Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 44 27.5%

  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 42 26.3%

  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 74 46.3%
  • Total voters
    160
injinji

injinji

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CunningCanuk said:
A drying lake an hour from a major city born from the mob. I wonder what the odds are that more than a hundred barrels will be found?
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My memory is fucked. . . . But I once read a novel about the last days of Pompeii (by a guy who also wrote a novel about Cicero). The main character was a hydro engineer who worked on the aqueducts. There was a breakage leading into Rome and as the water was used in the storage tank, a body and lots of cash was found. Turned out the official who sold the water was taking bribes to open up new baths. A really good read. I hate that I can't remember shit anymore.

But a spoiler alert. Everything went boom at the end.
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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CunningCanuk said:
A drying lake an hour from a major city born from the mob. I wonder what the odds are that more than a hundred barrels will be found?
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Fuck the bodies, their dead.
What I'm waiting for is when the inlets feeding the generators that supply electricity to the entire state of Neveda,, fail due to them being above the water level.
Within 5 years
Time to go Nuclear, like right fucking now, or the effects will be catastrophic, and it will happen.
Hoping it won't happen is not going to work now.
It's inevitable, they will never be able to fill it again in a lifetime.
Oh well, shit happens, doesn't it?

 
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Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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injinji said:
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Three things stood out to me in that piece, one being that 70% of India's power generation, is dependent on coal for fuel
Another was the hope that the monsoons will cool things down.
Yup that they will, but with the amounts of rain destined to drop, we shall see how that works out
I think not that well.
And lastly the woman who stated that something must be done to at least curb the amount of Carbon released, or we are finished.

Meanwhile India & China are burning MORE fucking coal now than they ever had before.

And to stop them from doing so, is fucking impossible to do.

Maybe in 50 years it could be accomplished, but in less than 30?

Never happen

We're fucked
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Jimdamick said:
Three things stood out to me in that piece, one being that 70% of India's power generation, is dependent on coal for fuel
Another was the hope that the monsoons will cool things down.
Yup that they will, but with the amounts of rain destined to drop, we shall see how that works out
I think not that well.
And lastly the woman who stated that something must be done to at least curb the amount of Carbon released, or we are finished.

Meanwhile India & China are burning MORE fucking coal now than they ever had before.

And to stop them from doing so, is fucking impossible to do.

Maybe in 50 years it could be accomplished, but in less than 30?

Never happen

We're fucked
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nah, we're not fucked, humans are like cockroaches, leave two alive, and in a 100 years they'll over run the planet....
our "society" may be pretty fucked though. things are going to change. planned obsolescence will become a crime, things will be made to last, and as easily repairable as possible. no more packaging things in 7 layers of plastic and cardboard.
appliances will be as efficient as possible, with as few electronic components as possible. houses will be built that use grey water from showers and washing dishes to flush the toilets, that will be partially buried to withstand temperature extremes, that will require the use of solar panels to be allowed...
its just a matter of when, not if...when people no longer have the luxury to be idiots, because their idiocy will start to have material effects on others, then those others will force them to stop being idiots...or just force them to stop being...
 
CunningCanuk

CunningCanuk

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
nah, we're not fucked, humans are like cockroaches, leave two alive, and in a 100 years they'll over run the planet....
our "society" may be pretty fucked though. things are going to change. planned obsolescence will become a crime, things will be made to last, and as easily repairable as possible. no more packaging things in 7 layers of plastic and cardboard.
appliances will be as efficient as possible, with as few electronic components as possible. houses will be built that use grey water from showers and washing dishes to flush the toilets, that will be partially buried to withstand temperature extremes, that will require the use of solar panels to be allowed...
its just a matter of when, not if...when people no longer have the luxury to be idiots, because their idiocy will start to have material effects on others, then those others will force them to stop being idiots...or just force them to stop being...
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Interesting thoughts but I’m not convinced humans are exempt from mass extinction.
 
nuskool89

nuskool89

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
nah, we're not fucked, humans are like cockroaches, leave two alive, and in a 100 years they'll over run the planet....
our "society" may be pretty fucked though. things are going to change. planned obsolescence will become a crime, things will be made to last, and as easily repairable as possible. no more packaging things in 7 layers of plastic and cardboard.
appliances will be as efficient as possible, with as few electronic components as possible. houses will be built that use grey water from showers and washing dishes to flush the toilets, that will be partially buried to withstand temperature extremes, that will require the use of solar panels to be allowed...
its just a matter of when, not if...when people no longer have the luxury to be idiots, because their idiocy will start to have material effects on others, then those others will force them to stop being idiots...or just force them to stop being...
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Imagine if/when populations as big as China’s or India’s have a comparable percentage of their citizenry in a middle class that consumes/constructs/buys the kinds of things Europeans and Americans do.
 
CunningCanuk

CunningCanuk

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cannabineer said:
Mass extinction is a planetary phenomenon. Unless we seriously waste our opportunity, a hundred years from now we will not have just the one ecosphere but maybe half a dozen.
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There’s been a lot of changes in four and a half billion years and a lot of species have come and gone. I don’t believe the human species is any more exempt from extinction than the velociraptor species was.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
CunningCanuk said:
There’s been a lot of changes in four and a half billion years and a lot of species have come and gone. I don’t believe the human species is any more exempt from extinction than the velociraptor species was.
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Yeah but what I didn’t point out well is that right now is a time of big change in just those regards.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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CunningCanuk said:
There’s been a lot of changes in four and a half billion years and a lot of species have come and gone. I don’t believe the human species is any more exempt from extinction than the velociraptor species was.
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i do, we're semi rational beings, with much larger brains...if worse comes to worse, we let it get bad enough to kill all the fucking stupid people, then start cleaning up after they're gone...it will take much longer to clean things up that way, but if thats what has to be done, then we'll do it...unless we just start killing the stupid ones now...
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Roger A. Shrubber said:
i do, we're semi rational beings, with much larger brains...if worse comes to worse, we let it get bad enough to kill all the fucking stupid people, then start cleaning up after they're gone...it will take much longer to clean things up that way, but if thats what has to be done, then we'll do it...unless we just start killing the stupid ones now...
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Occam’s Chainsaw
 
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