have to share their authority with a church, as previous dictators were forced to.Okay, so Marxism was more of a rambling justification of dictatorship..
"checks and Balances is a slogan pertaining to the american political system, NOT economics. economic systems are controlled by regulation. economic systems controlled by "checks and balances" from government would be Socialist systems.Capitalism without checks and balances is equally destructive..
you would prefer a corrupt system? what makes you feel good isnt always the best choice. your PERSONAL preferences are not whats best for the entire country, and you cant always get what you think is "fair" thats why republics work, but democracies failWhy does it have to be a 'pure' system?.
"healthcare is not a "good" to be "delivered" thats just madison avenue sales bullshit. "healthcare" is a SERVICE performed by people, highly trained people, who paid for that training, and worked their asses off, they got college loans to pay.Some goods aren't really amenable to distribution by a capitalist model, like health care. .
thats true.No one goes shopping for the best hospital care in the state when they've broken their arm; they just call an ambulance..
and we dont have "classism" now? listen to any politician's speech, from either side of the aisle. odds are pretty good he will invoke "The Middle Class", and if he is a lefty he wil probably bring up "The 1%" or some such twaddle. "classes" exist only in opposition to other "classes" so we already have "classism".I'm of the opinion that 'libertarianism' as espoused by the John Birch society is socially destructive, as it would lead us straight to classism.
yes. it already does. whats 30% of $300k? now whats 30% of $4 million? wow. thats a much bigger number. hoiw "heavy" should the tax burden be? if you listen to some of the crazier lefties, 80-90%. which is effectively a Maximum Allowed Wealth Cap, not a tax. taxes are for gaining revenue, not punishing those who are successful, thats part of the constitution, lefties only care about the constitution when they can use it as a bludgeon though, so fuck that shit. lets talk reality.I think that our nation should place a heavier tax burden on those who make vast sums, .
and thats why lefties cant debate, they lay out their Feels Based Position, and any disagreement is heresy.and any contrary suggestion reflects simple greed and selfishness..
nope. it would simply result in new and clever ways to get paid without paying the usury tax.A fifty percent tax on ALL income earned in excess of the first million every year would go a long way to redressing the imbalance that has steadily grown wider since the Reagan administration..
and youll need billions of tax assessors peeking in through everybody's window to ensure theres no black market bartering goin on... good one Stalin.I would eliminate taxation inequality based on the source of the income; all income would be taxed the same whether it's capital gains or day labor..
you mean discriminatory...Taxes earned on income between zero and the first million would be progressive. .
ooo twenty grand for free. yay. obviously you have never made more than $20k.Everyone gets their first twenty grand tax free, zillionaires too.
It wasn't any kind of jab. I observed that you seem to opine that "capitalism can be made to work".I am more than a label. Some liberal ideas make sense to me, others don't. Same with conservative ideas. The problem isn't so much the ideas, it's how they're manipulated on the way to the polling booth that screws things up!
I think that Birchian philosophy is childish, greedy, selfish and destructive to society as a whole. That alone doesn't make me any more liberal than commenting on how badly it will hurt if one jumps off a cliff.
Just by name.It wasn't any kind of jab. I observed that you seem to opine that "capitalism can be made to work".
Are you familiar with Noam Chomsky?
if you read my previous posts on any subject you care to examine, you will see no "shouting down".@Dr Kynes that was an obviously well crafted and carefully versed response. Its length is breathtaking in its own right. I feel many of my statements were taken in ways not meant. On other points we're pretty much in agreement. By pure I meant purely capitalist vs purely socialist. Of course the system as it currently operates is stunningly corrupt, I'm just trying to find ways to remove abusive power from those who have taken it from the American People- no matter what the excuse. In any case, I'm already feeling a bit shouted down, so I'll let you have the floor.