Club Vert(600)

Honestly, I feel that turning them once a week will not be optimal. That means they will spend a week trying to 'turn around', then spend the next week trying to turn around again, only to do it again. I think turning them once a day at least, would be the way to go about it.

But like I said, you ain't gonna mess nothing up... so do your thang bro. Maybe you'll stumble onto something special the rest of us can benefit from. Good luck. Looking forward to the pics.

Hello: Jigfresh
Yep not sure what to do I think since ur more experienced than l l dont want to fight against my girls and do it once a day makes more scene it will be a couple of weeks before i see results from all sides of them l guess
Thanks
Oh check out my thread "bacon on the vertical"

Just cuz I have grown more don't mean I know a whole lot lol. Can you post up a link to your journal here... would make it easier for everyone. Even better... you could put a link in your signature. You can get to your sig on the 'My Rollitup' page.

Well its not a journel just a new thread in the vertical growing section here 3rd one down no replys hehe not much happening yet to my grow l guess thats why noe replys I am 3 en a half weeks flowering from switch so l guess another 8 weeks left
Link here -
https://www.rollitup.org/vertical-growing/650770-bacon-vertical.html

Hey guys, Im starting my first vert grow with 600 watts bare bulb. 6-5gallon buckets inside a 4x4 grow tent. I have an adjustable ballast and a fan blowing up on the bulb. When I first started, i only set the ballast to 50% and gave the girls some time to get used to it, and then raised it to 75% but started noticing the fan leaves drooping. At this time, the bulb is directly in between the plants. I figured it's because since it's bare bulb, the girls are having light shock from the stronger power. Seeing that they are all 12-18 inches away from the bulb, I figured this was the reason why it was drooping. So what I did was raise the bulb so that the bottom of the bulb was above the tallest plant and sure enough, they started recovering and stopped drooping.

I experienced this drooping when i did a regular horizontal grow with my 1000 watter and what i did to ease the girls in was to start out with the light really high above the plants and slowly ease them in, which took about a week and a half until it was at the best distance. For this vert grow, there's practically no more room to move the girls away from the bulb and ease them in since it's only a 4x4 room. How did you other 4x4 600w growers did yours and did you experience this drooping? Btw, the room temps are fine and I have ac in the room with the fan circulating the air. Thanks for your help.

I don't think they are dropping at all... I think they are 'turning' themselves to face the light. Like solar panels turning on their sides. Hard to say without pics, but that's what I suspect. Plants with a light right on their side will look a little different than a plant with a light above it. It looks like the leaves are turned sideways.

jigfresh said:

I don't think they are dropping at all... I think they are 'turning' themselves to face the light. Like solar panels turning on their sides. Hard to say without pics, but that's what I suspect. Plants with a light right on their side will look a little different than a plant with a light above it. It looks like the leaves are turned sideways.

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No, they are drooping. I forgot to mention, drooping + twisting as soon as I have it at 75% power and leveled with the plants. Soon as I raise it above the plants, they no longer droop and twist. So i sorta ruled out the possibility of a fan blowing on it too hard because there's no fan blowing directly on the plants. Also, I totally understand what u mean by, plants with lights on the side look different from plants with lights above them, but these plants dont look happy with the lights on the side. The above two pix were before i put in a bigger fan to blow air up on the bulb. Still the same result even with a stronger fan. it really just seems like light shock. And btw, just in case you're wondering, the bags around the buckets were to catch excess r/o but i finally had the chance to go to the hydro store for the trays, so they are no longer there.

I guess if they don't like side light I would raise the light up. That's really weird.

jigfresh said:

I guess if they don't like side light I would raise the light up. That's really weird.

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Does this defeat the purpose of Vertical grow since the light isn't in the center of the plants? I figure having a cool tube would help because it would decrease the intensity, correct?

They look like they are thirsty, but I see wet soil, so I dont know

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They look like they are thirsty, but I see wet soil, so I dont know

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Yea, even when fully watered, they still do this. I discussed this on my other thread but possibly the roots aren't ready for such strong lighting? As mentioned, when i did horizontal 1000w, i'd have to slowly ease the light closer so that the plants could grow and adjust to the lighting. In this case, i have no room for it.

At any rate, what i did last night was raised it well above the plants, turned the ballast to 100% and the plants responded REAL well to it. They are all looking strong now. So im guessing maybe i can just let it sit high for now as the plants grow a stronger root system before i slowly lower them to the plants level. Your thoughts?

Jig, some questions if I may.
First, are those standard PVC pipes just coated with foil/mylar? Or are they something else? Also do you aerate the roots directly or just aerate the res?
Second, where's your res?
Third, did you notice a benefit in using the screen? Since I notice you dispensed of it later and had great results.

Sorry to be so curious but I'd like to do something very similar for my next grow.

How about a 600 Vert- pool party...

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Im setting up some 600 & 430 pool verts ta mix things up this season.. Theres 11 strains and this is going to be a seed making run.. Fem-Seeds, using GA 3 and regular seed with a male BATF..

So far so fun....

Gamberro said:

First, are those standard PVC pipes just coated with foil/mylar? Or are they something else? Also do you aerate the roots directly or just aerate the res?
Second, where's your res?
Third, did you notice a benefit in using the screen? Since I notice you dispensed of it later and had great results.

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The pipe is standard 4" black waste pipe from Home Depot. I used foil tape (also from HD) to coat it all. It's waterproof and stays forever.

The rez is under everything sitting on the floor. There is a table covering it for the most part to keep the light out and the temps down in the rez. The only aeration was from the waterfall. I had a 400 gal/ hr water pump cycling water 24/7. The water pumped in the top dropped from the first to second level, the dropped into the rez. I didn't use airpumps or anything like that.

I use screens to control the plants more than anything. My space is so small if I didn't use the screens at all the plants would grow into the light. I don't even really remember not using one. I like having the screen around, just to tie something back if I need to.

Awww snap son, breaking ground on the new design today!

Hey, this is 1kW, so sorry if I offend anyone, but I didn't know where else to put these. I designed my system so I could crawl under it, so there is a square 360º ScrOG. Each surface is a little over 4ftX4ft, so roughly 16 sq ft per surface, and four surfaces, adds up to about 64 sq ft of foliage. With a 1kW light on them, I am hoping that my minimal harvest will be a pound per 16 sq ft side (1 oz per sq ft) so four pounds total. Figure that's a pretty conservative estimate. On one side I have the mothers, so that area is COMPLETELY overgrown (I'm moving after this grow so figured no reason to keep the mothers, might as well flower them too, not worth risk of transporting them a long distance), the other three sides are clones which have been in the Deep Water Culture bins for about two weeks with General Hydroponics FloraDuo nutes. For the bins I used some hard-to-find Rubbermaid totes that seem to keep my refilling to a veritable minimum, I'm used to having to refill every three days but I can go a week or more without refilling with these SOB's.
Definitely time to flower these suckers soon, they're AK-48 so I'm expecting some serious stretch. Again I reiterate, yes, the one side is totally dense and uneven. That's just how it's got to be, but worst case scenario they shade each other a bit but still put out some pretty impressive buds, right? Hopefully I'll avoid root rot though, I have some micro fans I'm considering pointing in that direction to increase air flow and circulation.

EDIT: Sorry, I uploaded these as upright and somehow they got rotated in the upload process.

welcome to the spot for vert,post away..

I'm proud to say that I am still running vertical lighting and fired things back up the other day.

I will get a pic or two of the Lambsbread clones I have in dixie cups at the moment. They'll go in the vertical room this weekend in 5gal buckets to veg for a few weeks before flower (soil).

Call me Jig, when you have a chance. I lost all of my contacts recently and am dying to know what's crackin in your neck of the woods.

Any one try bending plants horizontal to get yer side branches lookin like central colas? Works very well. Have some OD, FIMed & horizontal for stealth as tall where these are is not good.

EDIT to add: Nice work every one. Thanks for the nice eye candy.

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Quite the thread here. not eligible for club vert but it's looking like a damn good way to do it