Choosing a rosin press

This strain ambers. Lots of tops amber. Chopping this Saturday.

I see one nanner growing. Is it because its over ripe or stress from 61-67F and 30-35rh? I notice rh dropping, I think thats a sign of ripe I havent quite heard of before.

That along with losing stickiness and smell.

Is the search for a strain still on? Can you press weed with some seeds in it? Will it effect rosin? I did put plant through a rough ride but read it shouldnt herm this easy but then again there are light leaks.

I thought everything was coming together hopefully it is and this aint related to breeding.

Gonna have a lot to press next weekend. Its got a good amount of seeds in it, hopefully next time they wont. Hoping for 20-30gs rosin. Stay tuned for the show down!

10/10 recommend a bud trimmer, that only took an hr, 1.5 because I was looking hard for nanners and the seed ordeal made me stop to read about nanners and if this a bad strain to work with. Hopefully not.

As I keep looking into it Im reading more not to stress it, just worry about getting that sweet sweet 20% return at the press. Cant wait to weigh it, if its 5oz, my early chopped oz added to that would make 6oz in a 1.8x2.5’ canopy.

Next time will be two 2.5x2.5 foot canopy. One down side is idk how much seeds weigh and how much this technically weighs.

medidedicated said:

I dont think Ill ever do bubble unless return was higher than 25%. I just dont get why do that and then press that for even less yield. I tried hash rosin before, like no difference.

Maybe higher in thc a little? No way to tell from home made.

What I said about flower rosin I will add like now, doing smaller low temp dabs of a flavorful strain it doesnt stink at cold start and when disposing just in time it dont have bad flavor.

So I am pleased enough with things as is, its a different vaping experience but still a potent concentrate. I actually require less at a time to enjoy the best of it.

Plus I never pressed kief successfully and would freak out if I messed it up. Im a simple joe if my plan works out Ill probably never change it until I have to start over for whatever reason.

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Most of my flower presses between 20-30% (after years of growing & squishing). You’ll get there too. When i press my dry sift, i usually get 75-80% returns. Bubble is the same. I get all my dry sift off of my sugar leaf trim… which is why i stopped wet trimming. Fan leaves come off at harvest. The rest stay on until its dry. Then I can trim by using my gloved hands, catching it all in a trim bin (the best kief). Freezing it afterwards, i crunch it all up in the trim bin, shake it around (second best keif). Refreeze, sift again (eventually the kief starts getting too green. less trichome, more ground up plant material). This dry sift? It’s lots of extra rosin I wouldnt get otherwise. And returns are WAY higher than with flower. I find Bubble hash is too much trouble, unless you’re working in pounds, not ounces. I guess if you really want that blond rosin? Fresh frozen (live) bubble hash is how you make blond rosin. And with a handful of indoor plants? Nah. I dont bother washing until outdoor season.

Again, temp & what micron bag affects yeilds in a major way. And what temp works best for one strain? And what micron bag works best? Can totally vary by strain.

You havent said what bags you’re using, have you? The smaller micron gives you less yield, but with higher THC content. The larger micron give you larger yields, but it’s less potent. If yield is your primary goal? Use 190-220 micron press bags.

Happy squishing & keep up the good work!

medidedicated said:

This strain ambers. Lots of tops amber. Chopping this Saturday.

I see one nanner growing. Is it because its over ripe or stress from 61-67F and 30-35rh? I notice rh dropping, I think thats a sign of ripe I havent quite heard of before.

That along with losing stickiness and smell.

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Nanners typically mean stress, bad genetics or it’s over-ripe. If you havent had light leaks (stress) or any other substantial environmental changes? It might be past time. A jewelers loupe and some experience with the strain is the only way to be sure when ripe really is. Trichomes are the tell tale. But, as you’ve mentioned, some strains just dont, or barely, amber up.

bprestoner said:

Nanners typically mean stress, bad genetics or it’s over-ripe. If you havent had light leaks (stress) or any other substantial environmental changes? It might be past time. A jewelers loupe and some experience with the strain is the only way to be sure when ripe really is. Trichomes are the tell tale. But, as you’ve mentioned, some strains just dont, or barely, amber up.

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I use 90 micron due to RH being lower than 64%. The enviorment has a few things that were sub optimal, light stress on tops a little bit. Temps reaching 62F, 67F highs. Super low rh, not dropping the EC at ripe.

I got sick and heated the room to combat chills so it was like 87F in the tent for a couple days. Light leaks arent bad, a camera cannot pick up on the light coming in its that dark.

Heavy defoliation 2 weeks into flower because RH was climbing past 55RH. Let ph drift wildly from 5.5 to 6.3 without checking half the time just going off routine. It likely stayed in an ok range. Not calibrating ph meter.

Lots of mini fans blowing at the plant. Peaked in the tent for a second few different times during lights out. Pruning large branches off that fell over from lack of support (I later found I could prop them back up.)

Hoping one of these things are the culprit. I really love this strains rosin, tastes amazing and very potent. Yields great. I dont know about over ripe but it sat with 100% orange hairs for 2-2.5 weeks.

The seeds are full size so must of happened early around the time I defoliated and got sick, over heated tent. Will try the larger micron bags, thanks for the tips!

This strain yields low sugar leaf and the last strain only yielded a couple gs kief with half the trim and I think it was the sugariest leafs Ill ever work with anytime soon but junked the strain. Poor rosin taste. but thats a good point.

It could be that I didnt freeze it and sift it good enough, just a screen trim tray hit with a massage gun for few mins until impurities arised. Coarse pieces hand broken apart mildly.

My ph meter had to of been off by a bit around the time the first nanners had to of grown even if it was just .5 units. Surely it gave out just now because its reading 8.20 ph in 6.86ph solution. It gives me error mesg when calibrating so it cant calibrate.

I really, really hope that was the cause as I really like this strain. Also explains why I have some severe purple stems on veg plants aside from light being too much.

Will start using calibration solution every time as a habbit, I just dont want to spend too much on solution but if I must. Beats using drops, thats just me.

medidedicated said:

Is the search for a strain still on? Can you press weed with some seeds in it? Will it effect rosin? I did put plant through a rough ride but read it shouldnt herm this easy but then again there are light leaks.

I thought everything was coming together hopefully it is and this aint related to breeding.

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I'd deseed a set amount and press that...then press the same amount seeded. Never tried it. Would be interesting to hear what you find.
Personally...I'd probably take the time to just deseed it if it was important in my daily use.

I'm trying to work through using my Dulytek DW6000 to squish some bubble. I've squished a lot of buds with it...but it's one dimensional/up/down with no real adjustments so pressing hash may be a real learning experience. Haven't found any info on the Net so will probably just wing it and see WTF happens...LOL. Good luck with your run.

Would be a LOT faster if I did 4 pucks at once and was suggested I could but I would get more out of it just doing one at a time. So just feels like I bought a bigger platen than needed because idk what good its doing me.

I know its good for pressing hash but until I get a strain that also yields enough sugar leaf idk when I will make use of it. 40 presses vs 10. If I try it and get the same yield I wanted then I might try it out.

I dont want this part to be a pita unless it has to. It also changed to butter consistancy. So its not really shatter. Just a side note. Last time I did 5oz it was quite nerve racking how long it took. But Ill do it if I should.

Now that I got a bud trimmer, this is the biggest task of the whole grow. Only use 2 tons so I think I over sized things a bit but meh, itl pay itself quick.

So I tried 120 micron on the kongs krush that I could only yield 9% on and it sat in jar to cure for a month so pretty dry at that. It did cure though because it smelled alot different and better.

It yielded 15% from a eighth at 220F so thats cool. I hated the flavor over time with the last batch though but usually upping temps changes it better.

I through in some bone dry chemdog from before that was out side jars in bags. Yielded .17gs same way. So might keep kongs krush need to vape some of it. It didnt nanner. It yields a bit less flower though.

Thats why I called that watermelon my main strain so quick too bad its nannering. Hopefully it was my fault.

My watermelon ultra and kongs krush mothers. Neglected the KK as you can see, just moments away from junking it I said well lets press one last time. I dont smoke weed its just going bad. I vape hash only.

And wow are my lungs cleaner. Didnt realize my new habbit was actually healthier. Todays a nice day, I get to bag up the WU in a 2 gal bag and weigh it.

Just to keep replicable results I am repeating last time. Keep in bag with meter for 48 hrs and press, as a measure to not have crackling dabs nor lose yield. It may weigh a hair less at time of press.

So Im looking at this KK different, its 15%, it didnt nanner. The rosin at 220F tastes pretty ok. Going to remother it with a new clone in 4” floraflex pot. Bonsai mother it.

I cannot throw away when it meets most of my standards. I guess I can hunt very slowly so I dont have to toss any mothers too soon. For now, its just these two.

edit: I keep forgetting to mention I went from 1.2 tons to 1.8 like I did with the WU. Also from 50sec to 1.5 mins.

medidedicated said:

And wow are my lungs cleaner. Didnt realize my new habbit was actually healthier.

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Isn't it amazing? I bong bubble hash. No crunk in the lungs whatsoever. Smoke a joint...oh my...just crazy clogged up. I have a cleanable fitlter that's made for cigarettes and the amount of resin it takes out of one joint/keeps out of your lungs is insane. Made me completely rethink my approach.

Glad you found a good landing point/are happy with your effort. Fun stuff, for sure.

5.6oz plus another oz and 7.5gs chopped prior to this, same plant, thats just 4gs short of 7oz from this plant. But the seeds… Idk how much is seed weight..

I read that there aint any strain that wont hermie under enough stress. Hoping this ones the one but still need to see if I get 20% again rosin.

It yields notably more flower than the kongs krush. A few oz more, a qp just about.

glad you are finding some success with your efforts. I strongly encourage you not to give up on your pheno hunting unless you are “in love” with these plants. If yield is your primary concern then maybe it doesn’t matter. For me flavor and effects of the high are my primary determining factors in what plants I keep when pheno hunting.

I’ve ran lots of strains and always stress test my plants at some point while growing them. I’ve only had 2-3 strains that threw nanners over the years.

Minor light leaks don’t cause hermies either fyi, you need a significant amount of light that the plant is actually capable of using for photosynthesis in order to mess with the hormones.

Thundercat said:

glad you are finding some success with your efforts. I strongly encourage you not to give up on your pheno hunting unless you are “in love” with these plants. If yield is your primary concern then maybe it doesn’t matter. For me flavor and effects of the high are my primary determining factors in what plants I keep when pheno hunting.

I’ve ran lots of strains and always stress test my plants at some point while growing them. I’ve only had 2-3 strains that threw nanners over the years.

Minor light leaks don’t cause hermies either fyi, you need a significant amount of light that the plant is actually capable of using for photosynthesis in order to mess with the hormones.

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I cannot express enough how happy I am with the rosin, very tastey, potent and heavy yield. Easily the best home grown rosin ever to date. Im not trying to give up out of laziness I really do love the strain.

It just might very well give me a pound a harvest in the 2.5x5. Maybe 8oz in 2x4. Pressing if I get same results again and then again with a clone, I think Im running this for a while.

This strain if it keeps doing this well, heck even if it was slightly less than I thought.. Its taking me from starting out, passed the point of achiving goals to living the dream. Like 1.5-2gs rosin a day.

The days I dont go as hard on the dabrig Im literally just making snow angels in rosin..

Copy paste of what I thought might be the cause of nanners.

In short, possible cause: Heavy defol 2 weeks into flower, 20F increase in temp suddenly for few days, 1400ppfd in the center growing into the light. PH basically not being measured.

That is when the early pollination must of happened.

I have the other plant though as mentioned that does still achieve a lot of my goals with no visable nanners with same conditions. Will lose a chunk of yield and will be a budget yield vs all you can dab. Right in between.

Thats why I now say if it aint 15 percent it aint with me muh friend! Adds up quick.

dont mean to hijack the post or anything but you guys know what you are talking bout and I was hoping you could tell me what you think about this.
Presso pro
Is this a decent press for a beginner that just want to do a small amount per grow.

gooshpoo said:

dont mean to hijack the post or anything but you guys know what you are talking bout and I was hoping you could tell me what you think about this.
Presso pro
Is this a decent press for a beginner that just want to do a small amount per grow.

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Looks cool but it's only 1T pressure, which is way too little, and it's rather pricey as well.
I recommend looking for at least 4T. Alternatively use the hair straightener & quick clamp method if you're only squishing a wee bit every grow, and then go for a proper 10T press later if you develop a taste for it

Yea seems like using less tons watching people press they need to put a lot of strength into it where as my 12 ton I use just under 2 tons but its effortless. Just like one said earlier in the thread.

The gauge I think is important to have. I was just kinda complaining to myself that the plates or platen dont need to be super large for just flower.

I could do 4 pucks at once but lately I been squishing everything out the pucks judging by how it looks when I collect it.

So like one said Id make better use doing one at a time for max results so most my platen is empty. Would be good for large hash bars but not looking like Ill use it for that any time soon.

The weed is ready to press. Just wakin up gettin ready to work my ars off.