Cloning a Triploid ?
- Thread starter gogsyc
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, I had an automazar triploid once, unfortunately it was stolen plus cloning an auto is a waste of time....so go for it...make sure to put up some pics during flowering....
Blunt Master Flex
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I read an article by DJ Short once that said pretty much all mutants he has grown were either sterile or damn near impossible to clone, pretty odd.
unohu69
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If your referring to the 3 blade leaf pattern abnormality, then Id say it wont necessarily matter. My GodBud is a 3 blade plant, but the clone i took from it is growing normal 5 blade leafs. Im not sure what even causes it in the first place, but it didnt carry over. this is just my experience so far. as it is the first i have had.
Blunt Master Flex
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In the article I read it said that most mutants he came across were some of the most potent plants he'd ever worked with. Not the plants with deformities, but true mutants.
bud nugbong
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yea i think its a very good idea. i had one and never got to keep the strain alive.
gogsyc
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how do u tell the difference?
jewgrow
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You don't...a mutation is a mutation. While some mutations occur at different levels (genome, chromosome, gene), each mutation in it self is different than the last. And as hard as it is to believe anything good can come from a mutation (statistics are completely on your side), that is the basis of the theory of evolution. Although I believe evolution is much less random than we think (adaptation). Either way, inducing mutation is actually a form of plant breeding widely practiced. Shoot the plants with some x-rays, or dip them in carcinogenic chemicals, and hope for the best. The only reason a mutated plant would be hard to clone is if something in the genotype was changed that directly effected the rooting process...which is hard to believe is linked with potency. Just my 2 cents...
Blunt Master Flex
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Like I said, it was in an article by DJ Short. I can only imagine that he knows what hes talking about from time to time.
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/6-breeders-support-information/8854-dj-short-general-irregularities-anomalies-cannabis-relating-transgressivesegregation-general-irregularities-anomalies-cannabis-relating-transgressive-segregation.html
Blunt Master Flex
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That's the article, he says usually less than 1% aren't sterile or can be cloned.
Blunt Master Flex
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No problem bud
jewgrow
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Yeah, he's talking about extremely deformed/mutated plants. Only makes sense that they'd be hard to clone/are sterile. Some mutations do effect the plant more than others (like I said, where the mutation occurs: chromosome, gene, etc.). I cannot recall which of these are more detrimental, but I'm sure a simple triploid will clone fine. Try it and see what happens...
Blunt Master Flex
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I beg to differ, I believe what he is saying is that the plants that you are refering to as being "extremely deformed/mutated" are not deformities at all but true mutations. And that the mere deformities will never cause any problems with breeding or cloning. He even says in the article "It is important to know the difference between a deformity and a mutation" so I don't understand how you can put them in the same category IE your "extremely deformed/mutated" comment. This would also mean that you can in fact tell the difference between deformed plants and mutant plants.
With that being said I don't know if a triploid would fall under being deformed or being a mutant.
With that being said I don't know if a triploid would fall under being deformed or being a mutant.
skunkpunk13
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i have a friend who has a triploid strain he made from cloning a tri ploid mother and seeding it then taking a male seed from the offspring that also showed triploid and the offspring of that were just about all triploid about 75% and the increased yield you get from a triploid if about 30%to 33%
robert 14617
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if i could get a bag of fem seeds that i knew were sterile shit id be in heaven that is what we should all be after
Blunt Master Flex
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I grew out a 10 pack of Grape Krush and ended up with a few that had the classic blue berry deformities, but I think I may have had one mutant. The first three are the classic blue berry deformity and the last three pics are of a possible mutant, I'm not really sure. It was still pretty small and had a bunch of weird stuff going on, it had one leave that was missing it's middle leaflet, another leave had conjoined leaflets and it had triple node thing going on at the top in these pics.
