1. yea judeo-christian sounds better
OK. It's still less accurate.
2. i don't know anything about a clockmaster god but i was told in church that the Lord's powers are unlimited.
Which means that God could chose to place limits on how the divine interacts with the mundane, placing a heavier responsibility upon man to self govern, honor humanity and lovingly maintain the created world, rather then relying on God to sort it all out.
Tikkun olam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia -- in Judaism, this concept has been behind a big movement towards ecological good works and environmentalism.
Different flavors of Christianity also have different views of God's nature and how God interacts with humanity and the world, and Deism is one of them.
If you're interested in the clockmaker god concept or Deism:
The "clockmaker God:"
Watchmaker analogy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This is actually the philosophical underpinnings of the Intelligent Design theory, which isn't all that unappealing even to secularists if you drop the nonsense about denying evolution, and allow that the recorders of the Scripture simply might not have been able to perceive much a distinction between thousands of years and anything more.
Deism, more generally:
Deism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Deists typically reject supernatural events (prophecy, miracles) and tend to assert that God does not intervene with the affairs of human life and the laws of the universe. What organized religions see as
divine revelation and
holy books, most deists see as interpretations made by other humans, rather than as authoritative sources. Deists believe that God's greatest gift to humanity is not religion, but the ability to reason.
Deism became prominent in the 17th and 18th centuries during the
Age of Enlightenment, especially in
The United Kingdom, France, and
The United States of America, mostly among those raised as Christians who found they could not believe in either a
triune God, the
divinity of Jesus, miracles, or the
inerrancy of scriptures, but who did believe in
one God. Initially it did not form any congregations, but in time deism led to the development of other religious groups, particularly
the Unitarians. It continues to this day in the form of Classical Deism and Modern Deism.
OK, moving on....
3.no im not going to worship you, what i mean to say is jesus said he was the sun of god in the new testiment but if you read the old testiment that through adam and eve we are all god's children. so even if he wassent a direct son of god, he was still a son of god becase we all are.
Yes, although the understanding that we are all descendants of Adam hasn't kept believers from killing 'heathens' in the name of God, nor has knowledge that other followers of the One God are all (metaphorically) children of Abraham kept zelaots from slaughtering 'infidels' of other sects.
4.it dosen't matter who studies what. None of us where there so really we are all just guessing and going by things that were passed down from that time.
OK, let's never study anything we can't be sure of. Back to the Dark Ages, everyone!
5. im not mixing up anything, in fact i was trying to put the pieces back for the dude. he said theat the devil looked like a monster with red horns, well in the bible satan is a beautiful angel, i've even seen pictures in church of satan and they never looked liked that. now with dante's infurno, i was saying that he might of got that image form that book because Dante was one of the first to create a monstorus image of the fallen angel.
The story of Satan's fall--angels warring in heaven and whatnot-- comes mostly from Paradise Lost, as does the archetype of Lucifer Morningstar which seems to be the conception of the devil you think is 'authoritative.' According to Jewish scripture, Sa'tan was a minor angel and was not particularly important even after his fall from grace. The New Testament focuses on Satan as the generic figure of the Tempter and the Adversary. You seem to be describing the Miltonian expansion upon the Biblical sources which is perfectly normal because
Paradise Lost is deeply embedded in the Lutheran tradition and all of the forms of Protestantism that descended from it. There's nothing wrong with that, either! It was written by a deeply religious man for a religious audience.
6.it says right in the bible that things lived befor adam and eve. he made everything befor he created adam, so how could ppl not believe that?
It says he did it in a matter of days. Literal readers of the Bible take that to mean that everything in the fossil record that pre-dates the time frame given for Creation must have been Created that way for some reason and never have actually lived. Or, that they fossil record is somehow wrong and that man and prehistoric creatures co-existed until the Flood.
7. yes, it wouldnt matter to me what was the main religion , as long as they gave me the freedom to practice my own aswell.
I find that hard to swallow, but it's a very nice sentiment. I'll tell you that even as a non-observant Jew, it's a lot harder when the shoe is on the other foot. Things are pretty miserable in the US for Muslims right now, even though their religious rights are protected. Don't underestimate how being part of the rather devout majority can alter your perspective.
8. the revolutionary generation wanted the freedom to practice their own religion, as the pilgrims befor them. but this country was built on the belief in god and the right to be free. hence "in god we trust" and "under god". now im not saying the revolutionary war was like the crusades but a big spark in the hearts of the patriots was the belief in god.
That's true. But they wanted God out of politics itself.
9.no actually your wrong, every country-state has a major language and religion in which they practice. there might be other language and religions in that area, but if you took all the languages and religions and mate a pie graph, you would notice that there would be a language or religion that took up majority of the pie. every place has its own prevailing religion. in fact here is a chart to show you
Image:Worldreligion.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I said
official, not
main. We don't have an official state religion or language.
Languages of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The
United States does not have an
official language..........
English is spoken by ~82% of the US population. A 20% composition of linguistic minorities is significant.
Our religious demographics are even more diverse. And a 'major religion' is hardly a 'state religion.' Some coutries have very narrow religious splits--in a 45/55 split, is the religion with 55% percent the 'main' religion?
10. when i said "even" i wassn't emplying that I have more rights then he does i was tryin to say even someone who is a non believer has the same rights as everyone else.
Cool. But you just did it again. Don't say 'even'. What's wrong with:
"I was trying to say someone who is a non believer has the same rights as everyone else." That use of 'even' implies that you are 'willing to allow' their participation despite their 'lack.' Well, that's nice...I could say "even religious people have a right to vote." Does that sound very tolerant?
11. i don't know any christians like that, maybe somewhere up in Idaho somewhere but not here.
So, now you want to generalize about Christianity in a region not your own...
I understand that there are some real assholes in the world but no matter what the writter when through, he can't say that ALLchristains are bible waving maniacs. obveously be both have some angry passionate views on the topic and thats what always happends when you talk about religion in such a diverse space. He is entitled to his opinion, all im saying is he made a good point until he started ranting about why he dosen't believe that jesus was the sun of god.
I'm not trying to defend the article, I'm just trying to get you to examine your own thinking.
also i don't think you can debunk religion. and reguardless to what type of scientific statement you make on any religion, there will always be an arguing party. thats all
I agree completely. Trying to debunk religion misses the point entirely.
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