Cloning from Fan Leaves

LightFusion

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read the thread before posting please.

there will be no pics...ever...give up

unless you would like to give me $10,000 to do the research and get the hormones needed
 

Blueberryyum

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HOLY PhUckING SHIT were all the way to page 42!!!! im just going to go rip a fan leaf off lay it flat down in a humidity cover and see what happens for myself
 

z4qqqbs

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ya im a beginner grower and that doesnt make sense to me either how would it grow then? i mean ok no question is a bad question but i dont thing it would either
 

LightFusion

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wow. really children. i got bad rep for trying to defend everyone. so im out of this thread forever to let the 13 year old's fight about a retarded issue that shouldn't be an issue. omfg
 

KP2

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it can be done, but not easily, and generally only in a lab. tissue culture/micro culture is a technique used for other plants, and doesn't really have a practical application for our needs.

hope this helps everyone cool down. you're not going to see any pictures of proof unless someone is doing this in a lab.
 

ONEeyedWILLY444

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or he doesn't have a cam? i sure as hell wouldn't run out and buy one just to post pics to please the assholes that have posted on this thread....
i see what your saying, but if i said something and got loads of negative reactions as a reply then i would find a way too get a pic and prove everyone wrong whilst also educating them in the process. if you can do something that no one else can then would,nt you want to share that with everyone? and if not why start a thread about it.
all this said i call bullshit

show me a pic and i will give you all my crop and growing kit and vow to never grow again
 

MuaySmoke

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I can't believe people are still trying this. All the people before that it never worked for had no clue what they were doing? Give it up.

You know, if you could clone a $10 bill by cutting off the corner. If you keep the temp and humidity right, you'll have a dime tree in no time. I did it, but don't have a camera right now. I'll post up some pics when I get one.

SHeesH
 

Syriuslydelyrius

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Some, but not all, plants can be propagated from just a leaf or a section of a leaf. Leaf cuttings of most plants will not generate a new plant, they usually produce only a few roots or just decay. Because leaf cuttings do not include an axillary bud, they can be used only for plants that are capable of forming adventitious buds. Leaf cuttings are used almost exclusively for propagating some indoor plants. There are several types of leaf cuttings. Leaf Cuttings, Leaf-petiole, Leaf without a petiole, Split-vein, Leaf-bud Cuttings, and Cane Cuttings.

Allright that being said. if your cutting doesnt contain axillary bud (or in other terms a cutting with a node or multiple nodes) the plant species must be capable of forming adventitious buds and sadly hemp/weed does not! Now lets explain this further. The genetics of a plant is in simple terms is a recipe the plant follows as it grows. Now in a plant that can form adventitious buds it can do this because all the cells of the plant have access to the recipes for roots,leafs,steams and everything else. Where as the majority of other plants parts know what and how there supposed to grow without "knowing" the recipe for the entire plant.

If this worked for weed even just a little bit then these and every other weed forum would be loaded with photos from all over the world showing single leaves growing into plants and no one would be baking or making hash with leaf either. I am even begining to feel its been a waste of time to explain what I have anyways. Cause even if by some miricle of nature this worked you have gained nothing. It will take more time and energy to root out and grow than a normal clipping would because steams and roots take much energy for the plant to produce and a properly taken clipping has a much much bigger head start on steam structure.

Where is this guy growing anyways if he even is? I mean I have a very small space now but even back when I had the whole 2nd floor I still found myself spending loads of time cutting and triming to best suit the space and I have thrown away more clippings than I could possibly ever root without stressing the mothers if much at all.
 

born2killspam

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I'll give +rep for concise general info.. But what do you know about plant cell redifferentiation??
This is the first time I haven't regretted loading this page in a while..:)
 

Syriuslydelyrius

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I'll give +rep for concise general info.. But what do you know about plant cell redifferentiation??
This is the first time I haven't regretted loading this page in a while..:)

I am not sure exactly what your looking for here. Is this just a general "what do hell do you know!" comment as I did sort of abstractly refer to cellular differentiation in laymans terms? Or are you looking for a deffinition and or my knowlege as to how it relates to the forums subject?

Ehhh whatever reguardless of reasons I will do my best to try to continue add whatever intilect i can to the discussion. I have a nice buzz going and I dont mind at all.

Cellular differentiation by definition is is the process by which a less specialized cell becomes a more specialized cell type. Which my previous post sort of touched on in laymans terms by talking about cells knowing the "recipe" of the rest of the plant. In more simple terms its the ability for other cells to change into differant ones in order to "regenerate" a wound. Also yes cellular deferentiation is the reason some lizzard spices and others are able to regrow a lost appendage. How this all works can be comlicated and though I do have a basic understanding I will be the first to admit that some of this gets over my head. If you would like to gain some knowledge in it here is an article. http://cmsprod.bgu.ac.il/NR/rdonlyres/20B1213D-3A7B-4581-B3E3-FB4899E6E2C4/29916/7.pdf

Ok so now lets talk about cellular differentiation in weed. Yes the fact that you are able to encourage a cutting to "take root" proves that the cells that were encouraged to do so differentiate into root cells. This however doesnt mean that its possible to clone from just a fan leaf. Because not all cells in many orginizms are pluripotent. Pluripotent cells being cells that are able to differentiate into differant or more complex cells. An example of a pluripotent cell would be a human stem cell and there is still a vast amount for the world to learn about pluripotent cells. Now I can assure you that on weed if your clipping does not have atleast 1 axillary bud it wont contain the proper cells to regenerate into completly new plant. Why this is this way for weed and many other plants yet there are other plants that cells in just a portion of the leaf are pluripotent enough to regenerate a complete or even a multitude of plants? Well like I said before the world has a lot to learn here yet and much of these cell genotypes are still a mistery left for all of mankind to figure out.
 
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