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ZEN MASTER

ZEN MASTER

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DST said:
My girl....one of Thelma's daughter from seed...I sat and stared at her for some time tonight....was nearly late for me tea, lol



She's been in flower for about 3 1/2 - 4 weeks I think, keep meaning to check my diary.

DST
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hey what up D, nice looking buds. gotta lot of frost on 'em already. hey look here though, i was wondering what kind of camera do you, and everyone else, use for your pics that you post. all i have is my camera phone, which i cant get real close with. reason #1 is if i get too close the rays from the lights disrupt the picture quality on the phone, and #2 if i am able to get in close, it's blurry. im just sitting here wishing that i could post some close up shots of my buds, because the pic i just posted was kinda far away, and the detail really couldnt be seen, plus i wanted to show the crystal build up on the plant that isnt getting the BloomBastic vs. the one that is, plus i just want to show some of my work. be easy bro!


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 
marijuananation

marijuananation

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DST said:
Been meaning to check out one of the links on your sig which says VERTICAL COOL TUBE. Which I just have :)

Looks like you are doing everything right so I am not sure but here's a couple of things I noticed.

1/ Looks like you have something munching your clones or plants later on. I think it could be thrips I am not sure, perhaps you have already dealt with that (I just skimmed your thread) Reason I say that is I thought I could see white lines in your leaves, small squiggly ones, which is basically where the thrip has eaten from the underside of your leaves (the chlorophylls) It doesn't kill the plant generally, it just means there is not as much material to photosynthesis and as such make energy for the plants to grow. I have been fighting the same problem for a while. I ended up getting a not very friendly spray from Bayer. You can also use Diatomacious Earth, which are ancient diatomes and dangerous to the insects exoskeleton. check it out on google. a fellow RIU'er (Hayduke) put me onto that. These little fuckers are almost impossible to see, and they generally lurk under the leaves. When they get bigger they can really move as well!!!
2/ I would possibly try and raise the plants a bit now they are vertical, not sure it was kinda hard to tell with the angle of the photo. Just make sure the whole plant is exposed, top to bottom, and get them babies as close as you can. On the cool tube you will notice the lower part near the fitting is really cold, just let the plant get right up in there bru.

your pics looks great, and nice videos as well. I think whodat put it right, a lot of strains can be low yielders, most of the og kush is very limited in yield imo for example. I sturggle to get 2OZ of giant plants that would normally produce 2 or 3x that.....

peace, DST
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Dst,
I had mites.. the little pests have since been put in check.
I have not even seen any gnats or thrips or any other pests to be honest with you since I switched from dwc to soil..
But the spider mites sure did do a number on my foliage.. (little bastards)

The white lines are most likely hairs from my cat.. he loves to go into "his" sun room... lol

Thanks Bro.
 
DST

DST

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I use my wifes Canon D1000...I think. Most phones dont pull off great picsa unless your lights are off. There is not much issue taking a pic now and then when the light of imo.
ZEN MASTER said:
hey what up D, nice looking buds. gotta lot of frost on 'em already. hey look here though, i was wondering what kind of camera do you, and everyone else, use for your pics that you post. all i have is my camera phone, which i cant get real close with. reason #1 is if i get too close the rays from the lights disrupt the picture quality on the phone, and #2 if i am able to get in close, it's blurry. im just sitting here wishing that i could post some close up shots of my buds, because the pic i just posted was kinda far away, and the detail really couldnt be seen, plus i wanted to show the crystal build up on the plant that isnt getting the BloomBastic vs. the one that is, plus i just want to show some of my work. be easy bro!


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
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marijuananation said:
Dst,
I also plan on raising the plants up on stairs.. kind of a stadium effect.. what are your opinions on this..
cheers.
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This is how I had my plants with my first set up, with one bubl. Its the way to go to get more in there bru.

DST
 
Heads Up

Heads Up

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DST, with a vertical grow how do you keep the plants from bushing out, or do you? Do you have to keep rotating your containers so the plants receive light on all sides? I'm still not convinced vertical is more efficient than a scrog. I should know, I'm the expert, I haven't done either method. Since it will cost me nothing but a few dollars to do a scrog, that's what I'll attempt before I even start to seriously contemplate going vertical, that would start to cost some dollars. As for yields, I'm happy, well not happy, but happy to hear you say you struggle to get two ounces from a kush, I got forty five grams and that's from a kush skunk cross. I'm curious to see what 'the og18' will yield. I started twelve clones last sunday, noon. Six headband x cali-o and six 'the og18', all have survived my attempt at cloning to this point, I even see the start of roots, barely. Fourteen clones actually, the two tops are in rapid rooters with a rooting powder, they are in the tent with mom and doing very nicely. I'm thinking I might just get me more rapid rooters and use the tent for both mom and daughters, they seem to like it in there. In another week or so I'll be taking more cuttings and then putting the moms to rest. I don't think I'm going to flower them. With more thought and more seeds, I've decided not to grow the same two strains all through the cool season and I want some sativa. You hear me Casey Jones?
 
Dezracer

Dezracer

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DST said:
not sure if you caught my post above MN re your grow. I checked your journal out but posted here since you asked for advise. its up there^^^
lol

Looks great to me, perhaps you could train the bud thats to close away, if you put some stress on the branch below the bud will stay a bit further away, but will probably just grow back so you need to kinda do it every day or so...I have been doing it with some of my vines, lol.
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The two ladies are looking pretty sorry I think but thank you.
I think the buds are looking really nice but the rest of the plant looks bad to me. Colas are heavy for their size so I think they're pretty dense. I only know because I have to have them tied up so they don't fall over and snap the stem. They both looked pretty good right up until the last feeding before I started giving plain water with Agave Organic Sweetener in it (just over a week ago). I've given them plain water with the Agave twice now and will continue until they're ready to chop.

Your plants look beautiful, nice dark green color you got there.
 
ZEN MASTER

ZEN MASTER

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DST said:
I use my wifes Canon D1000...I think. Most phones dont pull off great picsa unless your lights are off. There is not much issue taking a pic now and then when the light of imo.

ok, ok. how do you think a 10 or 12 mega pixel camera would do under those lights? any other advice is more than welcome.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
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curious old fart

curious old fart

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ZEN MASTER said:
DST said:
I use my wifes Canon D1000...I think. Most phones dont pull off great picsa unless your lights are off. There is not much issue taking a pic now and then when the light of imo.

ok, ok. how do you think a 10 or 12 mega pixel camera would do under those lights? any other advice is more than welcome.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
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I use a 9.2 kodak from wally world with crop feature in edit.
It doesn't have to be an expensive camera to get good pics.

:peace:
cof
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DST

DST

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Ok, before I answer the first few questions I'll go right to the point about you not being convinced its more efficient than a scrog. That not really the point my bru. It's not a case of, A light will give bigger and better bud if is hung vertical or horizontal, it won't, it's about how many lumens you have, and how much canopy space you have. I would love for my wife to say, just use a spare room to do your thing in, but unfortunately I have a small cupboard outside, but she tollerates my not see kosha hobby. Anyway, I digress, the vertical is a way for me to use my space to its potential. I also have a scrog, it's just that my light shines across the surface of the scrog. i also have a vertical light.....
So if you look at it that way Heads Up, you can stop worrying about if a vertical grow is more efficient that a scrog, the vertical is just a way for me to increase my canopy space.
My plants tend to grow up the way, they are limited by the space in the cupboard behind, and when you grow vertical you plant generally grows in the direction of the light.
I do often move and rotate my containers to accomodate growth and to keep buds from basically committing suicide by growing right into a light. You do need to keep your peepers on it. However, It would be quite simple for me to hook up a net round the light to prevent this should that situation arise. At the moment everyhting is just going upwards.
I think if I had your space HeadsUp i would just probably grow normally. It's easier to get to your plants, I crawl around on the floor, watering under canopies, balancing jugs of water/feed....it's all part of the tlc though.


Heads Up said:
DST, with a vertical grow how do you keep the plants from bushing out, or do you? Do you have to keep rotating your containers so the plants receive light on all sides? I'm still not convinced vertical is more efficient than a scrog. I should know, I'm the expert, I haven't done either method. Since it will cost me nothing but a few dollars to do a scrog, that's what I'll attempt before I even start to seriously contemplate going vertical, that would start to cost some dollars. As for yields, I'm happy, well not happy, but happy to hear you say you struggle to get two ounces from a kush, I got forty five grams and that's from a kush skunk cross. I'm curious to see what 'the og18' will yield. I started twelve clones last sunday, noon. Six headband x cali-o and six 'the og18', all have survived my attempt at cloning to this point, I even see the start of roots, barely. Fourteen clones actually, the two tops are in rapid rooters with a rooting powder, they are in the tent with mom and doing very nicely. I'm thinking I might just get me more rapid rooters and use the tent for both mom and daughters, they seem to like it in there. In another week or so I'll be taking more cuttings and then putting the moms to rest. I don't think I'm going to flower them. With more thought and more seeds, I've decided not to grow the same two strains all through the cool season and I want some sativa. You hear me Casey Jones?
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Dezracer said:
The two ladies are looking pretty sorry I think but thank you.
I think the buds are looking really nice but the rest of the plant looks bad to me. Colas are heavy for their size so I think they're pretty dense. I only know because I have to have them tied up so they don't fall over and snap the stem. They both looked pretty good right up until the last feeding before I started giving plain water with Agave Organic Sweetener in it (just over a week ago). I've given them plain water with the Agave twice now and will continue until they're ready to chop.

Your plants look beautiful, nice dark green color you got there.
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Well, at week 8 of 12 I would be expectinmg them to start sucking the life out of the leaves so I wouldn't really be worrying, it's not a leaf beauty contest when it gets to that stage of the game, lol. The buds look great, and that's all I say on the matter, haha. You got to see some of the states that I crop sometimes, sheesh!

DoobieBrother said:
Arrrggg!
Avast ye!
Thar be frost on them scallywags!!
bongsmilie
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Great set of close up pics, i likes this o ne, reminded me of how my head feels of an occassional morning!! All spikey and shingley like a small wave washing over a pebble beach...

Thanks Cap'n.

Seam Stains signing out.
ZEN MASTER said:
DST said:
I use my wifes Canon D1000...I think. Most phones dont pull off great picsa unless your lights are off. There is not much issue taking a pic now and then when the light of imo.

ok, ok. how do you think a 10 or 12 mega pixel camera would do under those lights? any other advice is more than welcome.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
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Thats plenty, mine is only 10...oops, I mean the wifes is...
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Heads Up

Heads Up

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The camera thing, I need more info, my pictures are shit and they never do my bud justice. Yeah I push the selection button to bring up the flower icon. How close can I get in inches from the bud? Do I stay ten inches away and zoom in? What is the shutter speed? What is the iso speed? What, what, what? I am sick and tired of taking crap pictures, what is the secret? Doobiebrother, you can chime in...please and genuity where on earth are you? Are you well?

C'mon you camera guys, give us crap picture takers some in depth info, please.
 
ZEN MASTER

ZEN MASTER

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curious old fart said:
ZEN MASTER said:
I use a 9.2 kodak from wally world with crop feature in edit.
It doesn't have to be an expensive camera to get good pics.

:peace:
cof
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thanks man, thats a bit of a relief. when i saw that D said ...."a Cannon D1000", i was like shit that sounds a camera they use on the sideline of a football game,( both football, and futbol). but yea i was like "what the hell kinda space-age camera is that", and how could i afford it. but i know 9,10, and 12 megs are pretty affordable. but your pics look very proper my friend so i'll got no lower than a 9 meg.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
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duchieman

duchieman

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Megapixels don't really determine picture quality unless you really start blowing it up. It's all in the lens and shot settings, and how still you can keep the camera. There are more and more basic digital cameras with better custom controls now, a person just has to take the time to learn a little.

The higher the lighting, lower the ISO, higher shutter speed but keeping it still is key.
 
ZEN MASTER

ZEN MASTER

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ZEN MASTER said:
Thats plenty, mine is only 10...oops, I mean the wifes is...
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oh, ok thats more understandable, ten megs. i was wondering when did you stepped into your time machine, and stopped off at the year 3013 to buy a camera.LOL. thanks though bro, really appreciate ya.


PEACE!!!
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ZEN MASTER

ZEN MASTER

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duchieman said:
Megapixels don't really determine picture quality unless you really start blowing it up. It's all in the lens and shot settings, and how still you can keep the camera. There are more and more basic digital cameras with better custom controls now, a person just has to take the time to learn a little.
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well sir if you wouldnt mind naming a few that would get me, and HeadsUp off to a great start in finding the perfect one for us. thanks!!!



PEACE!!!
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1badmasonman

1badmasonman

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I bought a brand spanking new cannon sx 120 is and i still cant get a good budshot hahaha. Ive come to the conclusion im just a really shitty photographer lol.
 
duchieman

duchieman

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Well that's a broad question. The D1000 that D spoke of is know as a Canon Rebel XS in North America and is an entry/semi pro SLR camera. They are the ones that you can change lenses on and build a camera from there. You can purchase this starter kit (kit being a camera body and lens) for around $500 US. If you are a person who is interested in getting into the real world of photography and are willing to learn, and your OK with the price, well this would be the camera for you. And just so I don't piss the Nikon guys off, they will have a very similar kit and the fight between the two companies is like Ford and GM. Keep in mind though that adding lenses is where the real money is spent and they go into the thousands. Just like any enthusiast activity, such as the one we talk about here, you can spend big money, but like another 6er said, it doesn't have to be fancy. There are photo's out there by the famous Ansel Adams that he took using a very basic film camera.

Otherwise, the selection of digital camera's is huge all competing for your attention. Don't be fooled by pixels. A pixel is a dot that changes color. A megapixel is 10,000 pixels. A camera pixel rating is telling you how many pixel within a certain square area. The more dots in the square, the more detail, but it gets to a point where the human eye can't really tell now. But, if you start blowing that box up in size and don't increase the dots, then they just get spread apart and become less detailed. Kinda like a puzzle spread apart. So anything over just a few megapixels is more than enough for any photo you would post on here. With that said, if you are on a lower budget then grab a standard digital camera and maybe just choose between a Nikon of a Canon. After all, they are the two biggest.

The problem with taking close up pics is that the closer you are, the more noticeable any, and I mean any, shake will ruin the shot. If you really want to take good closeups, spend a little on a tripod.

Peace
 
1badmasonman

1badmasonman

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Im needing some advice on a premium carbon scrubbing setup. My current rig just dont cut the smell. Its a 4" HTG combo. Ive never really been to impressed with it.

Im needing to upgrade and im not really to concerned with the price aslong as it works as its supposed to. A lil info my room in cubic ft= About 510 CF. I currently have 4" ducting build into the ceiling which will likely have to stay there.

Can anyone recommend a quality rig that can handle the 510 cu ft. And 15 stinking ladies? Thanks in advance. :peace: 1BMM
 
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